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Author Topic: Does it matter to the average Trump supporter that he lied?  (Read 1412 times)
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« on: December 20, 2017, 09:53:28 PM »

He has been recorded many times over saying this tax reform would be bad for him. His "friends" were mad at him... We now know what we suspected at the time, he was outright lying. But does it matter to his base? I think not. 
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2017, 11:18:37 PM »

What did he lie about? It was a campaign promise.
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2017, 04:16:44 AM »

He has been recorded many times over saying this tax reform would be bad for him. His "friends" were mad at him... We now know what we suspected at the time, he was outright lying. But does it matter to his base? I think not. 

Yes, this will be the end of Trump for sure!


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« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2017, 04:27:45 AM »

Yes, this will be the end of Trump for sure!

The thing about the diet cokes was one of the most feeble and desperate attempts at a reach i've ever seen by the left. They just get more and more pathetic by the day.
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« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2017, 04:45:37 AM »

Iím starting to get the feeling that there are some people of the liberal persuasion who donít like this Trump fellow: Huh



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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2017, 04:57:42 AM »

He has been recorded many times over saying this tax reform would be bad for him. His "friends" were mad at him... We now know what we suspected at the time, he was outright lying. But does it matter to his base? I think not. 

Has any politician you have ever supported never lied?  Are you holding Trump to an unfair/unrealistic higher standard than any other politician?

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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2017, 05:31:41 AM »

He has been recorded many times over saying this tax reform would be bad for him. His "friends" were mad at him... We now know what we suspected at the time, he was outright lying. But does it matter to his base? I think not. 

It is worrisome that a man who so honorably served his community as Agnostic did could be so naive and child like in his thought process.
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2017, 06:40:20 AM »

I love it that liberals think cutting taxes and letting people keep more of their own money is somehow a bad thing.
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2017, 06:46:30 AM »

I love it that liberals think cutting taxes and letting people keep more of their own money is somehow a bad thing.

It's a bad thing only because the wealthy get to keep even more money and for much longer than the middle class.  Not fair.  Everyone must be equally miserable.  Obama did better in this regard, by doing nothing about it.
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2017, 06:47:54 AM »

It is worrisome that a man who so honorably served his community as Agnostic did could be so naive and child like in his thought process.

You have to consider where he worked. Iíve been around cops all my life and Iíve never seen one as liberal as Agnostic.


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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2017, 07:42:15 AM »

What do you tell your kids? Its okay to break the rules, lie, or sexual assault women(because they allow you to do it)
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2017, 07:50:32 AM »

What do you tell your kids? Its okay to break the rules, lie, or sexual assault women(because they allow you to do it)

Good question.  What do you tell your kids?

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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2017, 08:25:10 AM »

I see, but Obama and the entire left lying for 8 straight years about everything was ok? Geezuz Roll Eyes
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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2017, 10:01:40 AM »

Yes, this will be the end of Trump for sure!

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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2017, 10:17:04 AM »

Yeah, I dont like some of the bs from Trump - but so far his performance in office is going pretty good. 

I can tell mainly from the meltdowns of the hardcore left wing twinks on a daily basis he is effective. 
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« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2017, 10:24:25 AM »

Yeah, I dont like some of the bs from Trump - but so far his performance in office is going pretty good. 

I can tell mainly from the meltdowns of the hardcore left wing twinks on a daily basis he is effective. 

Agree.
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« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2017, 10:31:40 AM »

I love it that liberals think cutting taxes and letting people keep more of their own money is somehow a bad thing.

I can't speak for liberals, but my take on this tax bill is that it does cut taxes for middle americans, temporarily, bigger cuts for corporations (rich) are permanent. Trump lied about how it will impact him. I guess as most of you are saying, so what, who expects their President to tell the truth. The tax reform bill is a start, but it doesn't go far enough. Hopefully it will be revisited over the next few years as the tax cuts for americans start expiring. 
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« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2017, 10:33:06 AM »

What did he lie about? It was a campaign promise.

So you are saying, as President, Donald never said the tax bill would not be beneficial to him?
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« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2017, 10:34:27 AM »

Yes, this will be the end of Trump for sure!

The diet coke story was ridiculous. CNN is obsessed with all things Donald Trump. That doesn't mean they don't get it right sometimes
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« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2017, 10:39:59 AM »

It is worrisome that a man who so honorably served his community as Agnostic did could be so naive and child like in his thought process.

the fact I spent 30+ years  maintaining my integrity, in a world where what you say matters and truth is important, I'm sensitive to others lying. Spent a lot of time weeding through stories looking for the truth and non truth. It bugs the crap out of me that the President, who should be held to a higher standard, is so willy nilly with his lies and either nobody cares, or they can't see them because of bias. I've met pathological liars before, seeing one as President is like seeing a sexual predator as a marriage counselor. Makes no sense to me
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« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2017, 10:43:15 AM »

I can't speak for liberals, but my take on this tax bill is that it does cut taxes for middle americans, temporarily, bigger cuts for corporations (rich) are permanent. Trump lied about how it will impact him. I guess as most of you are saying, so what, who expects their President to tell the truth. The tax reform bill is a start, but it doesn't go far enough. Hopefully it will be revisited over the next few years as the tax cuts for americans start expiring. 

 Roll Eyes 

A lot of wealthy NYrs are going to pay a lot more in taxes - isnt that what libfags such as yourself keep screaming for?
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« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2017, 10:45:01 AM »

the fact I spent 30+ years  maintaining my integrity, in a world where what you say matters and truth is important, I'm sensitive to others lying. Spent a lot of time weeding through stories looking for the truth and non truth. It bugs the crap out of me that the President, who should be held to a higher standard, is so willy nilly with his lies and either nobody cares, or they can't see them because of bias. I've met pathological liars before, seeing one as President is like seeing a sexual predator as a marriage counselor. Makes no sense to me

And since you care so much about the truth, you also understand that a lie is something the person knows to be false at the time they make the statement, and not simply something that turns out to be false/inaccurate. 
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« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2017, 10:46:01 AM »

And since you care so much about the truth, you also understand that a lie is something the person knows to be false at the time they make the statement, and not simply something that turns out to be false/inaccurate. 

Certainly
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« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2017, 10:46:40 AM »

the fact I spent 30+ years  maintaining my integrity, in a world where what you say matters and truth is important, I'm sensitive to others lying. Spent a lot of time weeding through stories looking for the truth and non truth. It bugs the crap out of me that the President, who should be held to a higher standard, is so willy nilly with his lies and either nobody cares, or they can't see them because of bias. I've met pathological liars before, seeing one as President is like seeing a sexual predator as a marriage counselor. Makes no sense to me

Funny you never seemed to care when it was obama or hillary lying. 
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« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2017, 10:53:07 AM »

Certainly


Are you making that distinction with Trump?
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