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Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« on: September 13, 2017, 07:07:59 PM »
Both of these chips are beasts.  

For those of you considering a new smart phone, here's how they compare in performance.  

Geek Bench Scores:

Snapdragon 835
Single Core
2058
Multi Core
6461


Apple A11
Single Core
4537
Multi Core
8975

Higher score is better.


People don't talk to much about how good Apple is at designing chips.  In reality, they're far ahead of the competition.





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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2017, 07:41:14 PM »
We have a tablet at work running Windows 10 and Microsoft Office.  It's impressive that something so small can have all the capabilities of a desktop computer.  

The Snapdragon 835 will be able to run Window 10.  As a result, you can expect Windows laptops to get significantly slimmer and cheaper.




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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2017, 08:09:37 PM »
I guess that IPhone X shits on my note 8.
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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2017, 06:53:41 AM »
Both of these chips are beasts. 

For those of you considering a new smart phone, here's how they compare in performance. 

Geek Bench Scores:

Snapdragon 835
Single Core
2058
Multi Core
6461


Apple A11
Single Core
4537
Multi Core
8975

Higher score is better.


People don't talk to much about how good Apple is at designing chips.  In reality, they're far ahead of the competition.






You're missing some facts.  Apple is charging a premium for their A11 where Snapdragon is trying to keep costs low.  Apple is fine charging you $1000 for a phone and sheep will buy it.  Samsung can use better, faster chips but it costs money and no one is paying $1000 for a samsung.

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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2017, 06:06:27 PM »
You're missing some facts.  Apple is charging a premium for their A11 where Snapdragon is trying to keep costs low.  Apple is fine charging you $1000 for a phone and sheep will buy it.  Samsung can use better, faster chips but it costs money and no one is paying $1000 for a samsung.

Considering Android has 82 percent of the global market compared to 18 percent for Apple, it's safe to say the Snapdragon 835 will outsell the A11.

List of Smartphones with Snapdragon 835
1. Samsung Galaxy S8 and S8 Plus
2. Samsung Galaxy Note 8
3. Xiaomi Mi 6
4. Sony Xperia XZ Premium
5. HTC U11
6. OnePlus 5
7. LG V30
8. ZTE Nubia Z17
9. Nokia 8
10. Sharp Aquos R
11. ASUS ZenFone 4 Pro
12. Motorola Moto Z2 Force
13. Sony Xperia XZ1 & XZ1 Compact

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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2017, 06:56:51 PM »
Both of these chips are beasts.  

For those of you considering a new smart phone, here's how they compare in performance.  

Geek Bench Scores:

Snapdragon 835
Single Core
2058
Multi Core
6461


Apple A11
Single Core
4537
Multi Core
8975

Higher score is better.


People don't talk to much about how good Apple is at designing chips.  In reality, they're far ahead of the competition.





Apple likes doing shit right. And if they are going to push AR, they need the power.
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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2017, 07:53:25 PM »
I guess that IPhone X shits on my note 8.

This is actually a big problem for all the Android phone manufacturers.  There's just too large a performance difference between these chips for consumers not to notice or care. 

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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2017, 08:00:38 PM »
This is actually a big problem for all the Android phone manufacturers.  There's just too large a performance difference between these chips for consumers not to notice or care. 
Fragmentation. I think the OS not getting updates on most phones is a bigger problem. If you want android the only phone to get is a google pixel.
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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2017, 08:11:22 PM »
Fragmentation. I think the OS not getting updates on most phones is a bigger problem. If you want android the only phone to get is a google pixel.

I would like to get Oreo but I guess I'll stick with Nougat.
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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2017, 08:12:30 AM »
 iPhone is better , hope this helps

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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2017, 08:51:22 AM »
Both of these chips are beasts.  

For those of you considering a new smart phone, here's how they compare in performance.  

Geek Bench Scores:

Snapdragon 835
Single Core
2058
Multi Core
6461


Apple A11
Single Core
4537
Multi Core
8975

Higher score is better.


