Trump Administration - Your Fired - Who is Next?

[lilhawk1]

And you?  In comparison what have you personally done to improve the quality of what makes our Nation great?  President Trump is just what this country needs.  If Clinton were elected, it would read, "cuntry".  Talk about being screwed without the happy ending.

The old guard hates Trump not only for what he stands for but for whom he stand for - us.  As in U.S.  All of us.  The old guard encompasses both sides of the political coin, Republican and Democrat.  They want to continue to be in power. 

I like Trump. 

Trump stands for all of us?  Bullshit.  He is a sack of shit like the world has never seen.  Speak for yourself.  Trump cares about one thing in this world.  HIMSELF.  He doesn't give a shit about anybody else, period.  The people that can't see what a scumbag, lying, piece of shit he is, simply need psychological help.

[Primemuscle]

I'll bet Trump comes up with an excuse before 2020 as to why he won't run. "I've fixed the country and did everything I said I would, America is great again, no point in hanging around". Right now he enjoys the idea of being President, the trappings, but he doesn't enjoy the scrutiny and the criticism. He will eventually grow tired of being called out on every lie and debacle that he will find a way out. At least that's my suspicion 

But what about Trump being an egomaniac? Wouldn't that get in the way of his deciding not to run in 2020. IMO, Trump will never do anything he thinks makes him look like a loser or quitter unless it's his only get out of jail card.

[Agnostic007]

But what about Trump being an egomaniac? Wouldn't that get in the way of his deciding not to run in 2020. IMO, Trump will never do anything he thinks makes him look like a loser or quitter unless it's his only get out of jail card.

I thought about that. Because of his ego, I think he won't risk running and losing. No matter what he says, I would hope he is aware of his approval rating and what has been happening in some races that were supposed to go to a Republican but didn't. I think there are 2 things that will weigh on his mind. 4 years of not being always able to do what he wants, although he sure has blown all the previous presidents golf and vacation times out of the water in his 1st year, he is constantly scrutinized. It would get old for most people, I sure wouldn't want the hassle of Secret Service going everywhere with me as a billionaire playboy. Next, he doesn't want to risk a loss. If he runs, he stands the chance of getting embarrassed. I don't see him doing that. I see him going out "on top" by giving some speech about how he has been the greatest ever, he's fixed everything and there is nothing left for him to accomplish. He will be around 75 then.. I just don't see him wanting another 4 years of what has been a pretty chaotic administration so far.     

[che]

The end is near ,you don't f@ck with the FBI

[The Scott]

Trump stands for all of us?  Bullshit.  He is a sack of shit like the world has never seen.  Speak for yourself.  Trump cares about one thing in this world.  HIMSELF.  He doesn't give a shit about anybody else, period.  The people that can't see what a scumbag, lying, piece of shit he is, simply need psychological help.

You are an embarrassment to humanity.  No one save Democraps stands for  your kind.  And your kind kneels against America.  FTN.

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[LurkerNoMore]

Like a true liberal you don't argue or debate. You emote. Your responses are based on emotions. Just review the language that you use.

Thou shalt not steal is also a commandment but stealing a pack of sugar from a restaurant is quite different from robbing a bank. You brought up the issue of adultery not I. So what's good for the gander...

I don't argue or debate.  I post facts.  To dismiss them only contradicts your own argument and highlights your hypocrisy.

Good luck defending yourself from yourself.  You seem to base your argument on some "value" attached to the sin.  Whereas no value of any sin but the sin itself is proclaimed in the Bible you fancy yourself a follower of.

I realize that reality has a liberal basis.  Doesn't change it though.  But continue to spin away if it helps you sleep better at night.

[LurkerNoMore]

And you?  In comparison what have you personally done to improve the quality of what makes our Nation great?  President Trump is just what this country needs.  If Clinton were elected, it would read, "cuntry".  Talk about being screwed without the happy ending.

The old guard hates Trump not only for what he stands for but for whom he stand for - us.  As in U.S.  All of us.  The old guard encompasses both sides of the political coin, Republican and Democrat.  They want to continue to be in power. 

I like Trump. 

I agree. Trump is exactly what this country needs.  He is the closest thing to a Reset Button we will ever get.  This weeks latest scandal....   threatening a porn star for talking about an affair that he claims never occurred.  Instead of going the route of the justice system with libel/slander/defaming his character laws... he instead opts to try to sue her through a non disclosure agreement (he didn't even sign) over an affair that never even happened (according to him).

