Drugs vs Genetics

[FREAKgeek]

what exactly are you arguing?

what i saw?

post my pics? lol.

you think juice is all there is to being 250? lol when i was 247 i used about 60% of what i used when i was 235/240. difference is eating and genetic response to drugs.

That's my point, glad you agree. Some people in here think any male can get to comparative size, it's just the aesthetics that will vary.

[SuperTed]

Why are there weight classes in sports? The lightweights don't have the testosterone? That's untrue, and they should respond the same way if it was so cut and dried.

Thanks for keeping it civil.

Weight classes tend to correlate with height. The taller the athlete, the more likely they will be competing at a higher weight class. Of course there are also other factors like bone structure and overall body composition too.

Ok. Tell me this.

Where are all these non pros, Vic Richards type of people, on the net that are mass monsters?

Again, how many people are doing what the pro’s do? Most of those on this forum that have competed for instance have used tiny amounts in comparison. To become a mass monster, it requires huge amounts of drugs. That’s not to say that everyone would reach the size of Ramy if they started living how he does, but the average man should still get pretty damn big if he chose to go down that route.   

[FREAKgeek]

Again, how many people are doing what the pro’s do? Most of those on this forum that have competed for instance have used tiny amounts in comparison. To become a mass monster, it requires huge amounts of drugs. That’s not to say that everyone would reach the size of Ramy if they started living how he does, but the average man should still get pretty damn big if he chose to go down that route.   

What about the mantra where an appropriate dose is good, but exceeding it is just wasteful? That has been said a lot around here. You either have it or you don't. Most pros also obtain their size rather quickly. "You know if you can turn pro after 2 years" is another one.

[spiro]

you mean the anabolic matrix yes?

gear, slin, gh, epo

not sure about that gettng me to 250, maybe 230, but 40 of it would be gut weight lulz

You would die before you made it to 200 pounds lol. Steroids give a few pounds of lbm and a few more pounds of water retention. Genetics really is the deciding factor.

[darkeyes]

You would die before you made it to 200 pounds lol. Steroids give a few pounds of lbm and a few more pounds of water retention. Genetics really is the deciding factor.

NO, Milk & 20 rep squats. Ass to grass baby !

[sceagacros]

What about the mantra where an appropriate dose is good, but exceeding it is just wasteful? That has been said a lot around here. You either have it or you don't. Most pros also obtain their size rather quickly. "You know if you can turn pro after 2 years" is another one.

^This, absolutely this.

YouTube and the net are full of examples of attempted "Mutation" through shockingly excessive doses and various "magical" combinations that worked out only in the deluded mind of the "mutant" and of course the encouraging words of the dealer / guru becoming enriched by said delusion......

If you have "it" -  you, and everyone around you will know almost immediately. You won't spend any energy 'convincing' others of your potential, as it will be self evident.

The idea that with insanely high doses, even sub-par genetics will respond like the pros, is simply untrue.

Much money is made off those who cannot understand or accept this.

[Top Poodle]

well, we all know eric has a shit response to drugs...

one look at his IG page will tell you all you need to know

[dj181]

You would die before you made it to 200 pounds lol. Steroids give a few pounds of lbm and a few more pounds of water retention. Genetics really is the deciding factor.

where's your pic MOUTH 

[dj181]

where's your pic MOUTH 

yep you are bigger than me, but your shape sucksass

whats your waist measure there?

42 inches id say lulz

[FREAKgeek]

You guys both look good. That's not the argument.

[dj181]

You guys both look good. That's not the argument.

I only look good when i am a fairly dry sub-8

otherwise i look like crap

[spiro]

yep you are bigger than me, but your shape sucksass

whats your waist measure there?

42 inches id say lulz

Your 140 pounds with 10 inch arms. I'm 6'1 210 pounds who gives a fuck if my waist is a little thicker retard. I get 10 times the pussy you do believe me.

[dj181]

Your 140 pounds with 10 inch arms. I'm 6'1 210 pounds who gives a fuck if my waist is a little thicker retard. I get 10 times the pussy you do believe me.

i dont try to get pussy shithead

10 inches eh

LULZ

p.s. that is just the start

check back in 3-4 weeks 😎

[spiro]

That's suppose to be impressive lol.
When you can fill a shirt out like this let me know.

[Simple Simon]

That's suppose to be impressive lol.
When you can fill a shirt out like this let me know.

soccer mom arms

[spiro]

soccer mom arms

Lol

[Bevo]

That's suppose to be impressive lol.
When you can fill a shirt out like this let me know.

Too bad you don’t have hair

Guess the bald look caters to schmoes easier

[AbrahamG]

yep you are bigger than me, but your shape sucksass

whats your waist measure there?

42 inches id say lulz

That waist is no where near 40 inches.  Good solid build.  Hopefully there aren't mega doses involved
in the attainment of this physique.  Looks natural and healthy.