funny tthing about roids is. ...

[dj181]

those who have never taken them thing that there are some magic potion that transfers all who take them into incredible beasts

well, that is pure d bullshit

again, genetics play a major role in how much they will actually transform you

not sure about exact percentages but I'd say that maybe 10-15% who try them have an exceptional response

those who have never tried them are really clueless about what they can actually do

[oldgolds]

BS....I've seen skinny dudes turn into monsters....You're trying to minimize there effects so you feel better about it.

[Grape Ape]

I just assumed test would help with muscle mass, recovery, strength and and an overall feeling of well being.

Stupid me.

[dj181]

BS....I've seen skinny dudes turn into monsters....You're trying to minimize there effects so you feel better about it.

they were great responders

how many of them took them and didn't gain much?

its easy to gain weight just eat a shit load of food

but those how gain mostly muscle and not water or fat are a rare breed

[FREAKgeek]

BS....I've seen skinny dudes turn into monsters....You're trying to minimize there effects so you feel better about it.

It's not BS. It's got nothing to do with starting out skinny.

[rangerwil]

not sure about exact percentages but I'd say that maybe 10-15% who try them have an exceptional response

What is your idea of an " exceptional response"?
Lets say the starting point is a healthy 25 year old 200lb  6 foot tall 20% bodyfat male.
Lets say he just started with a simple Deca/Test cycle. Nothing crazy..lets say 500/Test & 400/Deca per week.
Simple 14 week jammie.

Go.

[NelsonMuntz]

 

[ratherbebig]

ive never been offered steroids

i sometimes hang around in the locker room for hours waiting but so far nothing

[hipolito mejia]

those who have never taken them thing that there are some magic potion that transfers all who take them into incredible beasts

well, that is pure d bullshit

again, genetics play a major role in how much they will actually transform you

not sure about exact percentages but I'd say that maybe 10-15% who try them have an exceptional response

those who have never tried them are really clueless about what they can actually do

That would have made an interesting article on 1987 Muscles & Fitness. 

[dj181]

What is your idea of an " exceptional response"?
Lets say the starting point is a healthy 25 year old 200lb  6 foot tall 20% bodyfat male.
Lets say he just started with a simple Deca/Test cycle. Nothing crazy..lets say 500/Test & 400/Deca per week.
Simple 14 week jammie.

Go.

that's a hard q considering those peramators

ie. those are bulking drugs and the starter is a fat ass

anyways, I'd say an exceptional response would be if he ended up at 220 10%

[JimmyJam1974]

Whatever makes you feel better, homegirl

[rangerwil]

that's a hard q considering those peramators

ie. those are bulking drugs and the starter is a fat ass

anyways, I'd say an exceptional response would be if he ended up at 220 10%

Anything less would mean it was a waste of a cycle?

[funk51]

that's 10-15 percent 

[bigbychoices]

most people who dont workout or know anything thinks all you do is take steroids and get big. thats really how the media plays it too. calling it cheating and taking the easy way etc.  they dont explain that you still bust your ass in the gym to get big. period. it doesnt matter really how gifted you are you still have to train. my gf thought years ago that all you do is take a pill or a shot and bam your big.. she is like why do you workout if you take steroids? i busted out laughing . i thought she was joking. then i started asking others and they pretty much thought the same thing. unbeleievable.

[Grape Ape]

most people who dont workout or know anything thinks all you do is take steroids and get big. thats really how the media plays it too. calling it cheating and taking the easy way etc.  they dont explain that you still bust your ass in the gym to get big. period. it doesnt matter really how gifted you are you still have to train. my gf thought years ago that all you do is take a pill or a shot and bam your big.. she is like why do you workout if you take steroids? i busted out laughing . i thought she was joking. then i started asking others and they pretty much thought the same thing. unbeleievable.

Bodybuilding workouts are easy.