No wonder he is Putin's bitch.

[The Scott]

I agree. Trump is exactly what this country needs.  He is the closest thing to a Reset Button we will ever get.  This weeks latest scandal....   threatening a porn star for talking about an affair that he claims never occurred.  Instead of going the route of the justice system with libel/slander/defaming his character laws... he instead opts to try to sue her through a non disclosure agreement (he didn't even sign) over an affair that never even happened (according to him).

No wonder he is Putin's bitch.

At their level, neither is "bitch" to anyone.  A bitch bends over at the behest of two wills, that of their master and their own.  For lack of a better term, call it self-cuckolding.  You seem to suffer from this coupled with a bit of envy which is  understandable given your ego-fapping opinions on President Trump.  Tell us, do you bend over in front of a mirror or above one?

Either view is doubtless the same.  Liberalism is a disease and Trump is the cure.  The Farce is strong with  you, my young Paduwan Trainee...Be well.

[pellius]

I don't argue or debate.  I post facts.  To dismiss them only contradicts your own argument and highlights your hypocrisy

"Unlike Donald, Clinton got his pussy for free without having to hit up Wells Fargo for date money."

"Fact : Trump = Billionaire = Had to pay for sex.
Fact : Clinton didn't pay for sex." 

"The fact that a billionaire had to pay for sex is laughable anyway.  At least Clinton got his rocks off for free."

OK, fair enough. Facts are facts.

Quite telling the example you keep using to make your case for Clinton over Trump.
At least we know what's important to you in a President.

[robcguns]

"Unlike Donald, Clinton got his pussy for free without having to hit up Wells Fargo for date money."

"Fact : Trump = Billionaire = Had to pay for sex.
Fact : Clinton didn't pay for sex." 

"The fact that a billionaire had to pay for sex is laughable anyway.  At least Clinton got his rocks off for free."

OK, fair enough. Facts are facts.

Quite telling the example you keep using to make your case for Clinton over Trump.
At least we know what's important to you in a President.

Trump paid for sex from a hot porn star.

Clinton didn’t from a fat ugly lewinski.Prob did pay as well just don’t know about it.

[robcguns]

"Unlike Donald, Clinton got his pussy for free without having to hit up Wells Fargo for date money."

"Fact : Trump = Billionaire = Had to pay for sex.
Fact : Clinton didn't pay for sex." 

"The fact that a billionaire had to pay for sex is laughable anyway.  At least Clinton got his rocks off for free."

OK, fair enough. Facts are facts.

Quite telling the example you keep using to make your case for Clinton over Trump.
At least we know what's important to you in a President.

Trump paid for sex from a hot porn star.

Clinton didn’t from a fat ugly lewinski.Prob did pay as well just don’t know about it.

I’d rather pay for sex and not have to have a relationship and talk with a woman.

[funk51]

 

[LurkerNoMore]

At their level, neither is "bitch" to anyone.  A bitch bends over at the behest of two wills, that of their master and their own.  For lack of a better term, call it self-cuckolding.  You seem to suffer from this coupled with a bit of envy which is  understandable given your ego-fapping opinions on President Trump.  Tell us, do you bend over in front of a mirror or above one?

Either view is doubtless the same.  Liberalism is a disease and Trump is the cure.  The Farce is strong with  you, my young Paduwan Trainee...Be well.

Are you projecting again?  If you find Trump to be a cure for anything, you only prove how delusional and irrelevant you are.

[LurkerNoMore]

"Unlike Donald, Clinton got his pussy for free without having to hit up Wells Fargo for date money."

"Fact : Trump = Billionaire = Had to pay for sex.
Fact : Clinton didn't pay for sex." 

"The fact that a billionaire had to pay for sex is laughable anyway.  At least Clinton got his rocks off for free."

OK, fair enough. Facts are facts.

Quite telling the example you keep using to make your case for Clinton over Trump.
At least we know what's important to you in a President.

And you claim Trump's adultery is a "lesser" evil than Clinton because he paid for it?

[pellius]

And you claim Trump's adultery is a "lesser" evil than Clinton because he paid for it?

You really aren't too sharp, are you? When and where did I say that? You just made that up. Exactly
what Liberals do to promote their agenda.

Let me show what I really said about, oh, way back yesterday. BTW, you are having your ass handed to you dailylike Coach said. You are just too dumb to realize it.

