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« Reply #75 on: September 26, 2017, 02:02:35 PM »
Different cultural experiences. Plus, she may have that old school work ethic.
The 60s-70s brought about social programs (and feminism) that took the father out of the house, got people dependant on these social programs, HUD was started, which ended up hindering, not helping inner city black people. And what happens? Along with the CIA using the drugs to finance the Iran-Contra situation.You see the fruit of that today.

Also as a side note, the new welfare program that ones sees an overwhelming amount of white people on is SSDI. Getting that 700+ dollar check.

Yeah but that's for disability not that there aren't scammers but it's a hell of alot harder to prove you have a true medical condition or disability (which can be a long process) and receive benefits than it is to have multiple kids and stay unemployed while on welfare.

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« Reply #76 on: September 26, 2017, 02:09:15 PM »
Yeah but that's for disability not that there aren't scammers but it's a hell of alot harder to prove you have a true medical condition or disability (which can be a long process) and receive benefits than it is to have multiple kids and stay unemployed while on welfare.
Actaully. Nope. Real easy. Tons of carpenters, home improvement, electricians, masonry folks are on SSDI. And they spend the checks on booze and drugs. It's hard to disprove a back injury. These people have it down to a science. They know the codes, how long it takes.  Go look at the lines for social services. 
This is a newer form of UBI.
And ALL these programs take away from a person's want and desire to do better. They settle for stagnation.

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« Reply #77 on: September 26, 2017, 02:23:35 PM »
Actaully. Nope. Real easy. Tons of carpenters, home improvement, electricians, masonry folks are on SSDI. And they spend the checks on booze and drugs. It's hard to disprove a back injury. These people have it down to a science. They know the codes, how long it takes.  Go look at the lines for social services. 
This is a newer form of UBI.
And ALL these programs take away from a person's want and desire to do better. They settle for stagnation.

Hard to disagree with anything Brother Parker is speaking about ^. I have a second cousin who spent 10% of his life doing home improvement projects and the remaining 90% milking the systems and the general public with scams. Ended up dying right there in the emergency room of a heart attack with everybody looking on.

I seen it all first hand but he was always good to me and the rest of us kids so you sort of just understood it for what it is.

But looking back I just remember thinking "Wow what a waste of a life"

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Re: NFL - Alejandro Villanueva vs. Colin Kapernick - what a difference
« Reply #78 on: September 26, 2017, 02:25:52 PM »
Actaully. Nope. Real easy. Tons of carpenters, home improvement, electricians, masonry folks are on SSDI. And they spend the checks on booze and drugs. It's hard to disprove a back injury. These people have it down to a science. They know the codes, how long it takes.  Go look at the lines for social services. 
This is a newer form of UBI.
And ALL these programs take away from a person's want and desire to do better. They settle for stagnation.

Bro, I'm a framer and the crew I work with as well as myself are all in our 30-40's and pretty banged up physically. Nobody is trading 30-40 an hour for $800 a month. Fuck outta here. Carpentry, concrete and especially masonry is backbreaking work don't try to compare that shit to some mammy who never worked a day in her life and shits kids out for a living.

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« Reply #79 on: September 26, 2017, 03:19:38 PM »
I always get a chuckle when leftists like conker  bring up Native Americans. Had the country been left to them it would support about 1 million people, the tallest structure would be about 12 feet and we would be communicating via smoke signals as opposed to the Internet.

Almost as funny as when they bring up the slave trade. Trade by its very nature involves two parties. Europeans used to come over with merchandise filled boats and traded with, wait for it


the locals.

So if you're going to take whites to task for slavery you have to take blacks to task as well for selling their own people down the river for some pots and pans and a few blankets.


this is like me killing my neighbour and his family, taking over his house, doing some renovations, building a big fk off extension. then turning around and saying "i'm justified in what i did, cos just look at what i did with the place"!

no amount of revisionism can change the fact that the US was founded and built on great evil, but as i said it's pointless keep harping on about the evil of this or that group.  

hopefully these people currently protesting will be successful in bringing about some positive change in your society. as it's quite apparent there is currently a great deal of division and it doesn't seem to be confined to race.

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« Reply #80 on: September 26, 2017, 03:30:07 PM »

this is like me killing my neighbour and his family, taking over his house, doing some renovations, building a big fk off extension. then turning around and saying "i'm justified in what i did, cos just look at what i did with the place"!

no amount of revisionism can change the fact that the US was founded and built on great evil, but as i said it's pointless keep harping on about the evil of this or that group.  

hopefully these people currently protesting will be successful in bringing about some positive change in your society. as it's quite apparent there is currently a great deal of division and it doesn't seem to be confined to race.


