Arnold claims he took 15mg a day

[darkeyes]

It was quite a small group of builders back then, and very little money in the "sport"

Ric Drasin knows what the others took, and I think they all knew what the guys they trained with every day were using

(The number of drugs available also was limited probably, and luckily they weren't into GH, insulin, diuretics, PMMA, synthol and veterinary stuff either)

Ric Drasin did gay porn to pay for it...or so i read

[dj181]

Ric Drasin did gay porn to pay for it...or so i read

alot of these guys did weird shit

Dr. BLAKLEY told me that Sonny Schimdt should have places higher than he did and the reason he didnt ia because he didnt do the special favors for the creepy judges 

when he told me that i said "no way man, i dont believe it" and he replied "come on Smoooove, you really arent that naive are you" and laughed in my face

[honest]

Off season Deca and Dbol, on season Primobolan and anavar.  Some took the old anapolan Mentzer Viator, others couldn't get rid of the bloat.

[darkeyes]

alot of these guys did weird shit

Dr. BLAKLEY told me that Sonny Schimdt should have places higher than he did and the reason he didnt ia because he didnt do the special favors for the creepy judges 

when he told me that i said "no way man, i dont believe it" and he replied "come on Smoooove, you really arent that naive are you" and laughed in my face

could believe it dj.

[dj181]

Off season Deca and Dbol, on season Primobolan and anavar.  Some took the old anapolan Mentzer Viator, others couldn't get rid of the bloat.

 

[falco]

no mater who you are 15mg a day wont do shit,, nomatter who you are no matter what it is,, no matter how small you are to begin with,,

yes some smaller fellas can getby on 30mg of legit dianabol like good ole Russians or snake and arrow original british dispensary anabols,, but they are small! lol a fella like Arnold was on good doses to fit his lean muscle and the size he wanted to be on stage,,

dianabol by the dozen tablets for short time easily,, you got to understand it ws and is hormones.. and it was not controlled any where in the world.. it was as simple as you get bananas and pine apples.. and stil is in many countries.. it stil is

some of the best sources in the world are from Greece and turkey and india and Portugal and all coutries where hormones seen as milk and honey,, who the fuck cares about hormones? all athletes are on hormones.. 99% of advance athletes are ON! hormones.. the other 1% are retired,,

Arnold was also on a lot more than just dianabol and used everything he could get along his career,, again everything was human grade or vet grade back then,, no fakes and no bunks,, it was like you going to eat in wendys Americana.. all square legit beef,,


gh15 approved
lion of Judah

You can only get legit hormones with a prescription in Portugal. And steroids are demonized overhere too. The only legit dianabol source i knew, 10 years ago, was naposim, from Romenia.

And yes, 3 naposim a day only (15mg), gave me good results.

[Bindare_Dundat]

2 years ago I purchased raws and took 500 mg of test a week and that's it. Test levels were 9 times higher then the highest average male after doing bloodwork.

Are you guys seriously suggesting that only one shot of Deca a week or a couple of dbol a day raised hormone levels higher then this back in the day? or that the Chinese can synthesize good test enanthate but can't make good dbol? Please.

I find that hard to believe considering even today's legit pharma grade  testosterone doesn't do that.

All this bathtub steroids talk sounds retarded. I think it has more.to do with being a hyper responder and training for years and years starting at a young age rather then the quality and the fact that some of these guys took way more then they even want to admit to themselves.

look at how the doses change from year to year from these guys mouths. one day it's natural or it's hardly anything, the next interview it's a bit more then  last time.  

[Bindare_Dundat]

Eh, hate to break it to you, but ill put 15mg of my dbol up against 15mg of naps or pinks any day of the week.

Find a legit source and there is no difference.

You think ALL UGL is underdosed? That ain't the case.

New UGL comes out. Overdosed products when guys are used to underdozed shit.. Word spreads. Sales volume increases and all of a sudden its 20% dosed and ppl are used to it until that source goes out and re-launches under a dif name.

Something I actually agree with you on. The gear back then wasn't some magic unicorn shit compared to the good stuff that's out there now.  lab tests prove that time and time again.

