So true, kinda odd how so many people are consumed with consuming protein for "gains" or think they will lose 3 ounces of muscle on their arms if they skip that chicken meal. I eat fish about twice a week only becUse my wife wants it. I have been fairly vegan/vegetaarian for more than a year and I look exactly the same....if not better. Some days my diet is purely bread, water, veggies, sugar (yeah bad I know). So much cheaper, feel better, look fresher/younger/cleaner. Coaches and gurus should be ashamed for pushing the protein and meat eating agenda for "gains". Gains is from drugs and genetics.
You may feel better/look the same(key point),but you wouldn't be able to put on another 15-20 lbs of lbm eating that way.
People like to forget what made them in the iron game. Overeating,progressively lifting heavier and heavier,and progressively increasing drugs overtime.
You need all 3 for consistent and great gains.
Most here went from competitive aspirations to 40+year old gym rats and come on here and say gear/heavy lifting/overeating are stupid, and for them at their age I would agree. But it's a necessary evil to build a base to be able to half ass like they do and maintain a shadow of their former selves.