You haven't made the issue of fidelity but rather who was cooler and had more "game".  There is a big difference between someone cheating on their wife in the course of a marriage and a sitting President doing it in the White House with a house intern.

There are gradations of evil. Some things, though in the same category, are worse than others. i don't
care that Trump had sex outside of marriage in his private life just like I didn't care that Arnold did when
he ran for governor, and don't act like you do too.

[pellius]

I think his point might be.. You're right, I don't care if Trump screwed around on his wife, or wives multiple times before he became president. But if you are going to be a party where you are afraid for the sanctity of marriage because gays want to marry, and you have a platform built on an image of moral superiority, then you probably should care that your candidate did.

You make a fair point that merits a more thoughtful response which at present I am not prepared to give as I was called in to work today. I will address this later when I get home.

Agnostic007, sorry I wasn't clear when I replied to your post who I was replying to.

First off, Trump didn't campaign on a moral platform but do I think my value system as a conservative
Republican is better than the Democrat's liberal platform. Of course I do. If I didn't I'd be a Democrat. And Democrats, and presumably you as well, think their value system is better than ours. That's why when they promote their values and beliefs it's called education and when we do it it's called propaganda and indoctrination even brainwashing.

Now if Trump doesn't live by all the value systems he promotes and I support him does that make me
a hypocrite? No. Have you ever supported anyone that practices 100% the values you support and he
preaches? God does not expect men to be perfect angels. One of the tenants of Christianity is that we are all flawed. That's what faith in Christ is for. I care less about what a person does in his personal life,
and there are many notable exceptions, than what he does vis-a-vis public policy. I wouldn't care as
much if Trump were gay than I would if he supported the gay agenda and sought to give gays special rights and privileges. I would sooner support a gay man than a straight man who promoted and supported special rights and privileges for gays.

And I don't know why you think that those who do not support same sex marriage is because we are afraid. My moral objection had absolutely nothing to do with public policy. It is a sin to Christians to commit adultery but I wouldn't want adultery to be illegal. My objection to same sex marriage as a matter of law and public policy was that  I do not think the case was made to justify special rights for gays and redefining a solid, traditional institution. Once you make this step what's to prevent one to now allowing other forms of marriage such as polygamy or brother/sister marriage?

[Agnostic007]

Agnostic007, sorry I wasn't clear when I replied to your post who I was replying to.

First off, Trump didn't campaign on a moral platform but do I think my value system as a conservative
Republican is better than the Democrat's liberal platform. Of course I do. If I didn't I'd be a Democrat. And Democrats, and presumably you as well, think their value system is better than ours. That's why when they promote their values and beliefs it's called education and when we do it it's called propaganda and indoctrination even brainwashing.

Now if Trump doesn't live by all the value systems he promotes and I support him does that make me
a hypocrite? No. Have you ever supported anyone that practices 100% the values you support and he
preaches? God does not expect men to be perfect angels. One of the tenants of Christianity is that we are all flawed. That's what faith in Christ is for. I care less about what a person does in his personal life,
and there are many notable exceptions, than what he does vis-a-vis public policy. I wouldn't care as
much if Trump were gay than I would if he supported the gay agenda and sought to give gays special rights and privileges. I would sooner support a gay man than a straight man who promoted and supported special rights and privileges for gays.

And I don't know why you think that those who do not support same sex marriage is because we are afraid. My moral objection had absolutely nothing to do with public policy. It is a sin to Christians to commit adultery but I wouldn't want adultery to be illegal. My objection to same sex marriage as a matter of law and public policy was that  I do not think the case was made to justify special rights for gays and redefining a solid, traditional institution. Once you make this step what's to prevent one to now allowing other forms of marriage such as polygamy or brother/sister marriage?


I'm not Democrat I'm officially Libertarian. I can't vote at the national level for Libertarians because they are nut cases to put it bluntly. But I'm for as little of Government in our private lives as possible. Getting that out of the way..

Your objection to gays is that it is a sin.. cool.. Have you ever read what Jesus said about adulterers and adulterers that remarry? Christians tend to pick the sins that they find easy to rally against and ignore the ones they commit. My problem with Trump from an Agnostic viewpoint is that even non believers have morals and standards. I try to treat people with dignity and respect and I make a point of telling the truth even when it sucks. I'm not perfect but I can go days or weeks without telling a lie and I dislike people who don't feel they need to do the same. I also get that you can't expect every person you support to follow your values and beliefs 100% and that is true. I just find Trump to be about as anti "decent" as a man can get. I think he dishonors the office, and he dishonors our country with his juvenile rants, lies and accusations. To me it's embarrassing but I get that not everyone sees it that way.

