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BBSSchlemiel

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Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« on: July 18, 2017, 08:52:40 AM »
Guy hasn't revolutionized shit, and won't! Makes his loot on your tax paying dime!
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polychronopolous

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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2017, 08:54:48 AM »
Been saying the same thing for years.
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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2017, 08:55:18 AM »
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JAGO

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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2017, 09:35:29 AM »
His big plan is to colonize Mars ( ROFL.) I agree completely.

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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2017, 09:49:06 AM »
Quote from: BBSSchlemiel on July 18, 2017, 08:52:40 AM
Guy hasn't revolutionized shit, and won't! Makes his loot on your tax paying dime!

Yes and no. He is adept at getting the government to pay for his hobbies. But you can actually buy a Tesla or send off a payload on SpaceX. Is the Tesla revolutionary? Not completely, but Steve Jobs made the MP3 player cool even though it existed long before the IPod. Musk is visionary and a master marketer. And that's how you make money.

BTW The real Nikolai Tesla was a failed genius - as smart as he was he could barely support himself. I'd rather be an Edison than a Tesla.
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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2017, 09:57:01 AM »
Cars are doing well, Hyper Loop next. What's the issue?
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Palumboism

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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2017, 10:19:20 AM »
Quote from: BBSSchlemiel on July 18, 2017, 08:52:40 AM
Guy hasn't revolutionized shit, and won't! Makes his loot on your tax paying dime!

I agree he made money of the tax payers, but the Model S was a revolutionary car.  The Model 3 will be even more revolutionary because more people will be able to afford it.  
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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2017, 02:02:57 PM »
Quote from: Palumboism on July 18, 2017, 10:19:20 AM
I agree he made money of the tax payers, but the Model S was a revolutionary car.  The Model 3 will be even more revolutionary because more people will be able to afford it.  



Volkswagen was the people's car and Tesla is the govt's car. Really can't fault the guy. He's smart enough to know that private equity would never fund all the R&D he wants to do. He actually learned that from Mr. Tesla....
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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2017, 02:11:32 PM »
Quote from: Parker on July 18, 2017, 09:57:01 AM
Cars are doing well, Hyper Loop next. What's the issue?

They don't like his politics is all.

Musk is doing just fine, Parker.
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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2017, 02:24:06 PM »
Lol at musks new company called "the boring company".. Digging holes underground ("boring" tunnels) for transportation
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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2017, 02:42:58 PM »
Quote from: SOMEPARTS on July 18, 2017, 02:02:57 PM


Volkswagen was the people's car and Tesla is the govt's car. Really can't fault the guy. He's smart enough to know that private equity would never fund all the R&D he wants to do. He actually learned that from Mr. Tesla....

Tesla has paid back their loan long time ago. Maybe you work with ICE cars, hence your negativity?
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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2017, 02:46:57 PM »
Quote from: Parker on July 18, 2017, 09:57:01 AM
Cars are doing well, Hyper Loop next. What's the issue?

Hyperloop is bullshit

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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2017, 02:51:53 PM »
Quote from: The Ugly on July 18, 2017, 02:11:32 PM
They don't like his politics is all.

Musk is doing just fine, Parker.

His politics is whatever benefits him the most

He's stated many times he's neither conservative or liberal, he's for both
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Palumboism

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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2017, 03:03:38 PM »
Quote from: ESFitness on July 18, 2017, 02:24:06 PM
Lol at musks new company called "the boring company".. Digging holes underground ("boring" tunnels) for transportation

It all comes down to funding.  He sold investors on Tesla to the tune of 52 Billion.  I'm sure he'll find investors for Hyperloop One and the Boring company.  

You have to give him credit on a number of fronts.  He is very good at engineering management.  In the end the team he hires and manages produces results that work.  Case in point the Model s and Model 3.  That history of results makes investors comfortable and provides the funding for new projects.  

Also, because of his celebrity, anything with his name on it will attract the best and the brightest in any field.




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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2017, 03:19:50 PM »
Quote from: Palumboism on July 18, 2017, 03:03:38 PM
It all comes down to funding.  He sold investors on Tesla to the tune of 52 Billion.  I'm sure he'll find investors for Hyperloop One and the Boring company.  

You have to give him credit on a number of fronts.  He is very good at engineering management.  In the end the team he hires and manages produces results that work.  Case in point the Model s and Model 3.  That history of results makes investors comfortable and provides the funding for new projects.  

Also, because of his celebrity, anything with his name on it will attract the best and the brightest in any field.






I like the guy. I'm all for big business and capitalism.
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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2017, 03:25:35 PM »
Mars is completely a waste of time
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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2017, 03:54:04 PM »
Quote from: youandme on July 18, 2017, 03:25:35 PM
Mars is completely a waste of time

you are
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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2017, 03:55:08 PM »
Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on July 18, 2017, 02:46:57 PM
Hyperloop is bullshit


All the point brought up in this video are valid and will need to be addressed.  However, Hyperloop One is technically possible using current technology.  There are magnetically levitating trains and creating a long vacuum is nothing new.  See Large the Large Hadron Collider brought up in the video.  So, Elon knows it's technically possible, but also very very expensive.  Do you see any magnetically levitating trains in America.  Of course not, we don't even have high speed rail.

That will be the true magic of this whole thing.  Convincing investors to continue to pour billions of dollars into Hyperloop One without getting a return for decades if ever.  He's succeeded doing this with Tesla.  Can he do it again with Hyperloop One?






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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2017, 04:58:33 PM »
i  am pretty sure i read, that tesla is over 10  billion in debt right now ,
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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2017, 05:02:55 PM »
oops i stand corrected 18 billion in debt
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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2017, 05:49:09 PM »
Lol.  The guy is awesome.  Probably does more in a day than you've done your whole life.
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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2017, 05:52:31 PM »
Musk has a hair transplant/ toupe
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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2017, 06:04:26 PM »
Quote from: oldschoolfan on July 18, 2017, 05:02:55 PM
oops i stand corrected 18 billion in debt

It'll pull through, the government is going to give it an injection.
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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2017, 06:07:38 PM »
Quote from: JAGO on July 18, 2017, 09:35:29 AM
His big plan is to colonize Mars ( ROFL.) I agree completely.

J

We need it. I've got to get away from the madness that has started these last two decades.
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BBSSchlemiel

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Re: Elon Musk: wasteful, psychopathic, BS artist, con man, shyster
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2017, 07:18:31 PM »
Quote from: El Diablo Blanco on July 18, 2017, 05:49:09 PM
Lol.  The guy is awesome.  Probably does more in a day than you've done your whole life.

Yeah, so awesome for treating employees like shit and fooling the American Public into thinking he will revolutionize the future. I don't give a rat's ass how much money the guy has.
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