The division pretty much runs along the lines of real-life experience and mental well-being.

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« Reply #81 on: September 26, 2017, 03:35:28 PM »

this is like me killing my neighbour and his family, taking over his house, doing some renovations, building a big fk off extension. then turning around and saying "i'm justified in what i did, cos just look at what i did with the place"!

no amount of revisionism can change the fact that the US was founded and built on great evil, but as i said it's pointless keep harping on about the evil of this or that group.  

hopefully these people currently protesting will be successful in bringing about some positive change in your society. as it's quite apparent there is currently a great deal of division and it doesn't seem to be confined to race.


Europeans who speak on the United States are at the red part. I told you something about your own people that you didn't even know. If you noticed, other people confirmed what I said about Caribbeans hating American blacks.



We just had eight years of a black president, a black justice department. There are black police chiefs in most of the areas that these guys are bitching about. There are black governors, black senators, black congressmen and women and shit is worse than ever. It is possible that it's the culture that's fucked up, not everybody else.

As others have said, leftists are a joke. They live in a make believe world where the earth was a  Shangri-La until the United States came along and Invented pain, suffering and mistreatment. Slavery was a worldwide practice which pre-dated written history. It didn't start in the United States. Hell, Brazil imported more slaves than the US.  All your "grievances" are just bullshit to make up for a lack of achievement by lesser societies. You hate the United States and look for every possible reason to shit on it. It's a simple as that.



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Re: NFL - Alejandro Villanueva vs. Colin Kapernick - what a difference
« Reply #82 on: September 26, 2017, 04:18:38 PM »
Europeans who speak on the United States are at the red part. I told you something about your own people that you didn't even know.



We just had eight years of a black president, a black justice department. There are black police chiefs in most of the areas that these guys are bitching about. There are black governors, black senators, black congressmen and women and shit is worse than ever. It is possible that it's the culture that's fucked up, not everybody else.

As others have said, leftists are a joke. They live in a make believe world where the earth was a  Shangri-La until the United States came along and Invented pain, suffering and mistreatment. Slavery was a worldwide practice which pre-dated written history. It didn't start in the United States. Hell, Brazil imported more slaves than the US. All your "grievances" are just bullshit to make up for a lack of achievement by lesser societies. You hate the United States and look for every possible reason to shit on it. It's a simple as that.




lol why would i have grievances about lack of achievement? i would take a bet i'm personally doing better than you are. if as you seem to think everything should be measured by "gdp".

your outlook on life is childlike, you are so wrapped up in ethnocentric BS that you can't see the wood for the trees. take a step back once in a while. forgot about about how "evil" black people are and worry about where your own life is going.

and it's not just about having black personnel in positions of influence, it's a deep rooted, ingrained system of institutional inequality that took a few hundreds years to build up, that is obviously still in need of further rectifying.

anyway it's a pointless exercise trying to have a rational discussion about these kind of issues with someone like you who's mind is full of ethnocentric mush.



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« Reply #83 on: September 26, 2017, 05:12:52 PM »
Bro, I'm a framer and the crew I work with as well as myself are all in our 30-40's and pretty banged up physically. Nobody is trading 30-40 an hour for $800 a month. Fuck outta here. Carpentry, concrete and especially masonry is backbreaking work don't try to compare that shit to some mammy who never worked a day in her life and shits kids out for a living.

Sounds like True Adonis.

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Re: NFL - Alejandro Villanueva vs. Colin Kapernick - what a difference
« Reply #84 on: September 26, 2017, 06:14:38 PM »
Different cultural experiences. Plus, she may have that old school work ethic.

The world needs more black people with old school work ethic and less of these others.

Unfortunately the old schoolers are dying out.

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« Reply #85 on: September 26, 2017, 08:29:52 PM »

lol why would i have grievances about lack of achievement? i would take a bet i'm personally doing better than you are. if as you seem to think everything should be measured by "gdp".

your outlook on life is childlike, you are so wrapped up in ethnocentric BS that you can't see the wood for the trees. take a step back once in a while. forgot about about how "evil" black people are and worry about where your own life is going.

and it's not just about having black personnel in positions of influence, it's a deep rooted, ingrained system of institutional inequality that took a few hundreds years to build up, that is obviously still in need of further rectifying.

anyway it's a pointless exercise trying to have a rational discussion about these kind of issues with someone like you who's mind is full of ethnocentric mush.








