Kettle Ball Swinging Between Legs And Over Head?

[Simple Simon]

I've used that thing, it's an absolute beast.  It's has magnets that resist the harder you push.

All that stuff you listed is in the stamina plan I'm doing.   Nobody cares, but check out soflete.com if you are interested - these guys know their shit.

so by that argument the less effort you use the easier it is to move?

[DroppingPlates]

low intensity cardio is for old ladies and pussies,  strive to get ULTRA FIT chief

It's still the best way to prevent muscle loss when dieting and I'm not interested in being 'ultra fit'.

so by that argument the less effort you use the easier it is to move?

No, the harder you push, the more resistance it gives.

[Simple Simon]

It's still the best way to prevent muscle loss when dieting and I'm not interested in being 'ultra fit'.

No, the harder you push, the more resistance it gives.

and the less you push the less resistance it gives.

one cant exist without the other.

[ESFitness]

What are these exercises called? I really cringe when I think of the shoulders getting slammed like that. I mean the constant swinging. Lot of wear and tear on the shoulder joint.

Chaos you're a kettle ball dude, what is this exercise?




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Just called. Kb swing,1 arm, 2 adm)alternating  or kb figure 8.... And a wholen lottajf7
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[DroppingPlates]

and the less you push the less resistance it gives.

one cant exist without the other.

Yes, though I don't see many wimps trying it.

[Thin Lizzy]

shoulder joint? your shoulder are in a fixed position, your arms are locked. it's all hips\glutes

From what I can tell, it's sort of a combination of a deadlift and a front lateral raise. The latter limits the amount of weight you can use because of the poor leverage position. In my opinion, a sumo deadlift is  a better option as it allows you to move some weight.







Btw, I apologize for talking about training on getbig.

[Grape Ape]

From what I can tell, it's sort of a combination of a deadlift and a front lateral raise. The latter limits the amount of weight you can use because of the poor leverage position. In my opinion, a sumo deadlift is  a better option as it allows you to move some weight.







Btw, I apologize for talking about training on getbig.

It's more of a hip hinge  to a swing.

Mastering the hip hinge sets you up for improvement on many lifts and performance, including deadlifts.

[Thin Lizzy]

It's more of a hip hinge  to a swing.

Mastering the hip hinge supposedly sets you up for improvement on many lifts and performance.

Hip hinge is just a term trainers use to make themselves look smart. Just means that you're bending at the hips. It's no different than what you do on a squat or a dead lift.

[Grape Ape]

Hip hinge is just a term trainers use to make themselves look smart. Just means that you're bending at the hips. It's no different than what you do on a squat or a dead lift.

Sort of - hip hinge is hip bend with minimal knee bend.   Squat is hip bend with much more knee bend.

It's the beginning movement for squat/DL.....many don't do it correctly, and KB swing can help master it.

Plus, they're amazing for conditioning.

[dj181]

From what I can tell, it's sort of a combination of a deadlift and a front lateral raise. The latter limits the amount of weight you can use because of the poor leverage position. In my opinion, a sumo deadlift is  a better option as it allows you to move some weight.







Btw, I apologize for talking about training on getbig.

it's similar to a power clean but requires less skill

[Thin Lizzy]

it's similar to a power clean but requires less skill

Again, the problem I see with this exercise is that your arms remain in an extended position for the entire movement. Residue was incorrect that the shoulders stay locked. It's the elbows that are locked. That turns the entire arm into a lever that works against you and limits the amount of weight you can use.  We all know you can use a lot less weight doing lateral or front raises than you can with shoulder presses. The arms don't stay locked in power cleans either that's why you can use a lot of weight with them.

[dj181]

Again, the problem I see with this exercise is that your arms remain in an extended position for the entire movement. Residue was incorrect that the shoulders stay locked. It's the elbows that are locked. That turns the entire arm into a lever that works against you and limits the amount of weight you can use.  We all know you can use a lot less weight doing lateral or front raises than you can with shoulder presses. The arms don't stay locked in power cleans either that's why you can use a lot of weight with them.

that's true but this exercise is much easier to do than a power clean

in other words it's good for toads who have shit athletic ability

[Thin Lizzy]

that's true but this exercise is much easier to do than a power clean

in other words it's good for toads who have shit athletic ability

Now that makes sense 

[Simple Simon]

Yes, though I don't see many wimps trying it.

no just big dumbasses hurling all their weight into it and making it jam up.
If it works like they say you should just push it very slowly at first with minimum effort and it should slide along no problem

I do hope its not as easy as that and the machine is simply designed to outwit slow witted meatheads in a Chinese finger puzzle sort of way.

[DroppingPlates]

no just big dumbasses hurling all their weight into it and making it jam up.
If it works like they say you should just push it very slowly at first with minimum effort and it should slide along no problem

I do hope its not as easy as that and the machine is simply designed to outwit slow witted meatheads in a Chinese finger puzzle sort of way.

There are 2 ways to adjust the resistance: switch the magnet resistance like 1, 2 or 3 or by adding weight plates/gym rats. I once did 180 kg with the switch on #3, super setted with  80 kg farmer walks for 15 meters (there's not that much space) for 20 min, which was a fun thing to do.

[Grape Ape]

There are 2 ways to adjust the resistance: switch the magnet resistance like 1, 2 or 3 or by adding weight plates/gym rats. I once did 180 kg with the switch on #3, super setted with  80 kg farmer walks for 15 meters (there's not that much space) for 20 min, which was a fun thing to do.