[NotMrAverage]

You guys have to remember that the stuff back then was pharmacutical grade and made in labs.....not the same shit that's being made in pseudo meth labs.  15mg of pure uncut pharmacutical grade legitimate Dianabol is strong as fuck!!!

In addition, bodybuilders trained a lot harder and practiced their craft more religiously than nowadays where athletes try to drug their way to a pro card

Yes pharma grade was the shit. I used legit methandrostelone dbol from russia and 2 amps of sustanon a week and got up to 200kg bench / 450 at age 19. But still you can find awesome shit now. Its getting old with the Good Old Days dramatics sometime...

[mazrim]

2 years ago I purchased raws and took 500 mg of test a week and that's it. Test levels were 9 times higher then the highest average male after doing bloodwork.

Are you guys seriously suggesting that only one shot of Deca a week or a couple of dbol a day raised hormone levels higher then this back in the day? or that the Chinese can synthesize good test enanthate but can't make good dbol? Please.

I find that hard to believe considering even today's legit pharma grade  testosterone doesn't do that.

All this bathtub steroids talk sounds retarded. I think it has more.to do with being a hyper responder and training for years and years starting at a young age rather then the quality and the fact that some of these guys took way more then they even want to admit to themselves.

look at how the doses change from year to year from these guys mouth. one day it's natural or it's hardly anything the next interview it's a bit more then  last time.  

Yep, it is verified through testing that some overdose their products. They were either mislabeling back then or taking waaaaay more then what they said. I lean towards the latter considering what guys like Grymkowski, Aviator, etc. have admitted. They have no reason to lie in that way. It doesn't portray them any better. They lying goes the opposite way. Those guys were of similar size to a lot of guys today (just without the gh/insulin).

Heck, we have medical studies today on test, deca that don't produce the results that are being claimed by people back then. Either no doseage control in the med industry back then or lying.

[Skylge]

Ric Drasin did gay porn to pay for it...or so i read

His name with some old video isn't evidence imo. Where are the vids that really prove it? Seems like it was made to show builders pretending to have sex, not actually doing it

[TSNWGS]

This is not true, my friend lived with Arnold in 69 and gave him the famous blue golden hurricane shorts he wore in pumping iron! It was told to me in one summer Arnold took a brown grocery bag full off gear and would take up to 100 dbol at once. He had a huge glass cookie jar full of dbol on his kitchen counter and would take a handful of up to 100 at one time.

[darkeyes]

His name with some old video isn't evidence imo. Where are the vids that really prove it? Seems like it was made to show builders pretending to have sex, not actually doing it

I think it was more than that... was posted here a while back.

[kingtung]

His blowing smoke; i rememeber asking Buselmo about 'x' amount of doses in the 70s, he replied? do you actually believe that shit? his National coach was from the 70s, his like they abused well over the limit but found out at X amount of dose does more harm then good and this around the 1,5gram region per week.

15mg LOL.

[dj181]

His blowing smoke; i rememeber asking Buselmo about 'x' amount of doses in the 70s, he replied? do you actually believe that shit? his National coach was from the 70s, his like they abused well over the limit but found out at X amount of dose does more harm then good and this around the 1,5gram region per week.

15mg LOL.

accrording to disgusted Mentzer took 2-3 grams of deca per week, not the 400 a week that he claimed

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Eh, hate to break it to you, but ill put 15mg of my dbol up against 15mg of naps or pinks any day of the week.

Find a legit source and there is no difference.

You think ALL UGL is underdosed? That ain't the case.

New UGL comes out. Overdosed products when guys are used to underdozed shit.. Word spreads. Sales volume increases and all of a sudden its 20% dosed and ppl are used to it until that source goes out and re-launches under a dif name.

Obviously you didn't read the second statement you dizzy mother fucker.....

[Van_Bilderass]

You guys have to remember that the stuff back then was pharmacutical grade and made in labs.....not the same shit that's being made in pseudo meth labs.  15mg of pure uncut pharmacutical grade legitimate Dianabol is strong as fuck!!!