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« Reply #86 on: September 27, 2017, 12:00:38 AM »
Same people buying it probably want a wall to keep mexicans out but don't mind wearing a hispanic SPANISH [WHICH IS WHITE EUROPEAN] NAME on their back.

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« Reply #87 on: September 27, 2017, 02:12:55 AM »

lol why would i have grievances about lack of achievement? i would take a bet i'm personally doing better than you are. if as you seem to think everything should be measured by "gdp".

your outlook on life is childlike, you are so wrapped up in ethnocentric BS that you can't see the wood for the trees. take a step back once in a while. forgot about about how "evil" black people are and worry about where your own life is going.

and it's not just about having black personnel in positions of influence, it's a deep rooted, ingrained system of institutional inequality that took a few hundreds years to build up, that is obviously still in need of further rectifying.

anyway it's a pointless exercise trying to have a rational discussion about these kind of issues with someone like you who's mind is full of ethnocentric mush.




Blah blah blah. You're addicted to the culture of excuse making. No matter how much you jerk yourself off about how great you're doing. Nobody gives a shit.  You've got to be the most insecure poster on this entire site, and that's really saying something. You can't post without bragging about your physique your house how much money you make, your scary intellect . Do you realize nobody here gives a shit if you live or die?  You're the entire laundry list of every negative stereotype people have about bodybuilders.


We're not even talking about individuals. So, your awe inspiring accomplishments aren't even relevant. It's about groups. These fuckers are from a group that has the highest criminality rate on the face of the earth yet they're making demands. They should be apologizing. That's why the fans are booing. They don't want to be lectured by a bunch of ghetto rats telling us how to act.

Your rap is nothing original.  It's based on a bunch of excuses and you can't even prove that the result would be any different without these excuses. But that's the point, isn't it? You keep moving the goalposts so that you can rationalize failure over and over. We've all heard it countless times and are tired of it.  That's why this happened:



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Re: NFL - Alejandro Villanueva vs. Colin Kapernick - what a difference
« Reply #88 on: September 27, 2017, 06:49:05 AM »
That applies to Africans as well...

that last one generation, in the west indies and africa they have culture and a superior british commonwealth education. one generation of being black in america they're kids are just lumped in as dindus

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« Reply #89 on: September 27, 2017, 07:38:58 AM »
i took an class at The Ohio State University that dealt with ethinic differences and they said that back in the day the irish who came to the USA were criminalistic thugs just like the blacks are nowqdays, but the irish grew out of it and assimulated into society while the blacks did not (although they were hoping that they would)

another interesting fact they taught was that irish girls were whores/prositutes while the eye-talin girls were not

pretty interesting course i must say

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« Reply #90 on: September 27, 2017, 07:59:39 AM »
i took an class at The Ohio State University that dealt with ethinic differences and they said that back in the day the irish who came to the USA were criminalistic thugs just like the blacks are nowqdays, but the irish grew out of it and assimulated into society while the blacks did not (although they were hoping that they would)

another interesting fact they taught was that irish girls were whores/prositutes while the eye-talin girls were not

pretty interesting course i must say

The irish could also just change their last name and in one generation be assimilated. Blacks can't change their skin colour

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« Reply #91 on: September 27, 2017, 08:27:59 AM »
The irish could also just change their last name and in one generation be assimilated. Blacks can't change their skin colour

What about behavior? Do the math here. How many black people in St. Louis were killed by whites this year? By my calculations that number is zero.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/newsone.com/3747824/st-louis-protest-black-murders-2017/amp/

Amid Protests, Black People Account For All St. Louis Murder Suspects In 2017
Written By Bruce C.T. Wright
6 days ago


Black people are being murdered at an alarming rate across the country, and St. Louis is all but Ground Zero for those killings. But in the wake of the this weekend’s violent St. Louis demonstrations following the acquittal of a White police officer who shot and killed a Black motorist in 2011, there was another key piece of relevant data that hasn’t evoked nearly as much outrage as Friday’s verdict: Every single murder suspect in St. Louis this year is Black, with nearly 90 percent of the city’s murder victims also being Black.

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« Reply #92 on: September 27, 2017, 08:29:49 AM »
i took an class at The Ohio State University that dealt with ethinic differences and they said that back in the day the irish who came to the USA were criminalistic thugs just like the blacks are nowqdays, but the irish grew out of it and assimulated into society while the blacks did not (although they were hoping that they would)

another interesting fact they taught was that irish girls were whores/prositutes while the eye-talin girls were not

pretty interesting course i must say





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« Reply #93 on: September 27, 2017, 10:05:59 AM »
The irish could also just change their last name and in one generation be assimilated. Blacks can't change their skin colour

It has nothing to do with the color of their skin. It is their culture and the creation of civil rights groups like the NAACP and the SPLC and now BLM which has continued to cause division along racial lines. The NAACP was created in 1909 and didn't have it's first black president until 1975. The ones with long noses rubbing their hands together are behind all of it.