[ESFitness]

Some respond better than others. Some are just lazy when it comes to eating. I have no problem increasing myndoses, but when it comes to eating, if I'm hungry, I'd rather spend  a dollar on a vanilla shake than a cheeseburger. And I'd rather eat ice cream for breakfast than cook eggs and drink a protein shake. If in have nothing planned.. No appearance, no commercial, no photoshoot, whatever and I'm just training to keep size, of rather eat waffles and pizza and hot pockets and mac n cheese and donuts and bagels... Than eat chicken and rice and chicken and chicken and fish andnbeef andnxhixken.. Etc... My protein intake isnwayyy low

[oldtimer1]

those who have never taken them thing that there are some magic potion that transfers all who take them into incredible beasts

well, that is pure d bullshit

again, genetics play a major role in how much they will actually transform you

not sure about exact percentages but I'd say that maybe 10-15% who try them have an exceptional response

those who have never tried them are really clueless about what they can actually do

Real steroids work amazing. Have seen many zeros to heros in nothing flat. The problem today with steroids being a felony is that a lot of the stuff is just counterfeit. It's big business making phony containers and inserts. A lot of the vials are just testosterone.  Seen many a guy put on a crazy amount of muscle in 6 weeks back in the day using standard "real" stuff such as deca, dianabol, Anadrol 50, Equipose, Winstrol V, and the rest.  All of this stuff came from real pharmaceutical companies.

[HTexan]

BS....I've seen skinny dudes turn into monsters....You're trying to minimize there effects so you feel better about it.

This. Or he has shitty genes and roids didn't work for him, and he is still a tiny twink... but now with Bitch tits and raisin balls.

[Bevo]

Many skinny guys I've seen with ecto body (myself included) just flat out lean with fast metabolism responded great with gear

Many bbers and top pros started out lean/skinny, not many of them fat like Evan centopanties

[Yanin]

I'm my city oil field work is king. So long hours and some times not the best diets.. I know pleeeeenty of guys who just take normal cycles w/o maybe 2,3x a week and have great physiques.. I know for sure steroids make that possible, without it they'd be regular built schmoes

[rangerwil]

Drugs work...plain and simple.

[Simple Simon]

Some respond better than others. Some are just lazy when it comes to eating. I have no problem increasing myndoses, but when it comes to eating, if I'm hungry, I'd rather spend  a dollar on a vanilla shake than a cheeseburger. And I'd rather eat ice cream for breakfast than cook eggs and drink a protein shake. If in have nothing planned.. No appearance, no commercial, no photoshoot, whatever and I'm just training to keep size, of rather eat waffles and pizza and hot pockets and mac n cheese and donuts and bagels... Than eat chicken and rice and chicken and chicken and fish andnbeef andnxhixken.. Etc... My protein intake isnwayyy low

care to share some pics from these photo-shoots commercials and appearances?

PS, Im trying guys but jeez, this bullshit needs addressing.....

[ESFitness]

care to share some pics from these photo-shoots commercials and appearances?

PS, Im trying guys but jeez, this bullshit needs addressing.....

Commercials are on YouTube genius. Photoshoots online. Appearances? They're appearances. What the fuck isnyour peabrain having a hard time computing? Lol just what does your dumbass think I've done for a living since 2000? LoL god you're a fool. 22,000 posts and 19000 are talking about me. How many posts do you speak about me that's no don't even know of? LoL

What kind of grown man ruins everybodys threads with complaining about another man.?

[rocket]

Commercials are on YouTube genius. Photoshoots online. Appearances? They're appearances. What the fuck isnyour peabrain having a hard time computing? Lol just what does your dumbass think I've done for a living since 2000? LoL god you're a fool. 22,000 posts and 19000 are talking about me. How many posts do you speak about me that's no don't even know of? LoL

What kind of grown man ruins everybodys threads with complaining about another man.?

Nah, this one he was right to question.

I was not really with him until I read that one.

Fair play to you if you are in all those things - but I hadn't actually seen you brag about the present until now.

[Simple Simon]

Commercials are on YouTube genius. Photoshoots online. Appearances? They're appearances. What the fuck isnyour peabrain having a hard time computing? Lol just what does your dumbass think I've done for a living since 2000? LoL god you're a fool. 22,000 posts and 19000 are talking about me. How many posts do you speak about me that's no don't even know of? LoL

What kind of grown man ruins everybodys threads with complaining about another man.?