What % of being muscular has do do with lifting

[chess315]

Hypothetical if someone was on a good diet performance enhancing drugs how big could they be never  stepping a foot in a gym.

[Simple Simon]

Hypothetical if someone was on a good diet performance enhancing drugs how big could they be never  stepping a foot in a gym.

hardly noticeable....

[chess315]

I think it would be noticble because all the studies they gain muscle not having lifted. Granted if they played sports did Manuel labor it would help.

[Man of Steel]

well when I see chinese kids with crazy thighs or black kids at age 9 with solid pecs, abs and arms without spending a minute in the gym I kinda think genetics plays a significant role.

look at fat guys with crazy, huge, veiny muscular calves.  evem me, I can train arms one time a month and they stay bigger, stronger and more muscular than many folks.....my back not so much LOL.

[Zillotch]

u can look very good without ever setting foot in a gym.

[Henda]

We probably all know at least one person who ran gear but couldn’t be arsed to train properly only to look like shit and still look untrained. 3 brothers I know who were naturally skinny have ran steroids several times in a period of a few years and never even looked average untrained man size, they were “training” on a barbell of about 30kg, with a mismatched selection of plastic concrete filled weights with missing collars so they wrapped the bar in selotape so it was too thick for the weights to slide off so the weight could never be changed

[chess315]

Yes but obviously if you had high test and elevated igf1 you would have good genetics. I know I looked I been fairly large only doing benching doing barbell rows once a week like the last mentzer heavy duty said

[Tennisballz]

12%

[thatrandomguy#7]

well when I see chinese kids with crazy thighs or black kids at age 9 with solid pecs, abs and arms without spending a minute in the gym I kinda think genetics plays a significant role.

look at fat guys with crazy, huge, veiny muscular calves.  evem me, I can train arms one time a month and they stay bigger, stronger and more muscular than many folks.....my back not so much LOL.

genetics and carrying around all that extra flab day after day....

[Griffith]

They'll gain muscle just by watching TV.

[Tennisballz]

u can look very good without ever setting foot in a gym.

True.  My highschool had a championship wrestling team.  Most of those guys had good physiques and they never worked out in the gym.  Just wrestling practice and conditioning drills..  You just need some form of resistance training.

[Zillotch]

You just need some form of resistance training.

sure... beating someones skull in with a hammer, for instance.... would be a decent workout, I imagine.

[CalvinH]

hardly noticeable....

So basically the same as dj who's loaded on gear and spends all his time in the gym.

[Simple Simon]

So basically the same as dj who's loaded on gear and spends all his time in the gym.

nothing is happening to dj because the whole story is a figment of joons imagination and hes posting old photos of dj

[ratherbebig]

being muscular has nothing to do with lifting

people go to the gym for a number of reasons, for example to hurt themselves by doing exercises that are dangerous (deadlifts, squats etc) or because they're homosexual.

[tres_taco_combo]

average gym rat should spend less time lifting and more time doing cardio and focusing on diet

[Ted SuperSet]

well when I see chinese kids with crazy thighs or black kids at age 9 with solid pecs, abs and arms without spending a minute in the gym I kinda think genetics plays a significant role.

look at fat guys with crazy, huge, veiny muscular calves.  evem me, I can train arms one time a month and they stay bigger, stronger and more muscular than many folks.....my back not so much LOL.

How is the weightloss going brah?

[Megalodon]

12%

Heard this too, sometimes as high as 12.3%

[thatrandomguy#7]

True.  My highschool had a championship wrestling team.  Most of those guys had good physiques and they never worked out in the gym.  Just wrestling practice and conditioning drills..  You just need some form of resistance training.

wrestlers = low body fat = good physiques

[Man of Steel]

How is the weightloss going brah?

staying the course and steadily losing

[YngiweRhoads]

A study years back showed a non-training gear user gained more muscle than a natty bber who was exercising for the duration of the study.

[calfzilla]

5%

[Hypertrophy]

being muscular has nothing to do with lifting

people go to the gym for a number of reasons, for example to hurt themselves by doing exercises that are dangerous (deadlifts, squats etc) or because they're homosexual.

haha - a lot of truth to that 

[Hypertrophy]

A study years back showed a non-training gear user gained more muscle than a natty bber who was exercising for the duration of the study.

Here you go: http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101#t=articleResults

Cliff Notes: Guys on extra testosterone and no exercise got bigger than guys who lifted and had no testosterone added. If you lift and add testosterone you will get even bigger.

[Griffith]

Here you go: http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101#t=articleResults

Cliff Notes: Guys on extra testosterone and no exercise got bigger than guys who lifted and had no testosterone added. If you lift and add testosterone you will get even bigger.

Exactly, they can sit around and do nothing and still gain muscle.