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« Reply #94 on: September 27, 2017, 10:32:42 AM »
that last one generation, in the west indies and africa they have culture and a superior british commonwealth education. one generation of being black in america they're kids are just lumped in as dindus

What countries in Africa are you referring to sir?




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« Reply #95 on: September 27, 2017, 01:10:17 PM »
Blah blah blah. You're addicted to the culture of excuse making. No matter how much you jerk yourself off about how great you're doing. Nobody gives a shit.  You've got to be the most insecure poster on this entire site, and that's really saying something. You can't post without bragging about your physique your house how much money you make, your scary intellect . Do you realize nobody here gives a shit if you live or die?  You're the entire laundry list of every negative stereotype people have about bodybuilders.


We're not even talking about individuals. So, your awe inspiring accomplishments aren't even relevant. It's about groups. These fuckers are from a group that has the highest criminality rate on the face of the earth yet they're making demands. They should be apologizing. That's why the fans are booing. They don't want to be lectured by a bunch of ghetto rats telling us how to act.

Your rap is nothing original.  It's based on a bunch of excuses and you can't even prove that the result would be any different without these excuses. But that's the point, isn't it? You keep moving the goalposts so that you can rationalize failure over and over. We've all heard it countless times and are tired of it.  That's why this happened:





hahaha! and you think the white supremacy schtick you and the other spastics on here churn out monotonously day in day out is something "original"? hate to burst your bubble but you descend from a long line of similarly retarded piss ant cockseeds.

it really is quite funny how people of your ilk always tend be life's complete losers. you desperately cling to the achievements of strangers who you deem to be part of your "group" because their achievements are all you have to validate your own sorry excuse of an existence.  

something else that is funny is the majority of people even from your own ethnic group(those that you hold in such high esteem) actually view stormfront dwellers like yourself as the complete scum of the earth.

wake up to yourself moron.


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« Reply #96 on: September 27, 2017, 07:04:38 PM »

hahaha! and you think the white supremacy schtick you and the other spastics on here churn out monotonously day in day out is something "original"? hate to burst your bubble but you descend from a long line of similarly retarded piss ant cockseeds.

it really is quite funny how people of your ilk always tend be life's complete losers. you desperately cling to the achievements of strangers who you deem to be part of your "group" because their achievements are all you have to validate your own sorry excuse of an existence.  

something else that is funny is the majority of people even from your own ethnic group(those that you hold in such high esteem) actually view stormfront dwellers like yourself as the complete scum of the earth.

wake up to yourself moron.




Your assumptions are incorrect. I've never been on stormfront nor am I a white supremecist. You are obviously not interested in intelligent discourse, only feeble-minded insults. If you were able to refute any of my posts I believe you would have done so. From what I've been able to assess, you have the IQ of a spider monkey and this may or may not be due to the appalling level of incest in the british pakistani community and throughout the muslim world for that matter. Marrying your cousins, honor killings, rape and acid attacks aren't something that is excepted in the western world. These are just a few examples of why multiculturism doesn't work and people should stay in their homelands. Did you know that medical data previously suggested that while british pakistanis were responsible for 3% of all births, they accounted for 30% of British children born with a genetic illness? Ya learn something new everyday...




The Constitution of the United States of America

Although it unfortunately does not always use racially explicit language, the Constitution is essentially a White racialist document. It divides the population of the US into three categories: (1) Negro slaves, called here “Other Persons”; (2) Indians; and (3) “We the People,” meaning, obviously, White people, if we subtract Negroes and Indians from the total population.

The low estimation in which the Founding Fathers held Blacks is reflected in the so-called “Three-Fifths Compromise,” found in Article I, Section Two, paragraph three. It reads:

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.
The meaning here is that for purposes of apportioning representatives to Congress, which is determined by the population of each state, Blacks counted for only three-fifths of a White person. That Negroes are referred to here as “Other Persons” is especially telling: the Constitution specifically sets them apart from “We the (White) People.”


The Naturalization Act of 1790

Perhaps the Framers came to some belated realization that they needed to speak more clearly concerning race and the law. The Naturalization Act of 1790, setting out who may become a citizen of the new American nation, states explicitly,

That any alien, being a free White person, who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States, for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof…
You cannot get any clearer than that.


