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« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2018, 11:29:17 AM »

The problem is when things are so heavily regulated they become more desirable, look at alcohol for instance, in Europe I don't even think they have a drinking age, my cousins in Italy started drinking at 12 years old, alcohol isn't something forbidden to the youth until they turn 21, yet you don't see DUI's there or people in the ER for alcohol poising or AA, it's just not a big deal there. As well as nudity, hell their local news papers and variety tv shows commonly have nudity in them, in America that is unheard of.  I've been to Thailand, in Thailand you can walk in to a pharmacy and get anything you want, Antibiotics, Viagra, Steroids, pain medications, etc.. yet you don't see Thai people abusing these drugs, if these drugs were legally available over the counter in America, there would be lines hours long to purchase these medications, all because these things are so strictly regulated here in the US.
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« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2018, 11:40:47 AM »

The problem is when things are so heavily regulated they become more desirable, look at alcohol for instance, in Europe I don't even think they have a drinking age, my cousins in Italy started drinking at 12 years old, alcohol isn't something forbidden to the youth until they turn 21, yet you don't see DUI's there or people in the ER for alcohol poising or AA, it's just not a big deal there. As well as nudity, hell their local news papers and variety tv shows commonly have nudity in them, in America that is unheard of.  I've been to Thailand, in Thailand you can walk in to a pharmacy and get anything you want, Antibiotics, Viagra, Steroids, pain medications, etc.. yet you don't see Thai people abusing these drugs, if these drugs were legally available over the counter in America, there would be lines hours long to purchase these medications, all because these things are so strictly regulated here in the US.

Well, aside for the overwhelmingly down side to weed, this is more about a revenue stream for the state because they donít know any other way (like tax cuts) and just something else to tax. They couldnít give two craps about the individual themselves.
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« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2018, 11:47:33 AM »

So can you just smoke weed out in the open now in Cali?

No. There are laws/ restrictions just like alcohol and tobacco. Generally speaking you can't smoke weed anywhere you can't smoke tobacco.

Also.cant drive under the influence like with booze and whatnot ( that applies to all prescription drugs actually. For instance you can't legally drive under the influence of say Vicodin or even benadryl (yes, you can get a DUI from Benedryl, ssri's as well if it impairs you).
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« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2018, 11:53:37 AM »

Well, aside for the overwhelmingly down side to weed, this is more about a revenue stream for the state because they donít know any other way (like tax cuts) and just something else to tax. They couldnít give two craps about the individual themselves.
I understand your perspective, honestly I don't know much about weed, I smoked maybe 4 times my entire life, I really didn't see what all the hype was about, but as someone stated, everyone that likes marijuana is already smoking it, so they mine as well legalize it/tax it and make a shit load of money. It's already widely available if you want it, kids are going to have to be accountable for their own decisions in life, its the parents job to nurture their children and inform them of the dangers of doing anything that can effect them in a negative way.
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« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2018, 11:58:58 AM »

....making California law makers and those who support it that much more stupid. But get caught with a bottle of deca, youíre a felon.

Geez big shocker , another "conservative" who wants big govt control. A real true republican conservative would be 100 percent for legalizing drugs like weed. It's the neocon new age Jesus faction of the Conservative party that is not conservative at all, more just morality policing knuckleheads. The Republican Party wonders why they can't win college age support...gee I wonder why
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« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2018, 12:48:48 PM »

See this is the retardedness of the average moronic Brit. AR-15s are NOT military grade weapons , hence why the U.S military doesn't use them , fucking dope , You , like most Europeans are hopeless clueless on firearms and firearms laws. Keep reading the Guardian 


ah fagget boy eunuch. nice to hear from you again.

i don't give a sht about guns as i'm not a spineless fag. but i know if there's a choice between my next door neighbour legally owning an ar15 or smoking a bit of weed...i know which one i'm more comfortable with ...
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« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2018, 12:55:21 PM »

So can you just smoke weed out in the open now in Cali?

You can if you enjoy interacting with cops.  Sure.

No, you can't smoke in public or you'll face a fine.  And you'll have to answer to cop on the scene, who may decide to work it for everything it's worth.
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« Reply #32 on: January 01, 2018, 12:58:30 PM »


ah fagget boy eunuch. nice to hear from you again.

i don't give a sht about guns as i'm not a spineless fag. but i know if there's a choice between my next door neighbour legally owning an ar15 or smoking a bit of weed...i know which one i'm more comfortable with ...

