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« on: December 22, 2017, 07:28:28 AM »

PROOF:::::::BREAKING:::::: Illegals DO NOT do jobs others wont, they commit More CRIMES, Raping and Pillaging USA!!!



22% of all MURDERS

18% of all FRAUD

33% of all MONEY LAUNDERING

29% of all DRUG TRAFFICKING

72% of all DRUG POSSESSION

YET THEY ONLY MAKE UP 7% OF PEOPLE IN THE USA!!!



<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzLwz714ylM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzLwz714ylM</a>
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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2017, 09:27:12 AM »

Just posted this on main board:

Where is he getting those statistics from?  He says it's from a report by the us sentencing commission, but the only report posted on their site doesn't have any statistics by crime attached to it. The coverage of the report in the Times specifically says that there's not a breakdown of crimes in the report and there is only one article about the study on the Fox site and they don't list break downs , either. I couldn't find them posted anywhere online.   The drug statistics he gave sound impossible. 72% or all federal drug possession convictions?
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2017, 10:00:22 AM »

Perhaps he has access to statistics that haven’t been released yet. Apparently there will be reports in the future which give more specific information:

This from the New York Times:


“The report did not specify which types of crimes the foreign-born inmates were convicted of, but senior administration officials said future reports would include such information. In the meantime, they pointed reporters to data from the United States Sentencing Commission, which they said indicated that noncitizens were convicted of offenses related to immigration, money laundering and drugs at a disproportionate rate along the southern border. Drug-related prosecutions tend to cluster there because of trafficking activity involving the Mexican cartels.”
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2017, 10:10:18 AM »

PROOF:::::::BREAKING:::::: Illegals DO NOT do jobs others wont, they commit More CRIMES, Raping and Pillaging USA!!!



22% of all MURDERS

18% of all FRAUD

33% of all MONEY LAUNDERING

29% of all DRUG TRAFFICKING

72% of all DRUG POSSESSION

YET THEY ONLY MAKE UP 7% OF PEOPLE IN THE USA!!!



<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzLwz714ylM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzLwz714ylM</a>

Wow.  Uncomfortable truths. 
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2017, 12:15:55 PM »

https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-publications/quick-facts/Quick_Facts_Non-Citizens_FY16.pdf

Couldn't find anything on their website that addressed those stats. I did find a stat page. Interesting that 67% of the crime or 2/3 of the violations considered as criminal was the mere act of illegally entering the country. If you take that factor out, I would imagine it changes the picture quite a bit
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2017, 12:17:35 PM »

Just posted this on main board:

Where is he getting those statistics from?  He says it's from a report by the us sentencing commission, but the only report posted on their site doesn't have any statistics by crime attached to it. The coverage of the report in the Times specifically says that there's not a breakdown of crimes in the report and there is only one article about the study on the Fox site and they don't list break downs , either. I couldn't find them posted anywhere online.   The drug statistics he gave sound impossible. 72% or all federal drug possession convictions?


I think waiting to see the source is a reasonable position. 
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2017, 12:52:36 PM »

Perhaps he has access to statistics that haven’t been released yet. Apparently there will be reports in the future which give more specific information:

This from the New York Times:


“The report did not specify which types of crimes the foreign-born inmates were convicted of, but senior administration officials said future reports would include such information. In the meantime, they pointed reporters to data from the United States Sentencing Commission, which they said indicated that noncitizens were convicted of offenses related to immigration, money laundering and drugs at a disproportionate rate along the southern border. Drug-related prosecutions tend to cluster there because of trafficking activity involving the Mexican cartels.”


Why would  he be reporting statistics only he has access to, but claiming they're from a just released report? Most reporters would acknowledge it as an exclusive. There's no  logical reason why he would build a segment around the statistics, but not acknowledge having an exclusive source.

My reading of that Times blurb is that the information will be collected in future reports, not that the same information will be released in future reports.

I suspect there's more to the story with those numbers.
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2017, 01:13:28 PM »


Why would  he be reporting statistics only he has access to, but claiming they're from a just released report? Most reporters would acknowledge it as an exclusive. There's no  logical reason why he would build a segment around the statistics, but not acknowledge having an exclusive source.

My reading of that Times blurb is that the information will be collected in future reports, not that the same information will be released in future reports.

I suspect there's more to the story with those numbers.

Go on his Twitter page and ask him. I don’t have a show on Fox… the negotiations fell through. Cry
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2017, 01:16:54 PM »

Go on his Twitter page and ask him. I don’t have a show on Fox… the negotiations fell through. Cry

Tucker Carlson is a straight shooter.  He normally does his homework.  I would be surprised if his info is bad.  And if it is, he will acknowledge and apologize. 
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2017, 01:44:02 PM »

Go on his Twitter page and ask him. I don’t have a show on Fox… the negotiations fell through. Cry
Just started a twitter account to find out. I don't know how to use twitter. I hope i'm doing it right. Why don't you be the first to retweet me?
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2017, 01:45:05 PM »

Just started a twitter account to find out. I don't know how to use twitter. I hope i'm doing it right. Why don't you be the first to retweet me?

You’re a smart guy you’ll figure it out.
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2017, 02:00:48 PM »

You’re a smart guy you’ll figure it out.