In addition, bodybuilders trained a lot harder and practiced their craft more religiously than nowadays where athletes try to drug their way to a pro card

What the fuck would you know, you've never taken any steroids no matter what you say. Many guys these days train real hard with poundages that would break the old-timers backs. Arnold could squat 3 plates with piss poor form for a few reps. Nowadays you have pros who are literally teice as strong. Today natural teenage girls squat more than Arnold did.

There are literally tons of good dbol and other hormones made in China. I used plenty of pharma dbol, eg Akrihin and Naposim and Biobabol and several others. And Chinese UG is the same exact shit.

[Simple Simon]

What the fuck would you know, you've never taken any steroids no matter what you say. Many guys these days train real hard with poundages that would break the old-timers backs. Arnold could squat 3 plates with piss poor form for a few reps. Nowadays you have pros who are literally teice as strong. Today natural teenage girls squat more than Arnold did.

There are literally tons of good dbol and other hormones made in China. I used plenty of pharma dbol, eg Akrihin and Naposim and Biobabol and several others. And Chinese UG is the same exact shit.

and the current Mr O breezes through workouts using high reps and moderate poundages, same with Dexter Jackson, any one who wants longevity in bodybuilding has no business heaving around huge weights.

[HonestBob]

Interesting replies in this thread.

People who've actually been around the sport any length of time know that some guys really did take very little compared to the mega doses even beginners get put on these days.

I recently had a friend do 200mg of masteron/week for 8 weeks. It was his second cycle and he has no interest in competing. Everyone told him he'd see zero benefit and needed to quadruple the dose and add more compounds, but instead he put 10lbs on in 8 weeks with no apparent fat/water accumulation, had no sides, no sex drive drop off, and retained about 6/7lbs even 2 months after the cycle despite being a naturally scrawny ecto.

The other thing you all seem to be forgetting is that 30/40 yrs ago natural test levels were a lot higher than they are now. It's probably reasonable speculation to suggest that whatever environmental problems are causing this might also negatively impact receptor sites. I know heavyweight guys who do everything right, take 4/5 times what I used to take when competing, and still look only like good juniors from the 1990s.

[NotMrAverage]

Its hard to tell sometime if people lie or not. But my myself got up to 200kg bench / 450 on 5 x 5mg pharma grade russia dbol (methandrostenolone) and 500 mg sustanon as a 19 year Old. Another friend of mine won the light heavyweght junior nationals in bb with 250mg test and 200mg deca. Its not ALL drugs bros...

[Mr Anabolic]

This is not true, my friend lived with Arnold in 69 and gave him the famous blue golden hurricane shorts he wore in pumping iron! It was told to me in one summer Arnold took a brown grocery bag full off gear and would take up to 100 dbol at once. He had a huge glass cookie jar full of dbol on his kitchen counter and would take a handful of up to 100 at one time.

You repeated yourself twice and I seriously doubt that.  His liver wouldn't have lasted very long.  

[Van_Bilderass]

and the current Mr O breezes through workouts using high reps and moderate poundages, same with Dexter Jackson, any one who wants longevity in bodybuilding has no business heaving around huge weights.

What's smart is can be debated but saying no one trains hard, really exerting himselves, nowadays is bs. And it's not ether/or, you can do tons of drugs and train "hard".
One doesn't preclude the other.

Look at that Jordan Peters fella for example.

[Mr Anabolic]

I was fortunate enough to use the original French Parabolan, 76mg amps made by Negma.  The stuff was pure magic... heavy weights seemed like styrofoam... pumps were fucking unreal... super high quality muscle gains... no bloat or water weight.

[Simple Simon]

What's smart is can be debated but saying no one trains hard, really exerting himselves, nowadays is bs. And it's not ether/or, you can do tons of drugs and train "hard".
One doesn't preclude the other.

Look at that Jordan Peters fella for example.

I train hard, I dont feel the need to be heaving around huge poundages, I train smart, I cant be bothered going into it here but it involves a lot of constant tension and muscle contraction between sets.

[Simple Simon]

I was fortunate enough to use the original French Parabolan, 76mg amps made by Negma.  The stuff was pure magic... heavy weights seemed like styrofoam... pumps were fucking unreal... super high quality muscle gains... no bloat or water weight.

yep, no one was taking 5gms a week of that .....

152mgs a week a week and I was an emotional wreak