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i don't give a sht about guns as i'm not a spineless fag.

You posting in every thread about them says otherwise, You don't " care " about them because you're not allowed own them by your masters.

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but i know if there's a choice between my next door neighbour legally owning an ar15 or smoking a bit of weed...i know which one i'm more comfortable with ...

Fuck your comfort level snowflake. This is America not Londonstan your next door neighbors want the Caliphate and when they overrun you you'll be looking for Americans and their guns to bail you out , again  Wink
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« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2018, 01:00:10 PM »


ah fagget boy eunuch. nice to hear from you again.

i don't give a sht about guns as i'm not a spineless fag. but i know if there's a choice between my next door neighbour legally owning an ar15 or smoking a bit of weed...i know which one i'm more comfortable with ...

Why? Do you think they're gonna kill you with their AR-15? You're more likely to die by a car accident yourself lol.
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« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2018, 01:27:53 PM »

You posting in every thread about them says otherwise, You don't " care " about them because you're not allowed own them by your masters.

Fuck your comfort level snowflake. This is America not Londonstan your next door neighbors want the Caliphate and when they overrun you you'll be looking for Americans and their guns to bail you out , again  Wink

i would bet less than 5% of my posts on this board mention guns. probably far less.

now run along boy. not entertainingyour faggetry today.
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« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2018, 01:32:51 PM »

Why? Do you think they're gonna kill you with their AR-15? You're more likely to die by a car accident yourself lol.

well going on the murder rate in the US (majority committed by firearm) and the frequency of randoms randomly snapping and massacring up a bunch of people.

i think it's a fair bet i'm better off with the dude next door smoking a few reefers than owing a semi automatic gun. (or any gun)

maybe i'm just misreading the statistacs !  Cool
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« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2018, 01:33:00 PM »

i would bet less than 5% of my posts on this board mention guns. probably far less.

now run along boy. not entertainingyour faggetry today.

Again , stupid. Whenever they are , you are there with your ill informed opinion spouting the same bullshit and getting corrected left & right.  Wink

I would wager more than 5% of your posts are about how gh15 ripped you off with his fake kigs  Wink  Cool
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« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2018, 01:36:35 PM »

Again , stupid. Whenever they are , you are there with your ill informed opinion spouting the same bullshit and getting corrected left & right.  Wink

I would wager more than 5% of your posts are about how gh15 ripped you off with his fake kigs  Wink  Cool

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« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2018, 01:37:21 PM »

Don't really give a shit about the weed laws, it's far too easily accessible to be concerned with. My concern is these politicians fucking over our Constitutional Right to bear arms. Angry
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« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2018, 01:39:28 PM »

Don't really give a shit about the weed laws, it's far too easily accessible to be concerned with. My concern is these politicians fucking over our Constitutional Right to bear arms. Angry

You'll care when it cuts into your illegal narcotic sales. outlaw.
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« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2018, 02:04:26 PM »

Well, aside for the overwhelmingly down side to weed, this is more about a revenue stream for the state because they donít know any other way (like tax cuts) and just something else to tax. They couldnít give two craps about the individual themselves.

I've talked about this a little bit before, but one of the main things that happened today with marijuana is that cultivators are no longer allowed to sell directly to dispensaries. (Used to sleep with a supplier  chick  who supplied 80% of the valley . Technically she was a middleman/woman. And more recently was sleeping with a lady who was a licensed cultivator who owns an enormous Grill House..also security for her) There has to be a third party. There has to be a middleman now. So now if youre a cultivator, you have to sell the middleman first and the people who got the licenses to distribute marijuana or the people who already had licenses to distribute alcohol. Supposedly it was easier that way rather than vetting a whole new industry. I forget who's responsible for rent the testing and quality control of the product now if it's the cultivator or the middleman... Not bangin the chic anymore to ask. I believe the cultivator supplies the middleman with the raw product and it's the middle man's responsibility to test (they test for fungus eggs bacteria pesticides herbicides.. Shit like that. in addition to testing the THC, CBD,& CBN )  and package it... I think that's how it was explained it to me.