Well I've invested several minutes of my life into signing up to twitter and tweeting Tucker Carlson and no has responded yet. But I'm keeping my fingers crossed. 
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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2017, 02:03:03 PM »

Tucker Carlson is a straight shooter.  He normally does his homework.  I would be surprised if his info is bad.  And if it is, he will acknowledge and apologize. 

Until then, it's an uncomfortable truth. Wow!  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2017, 02:05:52 PM »

Until then, it's an uncomfortable truth. Wow!  Roll Eyes

Precisely. 
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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2017, 02:10:38 PM »

Precisely. 


Coming from the moron whose favorite  insults are "sheep" and "hack". Perfect.  Wink
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« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2017, 02:16:05 PM »


Coming from the moron whose favorite  insults are "sheep" and "hack". Perfect.  Wink

Stop lying.  I rarely use the word "sheep" to describe lackeys like you.  I have called you a hack more than once.  That's a true story. 
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« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2017, 02:55:58 PM »

I watched it and his logic makes no sense

He starts out by implying if you're in this country illegally then because you've come here illegally you're more inclined to commit a crime

If someone comes here illegally it makes more sense to presume they want to stay here and that would suggest they would avoid doing things such as committing crimes which could get them thrown out

without seeing the actual data or the study from the US Sentencing Commission there is no way to tell if these number actually represent all illegal activities by everyone in this country

One claim he made stands out as appearing to be totally bogus and that is the claim that 72% of all drug possession is committed by illegal aliens

This seems impossible to believe and I have no doubt that looking at the data source would show this claim is not correct


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« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2017, 03:14:55 PM »

Stop lying.  I rarely use the word "sheep" to describe lackeys like you.  I have called you a hack more than once.  That's a true story. 

I think we have different definitions of true story, though. Apparently, yours  means facts optional and how likely you are to be surprised  if the info is bad, and whether or not an apology is likely.
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« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2017, 03:16:37 PM »

PROOF:::::::BREAKING:::::: Illegals DO NOT do jobs others wont, they commit More CRIMES, Raping and Pillaging USA!!!



22% of all MURDERS

18% of all FRAUD

33% of all MONEY LAUNDERING

29% of all DRUG TRAFFICKING

72% of all DRUG POSSESSION

YET THEY ONLY MAKE UP 7% OF PEOPLE IN THE USA!!!



<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzLwz714ylM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzLwz714ylM</a>

Sounds like he gets his info from the onion. Obvious bullshit.
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« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2017, 03:26:56 PM »

I think we have different definitions of true story, though. Apparently, yours  means facts optional and how likely you are to be surprised  if the info is bad, and whether or not an apology is likely.

You probably have a different definition.  Does not surprise me.  You often talk out of your rear end.  But that's ok.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however whacked out it might be.  And even if it's an opinion the mainstream media and corrupt politicians feed you. 
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« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2017, 04:07:15 PM »

  And even if it's an opinion the mainstream media and corrupt politicians feed you. 

Yeah.  Just earlier today, I was defending some lamestream journalist's obvious bullshit that he couldn't back up with facts just because I shared some of his political beliefs. Oh, wait, no. That wasn't me. Who am I thinking of?
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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2017, 04:18:53 PM »

Yeah.  Just earlier today, I was defending some lamestream journalist's obvious bullshit that he couldn't back up with facts just because I shared some of his political beliefs. Oh, wait, no. That wasn't me. Who am I thinking of?

Stop trying to be clever and stick with regurgitating the garbage/talking points you swallow up like the good little liberal lackey.   
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« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2017, 04:36:14 PM »

I watched it and his logic makes no sense

He starts out by implying if you're in this country illegally then because you've come here illegally you're more inclined to commit a crime

If someone comes here illegally it makes more sense to presume they want to stay here and that would suggest they would avoid doing things such as committing crimes which could get them thrown out

without seeing the actual data or the study from the US Sentencing Commission there is no way to tell if these number actually represent all illegal activities by everyone in this country

One claim he made stands out as appearing to be totally bogus and that is the claim that 72% of all drug possession is committed by illegal aliens

This seems impossible to believe and I have no doubt that looking at the data source would show this claim is not correct




Go on his show and debate him..... I’d pay for that....lol
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« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2017, 05:04:40 PM »

Go on his show and debate him..... I’d pay for that....lol

I'd be glad to

Obviously you're incapable of debating me on this (what else is new)
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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2017, 05:12:20 PM »

“According to statistics from the U.S. Sentencing Commission, non-citizens are actually far more likely to commit serious crimes than Americans are,” said Carlson.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/12/tucker-carlson-unveils-never-seen-statistics-proving-illegal-aliens-commit-massively-disproportionate-amount-crime-video/



U.S. Sentencing Commission

https://www.ussc.gov/




DOJ Releases New Numbers: One-in-Five Federal Prisoners Are Foreign Born, Most Illegal Aliens


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2017/12/21/doj-releases-new-numbers-oneinfive-federal-prisoners-are-foreign-born-n2425834


Alien Incarceration Report

https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/Alien_Incarceration_Report_OIS_FY17_Q4_2.pdf
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