   

[pellius]

"I'm not Democrat I'm officially Libertarian. I can't vote at the national level for Libertarians because they are nut cases to put it bluntly. But I'm for as little of Government in our private lives as possible. Getting that out of the way..

Your objection to gays is that it is a sin.. cool.. Have you ever read what Jesus said about adulterers and adulterers that remarry? Christians tend to pick the sins that they find easy to rally against and ignore the ones they commit. My problem with Trump from an Agnostic viewpoint is that even non believers have morals and standards. I try to treat people with dignity and respect and I make a point of telling the truth even when it sucks. I'm not perfect but I can go days or weeks without telling a lie and I dislike people who don't feel they need to do the same. I also get that you can't expect every person you support to follow your values and beliefs 100% and that is true. I just find Trump to be about as anti "decent" as a man can get. I think he dishonors the office, and he dishonors our country with his juvenile rants, lies and accusations. To me it's embarrassing but I get that not everyone sees it that way."

Being a Libertarian I would think you would be against passing laws in support of same sex marriage. Gays have been getting married for decades. I remember a friend showed me the invitation he got for
Bob Paris' marriage. People are free to live as they want as long as they do not infringe on the rights of
others. It's one thing for Bob and Rod to live as they want but it's quite another to force society to
accept and honor it. Just do what you want. Put a pink bow on your cat and call her your wife just don't force me to accept and honor it. Hugh Hefner for all practical purposes live his life as a polygamous. He just didn't force his life style on anybody else. He just left it for us to envy his. And BTW, I was never
against gay marriage in the legal sense. I was against same sex marriage. An obfuscation the Left used
to piggyback on the gay rights movement. I was with Arnold when running for governor when he said, "I support gay marriage as long as it's between a man and a woman." Gays had the same rights as everybody else vis-a-vis marriage. Everyone had the same rights to marry someone of the opposite sex. Nobody had the legal right to marry a member of the same sex. They wanted and got special rights. A new right that never existed before and used and needed government involvement. Something I would
think a Libertarian would be against.

I know what God says about gays. I know what God says about those who lie, cheat and steal. I know
what God says about Jews and non Christians. There is nothing in the Bible that compels a Christian to
ostracize or condemn everyone in every case who has violated the commandments and sinned or believe as we do. We weigh the good and bad and judge a person based on our admittedly very subjective standards. We leave it to God to judge their souls.

As far as turning on Trump as you feel he has disgraced the office. That is a fair judgement and one I can't argue. I was a Cruz supporter. But to use the well worn but often ignored adage: this ain't a perfect world. When the choice became between Hillary and Trump. It wasn't even close. I always chose
boorish behavior over a true blue criminal that puts their country at a national security risk. Not to mention that I support his platform on the major issues this country faces.  

[Agnostic007]

"I'm not Democrat I'm officially Libertarian. I can't vote at the national level for Libertarians because they are nut cases to put it bluntly. But I'm for as little of Government in our private lives as possible. Getting that out of the way..

Your objection to gays is that it is a sin.. cool.. Have you ever read what Jesus said about adulterers and adulterers that remarry? Christians tend to pick the sins that they find easy to rally against and ignore the ones they commit. My problem with Trump from an Agnostic viewpoint is that even non believers have morals and standards. I try to treat people with dignity and respect and I make a point of telling the truth even when it sucks. I'm not perfect but I can go days or weeks without telling a lie and I dislike people who don't feel they need to do the same. I also get that you can't expect every person you support to follow your values and beliefs 100% and that is true. I just find Trump to be about as anti "decent" as a man can get. I think he dishonors the office, and he dishonors our country with his juvenile rants, lies and accusations. To me it's embarrassing but I get that not everyone sees it that way."