Every kind of product changes hands it's got to be text. Every time a product is tested it's taxed. Not sure what they're going to do about banking and what not cuz as of a a few months ago we were still doing cash transports. I was reading an article in the paper no long ago with a high end boutique style dispensary owner who is saying he was working on "very thin margins"... Total bullshit. The First Lady, the supplier, explained it that for the most part the guys running the dispensaries (at least back then, before recreational use laws were passed and the big money investors started getting involved) didn't have a whole lot of business experience. Meaning the accounting was I bawled and kept simple as far as profit margins and what not.

Basically meaning "everything was doubled" along the pipeline, and that was coming practice in the industry. (Ill start from the top down, price wise) let's say a dispensary charges $20 per gram of "top shelf" stuff (Girl Scout Cookies or Gorilla Glue #4 for example). They purchased it for $10/gram from the supplier lady, who in turn purchased it from either a grower or another middleman for $5/g... so long as everybody was on the same page and everybody was a team player in the industry everybody got a little bit of money, sorta like our steroid industry. All of us have generally accepted minimum prices that we charge for any particular product...

and I guess it took awhile for these potheads to put two and two together and realize that if the cultivator and it retailer we're closer together they were both turn a higher profit by eliminating the middleman. No more of this "doubling" bullshit. The cultivator knew what the retailer was charging for their product and what they were paying, and the retailer knew what the cultivator was charging for their product... For the most part.

So instead of the cultivator charging $5/g, they can charge $7.50... And instead of the retailer/ dispensary paying $10/g, now they're paying $7.50, so both the Growers and the dispensaries are pulling in a lot more cash now, so adding in the gov't regulated middleman (I don't mean government agents or some shit. I just mean companies licensed by the government the same way the ATF or Bureau of Alcohol whatever checks in on Jack Daniels to make sure they're doing everything right or some shit) is the first step in the government getting its share of the profits via taxes.

I believe the cultivator lady said she can still sell two individuals so long as they have a medical card... Crap, maybe it's the other way around maybe back then she could still sell it, hell she could even mail it so long as the person receiving it had a medical card, but now with the new law maybe now she can't sell it directly to end consumers.. Whatever.

The law passed because the government knew it was sitting on a cash cow and not collecting
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« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2018, 02:06:24 PM »

Lol at people thinking this will change anything.  You can pretty much get weed easily for years. Only difference is now youíll pay tax. 
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« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2018, 02:11:37 PM »

Geez big shocker , another "conservative" who wants big govt control. A real true republican conservative would be 100 percent for legalizing drugs like weed. It's the neocon new age Jesus faction of the Conservative party that is not conservative at all, more just morality policing knuckleheads. The Republican Party wonders why they can't win college age support...gee I wonder why

I agree with this. I'm a young Republican and this is where they really fuck up. Let people do what they want it's absolutely ridiculous.
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« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2018, 02:13:04 PM »

Lol at people thinking this will change anything.  You can pretty much get weed easily for years. Only difference is now youíll pay tax. 

Price per gram extra that you'll pay should be in cents, not dollars
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« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2018, 03:22:54 PM »

Geez big shocker , another "conservative" who wants big govt control. A real true republican conservative would be 100 percent for legalizing drugs like weed. It's the neocon new age Jesus faction of the Conservative party that is not conservative at all, more just morality policing knuckleheads. The Republican Party wonders why they can't win college age support...gee I wonder why

That was a lot of words about nothing
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« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2018, 03:45:40 PM »

That was a lot of words about nothing

You just described your entire posting history on getbig.
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« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2018, 03:54:10 PM »

Well, aside for the overwhelmingly down side to weed, this is more about a revenue stream for the state because they donít know any other way (like tax cuts) and just something else to tax. They couldnít give two craps about the individual themselves.

what's the overwhelming downside?
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« Reply #47 on: January 01, 2018, 04:06:48 PM »

what's the overwhelming downside?

There are at least 100 reasons but for the sake of training, it does absolutely nothing and it does "kill gains".
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« Reply #48 on: January 01, 2018, 04:13:50 PM »

I don't see how creating more pot heads is good for the country. I know someone will my friend makes mint and smokes dope. Great for him. The majority of pot heads are losers.
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« Reply #49 on: January 01, 2018, 04:22:53 PM »

The Cali growers will all get pushed out by the Mexican cartels. Cali is just going to make those cartels richer
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