It's very good.

If you push easier, as bethere said, it won't move.   It rewards effort by upping the intensity.

That's said, it's stupid expensive, and I think $150 prowler will destroy you just as easily, and save $1800 bucks.

[ESFitness]

I disagree.....it's a hip hinge combined with a front raise.

Doesn't feel dangerous at all.

A kb swing shouldn't have a front raise. Your delta shouldn't be working.

I use kettlebells almost Daily instructing boot camps and that's one of the most common mistakes I have to correct people with whether it's a two arm kettlebell swing or a one arm kettlebell swing or alternating kettlebell swing or a figure 8 or whatever.

Kb's are usefull. I can take a group of 5 people and 10 kettlebells and training an hour a day 4 days a week have those 5 people looking like they're carved out of wood after 4 months using only those two kettlebells... Obviously the kb's will need to increase in weight, such as the heavy one would then become the light one and they'd need a heavier "heavy" kb... But u get the point.

Hell, throw in a medicine-ball/"smash"ball, 2 resistance bands and some TRX straps along with 2 kb's and you have a mobile gym that fits in a dufflebag and you can do in-home/at-home training (or in a park or at the beach) and charge $700-1200/month for 3 sessions a week.... And never do the same workout twice in 52 weeks.

[DroppingPlates]

It's very good.

If you push easier, as bethere said, it won't move.   It rewards effort by upping the intensity.

That's said, it's stupid expensive, and I think $150 prowler will destroy you just as easily, and save $1800 bucks.

It was like push the tank, walk back, farmer walk and repeat, so a bit interval like.

My gym has a standard 'office carpet', but replacing a part with fake grass and buying a prowler was prob much cheaper.

[Grape Ape]

It was like push the tank, walk back, farmer walk and repeat, so a bit interval like.

My gym has a standard 'office carpet', but replacing a part with fake grass and buying a prowler was prob much cheaper.

I'm sure it was tough.....that tank is hard.

[Thin Lizzy]

Every picture I see of the movement has the finish point exactly the same as in the front dumbbell raise. Of course there's some momentum involved but there's no way you're taking the anterior head of the deltoid out of the movement. That's why you can only use a very small amount of weight compared to a squat or a dead lift.

You're essentially taking a compound movement and limiting the amount of weight you can use by adding a single joint movement.

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Yet another shitty thread from our resident French,fat friendless faggy fuck.

[ESFitness]

Every picture I see of the movement has the finish point exactly the same as in the front dumbbell raise. Of course there's some momentum involved but there's no way you're taking the anterior head of the deltoid out of the movement. That's why you can only use a very small amount of weight compared to a squat or a dead lift.

You're essentially taking a compound movement and limiting the amount of weight you can use by adding a single joint movement.

You're not taking the interior adult completely out of the movement but you're also not using the front delt to raise the Kettlebell. You're using your hips and glutes and hamstrings and all that shit to to generate force and momentum to get that kettlebell in one nice smooth movement. The moment you start using her interior delts or even medial delts and traps to get that in kettlebell up there the movement becomes kind of herky-jerky and is easy to spot.

The kettlebell swing is not meant to be a replacement for a squat or deadlift. If I wanted to replicate Ascot with the Kettlebell I would just do a goblet squat holding the Kettlebell with both hands Palms facing up with the Kettlebell at the top of your chest squatting down and right back up. Holding the Kettlebell this way forces or at least it helps reinforce your body position to be proper in the squad if the Kettlebell isn't held in the proper position at the top of the chest the squad would end up looking like a whip orb" ? " (question mark) snapping into an " ! "@ the top of the movement... For these I would usually do 20 seconds of kettlebell or goblet-squat only, Falling by 20 seconds of kettlebell squat press at which the top of the movement you press the Kettlebell overhead while being mindful of keeping your elbows in front of your body during the Press portion of the movement as well as on the way back down. While we're on the subject of kettlebells I would usually follow that up with something like a kettlebell upright row for 20 seconds again, followed by a kettlebell sumo squat with legs wide and feed straight foeward while holding the Kettlebell down by yer nuts. You upper body remains upright and neutral while you squat down the mindful to keep your knees pushed out and feed straight. If you get low enough you may have to cuddle Bell on the floor at which point you come back up from the squad and move directly into an upright row in one smooth fluid motion and not breaking it down into segments and all herky-jerky. and then from there I would probably move into a single arm cross body kettlebell hip hinge again probably 20 seconds per leg on the first one followed write up with a 15-second pearl egg series

[Grape Ape]

You're not taking the interior adult completely out of the movement but you're also not using the front delt to raise the Kettlebell. You're using your hips and glutes and hamstrings and all that shit to to generate force and momentum to get that kettlebell in one nice smooth movement. The moment you start using her interior delts or even medial delts and traps to get that in kettlebell up there the movement becomes kind of herky-jerky and is easy to spot.

This is pretty much it to the letter.

As stated, in a conditioning round we've done over 200 swings...........front delts were not even close to sore the next day.

[Simple Simon]

It's very good.

If you push easier, as bethere said, it won't move.   It rewards effort by upping the intensity.

That's said, it's stupid expensive, and I think $150 prowler will destroy you just as easily, and save $1800 bucks.

thats not what was originally said, the words used was its harder to move the harder you push as it gives back more resistance, thats why Im challenging the concept.

[Grape Ape]

thats not what was originally said, the words used was its harder to move the harder you push as it gives back more resistance, thats why Im challenging the concept.

Not sure what you're challenging.