Being a Libertarian I would think you would be against passing laws in support of same sex marriage. Gays have been getting married for decades. I remember a friend showed me the invitation he got for
Bob Paris' marriage. People are free to live as they want as long as they do not infringe on the rights of
others. It's one thing for Bob and Rod to live as they want but it's quite another to force society to
accept and honor it. Just do what you want. Put a pink bow on your cat and call her your wife just don't force me to accept and honor it. Hugh Hefner for all practical purposes live his life as a polygamous. He just didn't force his life style on anybody else. He just left it for us to envy his. And BTW, I was never
against gay marriage in the legal sense. I was against same sex marriage. An obfuscation the Left used
to piggyback on the gay rights movement. I was with Arnold when running for governor when he said, "I support gay marriage as long as it's between a man and a woman." Gays had the same rights as everybody else vis-a-vis marriage. Everyone had the same rights to marry someone of the opposite sex. Nobody had the legal right to marry a member of the same sex. They wanted and got special rights. A new right that never existed before and used and needed government involvement. Something I would
think a Libertarian would be against.

I know what God says about gays. I know what God says about those who lie, cheat and steal. I know
what God says about Jews and non Christians. There is nothing in the Bible that compels a Christian to
ostracize or condemn everyone in every case who has violated the commandments and sinned or believe as we do. We weigh the good and bad and judge a person based on our admittedly very subjective standards. We leave it to God to judge their souls.

As far as turning on Trump as you feel he has disgraced the office. That is a fair judgement and one I can't argue. I was a Cruz supporter. But to use the well worn but often ignored adage: this ain't a perfect world. When the choice became between Hillary and Trump. It wasn't even close. I always chose
boorish behavior over a true blue criminal that puts their country at a national security risk. Not to mention that I support his platform on the major issues this country faces.  

While we disagree on many things, I appreciate the rare opportunity on this forum to have an adult discussion about it without insults and name calling. Thanks for that

[residue]

McCabe fired..

Clinton, Obama, Lynch, etc should be shitting their pants right now, in Killary’s case. Her diapers

the whole hillary\obama are going to get prosecuted is as dumb as liberals thinking they'll find the scandal to impeach trump. just give it the fuck up

[LurkerNoMore]

You really aren't too sharp, are you? When and where did I say that? You just made that up. Exactly
what Liberals do to promote their agenda.

Let me show what I really said about, oh, way back yesterday. BTW, you are having your ass handed to you dailylike Coach said. You are just too dumb to realize it.

 

So the issue is not fidelity but rather who has to pay.

HAHA indeed.

Someone is dumb, that's for sure.  As evident by anyone thinking along the lines of Coach.

You are struggling.  Is it painful yet?

[LurkerNoMore]

Your objection to gays is that it is a sin.. cool.. Have you ever read what Jesus said about adulterers and adulterers that remarry? Christians tend to pick the sins that they find easy to rally against and ignore the ones they commit. My problem with Trump from an Agnostic viewpoint is that even non believers have morals and standards. I try to treat people with dignity and respect and I make a point of telling the truth even when it sucks. I'm not perfect but I can go days or weeks without telling a lie and I dislike people who don't feel they need to do the same. I also get that you can't expect every person you support to follow your values and beliefs 100% and that is true. I just find Trump to be about as anti "decent" as a man can get. I think he dishonors the office, and he dishonors our country with his juvenile rants, lies and accusations. To me it's embarrassing but I get that not everyone sees it that way.

[Agnostic007]

It was stunning to me when it first started happening but now I'm used to the answer when a christian friend or acquaintance of mine starts talking about something related to the bible and I ask them if they have ever actually read the bible cover to cover. I've met very few, very few that can say they have. For someone who believes that is the word of their god, I find that odd. 

[LurkerNoMore]

It was stunning to me when it first started happening but now I'm used to the answer when a christian friend or acquaintance of mine starts talking about something related to the bible and I ask them if they have ever actually read the bible cover to cover. I've met very few, very few that can say they have. For someone who believes that is the word of their god, I find that odd. 

You are not the only one.  Weird that atheists seem to know more about the book than the people who claim to follow it does.

Actually, that is not weird at all.  If they did read it with intellect as opposed to blind faith, they would realize how hoodwinked they truly are.

[pellius]

Someone is dumb, that's for sure.  As evident by anyone thinking along the lines of Coach.

You are struggling.  Is it painful yet?

Hmm, perhaps English is not your first language. Maybe you still struggle with reading
comprehension. My responses to your post really went that far over your head?
Coach was right. The more you post the more you own yourself. You really are too
dumb to realize how dumb you are and you are just projecting this to Coach.

Coach, are you still here? Really breathtaking how clueless this guy is.