The Immigration Act of 1924 limited the number of immigrants allowed entry into the United States through a national origins quota. The quota provided immigration visas to two percent of the total number of people of each nationality in the United States as of the 1890 national census. It completely excluded immigrants from Asia.

Literacy Tests and “Asiatic Barred Zone”

In 1917, the U.S. Congress enacted the first widely restrictive immigration law. The uncertainty generated over national security during World War I made it possible for Congress to pass this legislation, and it included several important provisions that paved the way for the 1924 Act. The 1917 Act implemented a literacy test that required immigrants over 16 years old to demonstrate basic reading comprehension in any language. It also increased the tax paid by new immigrants upon arrival and allowed immigration officials to exercise more discretion in making decisions over whom to exclude. Finally, the Act excluded from entry anyone born in a geographically defined “Asiatic Barred Zone” except for Japanese and Filipinos. In 1907, the Japanese Government had voluntarily limited Japanese immigration to the United States in the Gentlemen’s Agreement. The Philippines was a U.S. colony, so its citizens were U.S. nationals and could travel freely to the United States. China was not included in the Barred Zone, but the Chinese were already denied immigration visas under the Chinese Exclusion Act.

Immigration Quotas

The literacy test alone was not enough to prevent most potential immigrants from entering, so members of Congress sought a new way to restrict immigration in the 1920s. Immigration expert and Republican Senator from Vermont William P. Dillingham introduced a measure to create immigration quotas, which he set at three percent of the total population of the foreign-born of each nationality in the United States as recorded in the 1910 census. This put the total number of visas available each year to new immigrants at 350,000. It did not, however, establish quotas of any kind for residents of the Western Hemisphere.

The 1924 Immigration Act also included a provision excluding from entry any alien who by virtue of race or nationality was ineligible for citizenship. Existing nationality laws dating from 1790 and 1870 excluded people of Asian lineage from naturalizing. As a result, the 1924 Act meant that even Asians not previously prevented from immigrating – the Japanese in particular – would no longer be admitted to the United States. Many in Japan were very offended by the new law, which was a violation of the Gentlemen’s Agreement. The Japanese government protested, but the law remained, resulting in an increase in existing tensions between the two nations. Despite the increased tensions, it appeared that the U.S. Congress had decided that preserving the racial composition of the country was more important than promoting good ties with Japan.

In all of its parts, the most basic purpose of the 1924 Immigration Act was to preserve the ideal of U.S. homogeneity. Congress revised the Act in 1952.

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Re: NFL - Alejandro Villanueva vs. Colin Kapernick - what a difference
« Reply #97 on: September 28, 2017, 11:48:11 AM »
don't know what kind of troll/gimmick you are. but i'm not pakastani, not muslim and not asian.

interesting copy paste stuff you posted. really just shows how overtly racist the US establishment was less than 100 yrs ago. no real surprise there are remnants of that still lingering in today's system. pretty much what i was saying. thanks


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« Reply #98 on: September 28, 2017, 12:08:05 PM »
don't know what kind of troll/gimmick you are. but i'm not pakastani, not muslim and not asian.

interesting copy paste stuff you posted. really just shows how overtly racist the US establishment was less than 100 yrs ago. no real surprise there are remnants of that still lingering in today's system. pretty much what i was saying. thanks



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« Reply #99 on: September 28, 2017, 01:13:16 PM »

hahaha! and you think the white supremacy schtick you and the other spastics on here churn out monotonously day in day out is something "original"? hate to burst your bubble but you descend from a long line of similarly retarded piss ant cockseeds.

it really is quite funny how people of your ilk always tend be life's complete losers. you desperately cling to the achievements of strangers who you deem to be part of your "group" because their achievements are all you have to validate your own sorry excuse of an existence.  

something else that is funny is the majority of people even from your own ethnic group(those that you hold in such high esteem) actually view stormfront dwellers like yourself as the complete scum of the earth.

wake up to yourself moron.



You keep bringing it back to the notion that you're doing better in life than the people who disagree with you. You're an anonymous account on the internet so that argument doesn't wash.

Show us how white supremacist America has held down other ethnic groups like Jews and Asians.
Explain how Hispanics are everywhere at family friendly events (go to the beach on a public holiday, Disney, even the museums are full of them) and blacks are nowhere to be seen.

Black people need to own their own shit and stop playing the victim card, it's got them nowhere but deeper into the gutter.