People don't talk to much about how good Apple is at designing chips.  In reality, they're far ahead of the competition.






provide a link so we can assess the significance of these numbers


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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2017, 04:42:30 PM »
Both of these chips are beasts.  

For those of you considering a new smart phone, here's how they compare in performance.  

Geek Bench Scores:

Snapdragon 835
Single Core
2058
Multi Core
6461


Apple A11
Single Core
4537
Multi Core
8975

Higher score is better.


People don't talk to much about how good Apple is at designing chips.  In reality, they're far ahead of the competition.






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Higher score is better.

Not necessarily , Benchmarks have always been taken with a grain of salt 

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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2017, 05:35:05 PM »
This is actually a big problem for all the Android phone manufacturers.  There's just too large a performance difference between these chips for consumers not to notice or care. 

Buying phones every year are for sheep only. Still have a Galaxy S5 and only now am looking to upgrade. Small iterations don't mean much.

AR is a joke. Another way to delude. The next big step will be when smartphones run as PCs through docking stations, similar to the Note 8. Laptops/desktops will be shells with the exception of high end PC needs (graphic design and gaming).

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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2017, 05:37:46 PM »
even an average processor + stock android = smooth experience

you only a new phone these days if you game on your phone


... which is weird. PC FTW

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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2017, 03:59:52 AM »
Just think of all the money generated and spent on mobile phones and apps.

Fuck me, it makes you wonder what people did with their money before mobiles.
a grand for a phone, £50 a month phone bill?????

You could by a fucking new car for that..


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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2017, 04:09:06 AM »
The iPhone has the better camera, and actual photo quality even if on paper specs might be lower.

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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2017, 04:30:10 AM »
no need, getbiggers dont leave their house.

all we need is a pc and the money we save we spend on chicken breasts and supplements.

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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2017, 05:59:53 AM »
I'm on a Chinese no name phone running a snapdragon 820 with 3GB ram and it's FLAWLESS in terms of performance. Unless you play heavy games or AR bullshit on a phone (read retarded) there is diminishing returns

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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2017, 04:52:12 PM »
I'm on a Chinese no name phone running a snapdragon 820 with 3GB ram and it's FLAWLESS in terms of performance. Unless you play heavy games or AR bullshit on a phone (read retarded) there is diminishing returns
Enjoy your Chinese phone with its malware installed and calling home bah.

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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2017, 05:27:28 PM »
even though phones have plateaued, they still need 120-144hz panels, i'd take a 1080p 144hz panel with Gsync (type technology) over 4k 60hz

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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2017, 06:06:57 PM »
even though phones have plateaued,

Phones have not plateaued.  In fact, they are increasing in speed at the fastest rate of anything in technology.  The A9 launched just two years ago was half as fast as the A11.  I wouldn't call that plateauing.

TSMC's in volume production of 10 nm chips and Intel is still stuck at 14 nm.  Meanwhile, TSMC is getting ready to start making their first 7 nm chips.  







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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2017, 06:11:37 PM »
Got a brand new HTC 10 that comes with a Snapdragon 820. It's a year old but got it for under $300. Couldn't be any more happier with it.

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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2017, 09:38:21 PM »
The processors might not have plateaued, but the need to constantly upgrade has. New phone sales have been steadily dropping. There's only so much extra crap they can put on a phone to make it distinguishable from the last.

Think I will get a Nokia 8 next when the price drops, though.

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Re: Apple A11 VS Snapdragon 835
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2017, 07:47:40 AM »
The processors might not have plateaued, but the need to constantly upgrade has. New phone sales have been steadily dropping. There's only so much extra crap they can put on a phone to make it distinguishable from the last.

Think I will get a Nokia 8 next when the price drops, though.

I'm not saying people need to upgrade.  I still have an Iphone 4.  The reality is people care about their phone and will upgrade, which means Apple has tons of money to keep improving their phones and so do their suppliers like TSMC.  The pace at which the whole industry is progressing is quite impressive.