Here is me with Roelly last year . I was bulked up. And yeah, I was trying to out angle him.

my point to the comment is everyone is dead set on their opinion which is based on one or all 3 of the following
1- because science says so

2- bro science

3- actual in the gym experience

None of them are actually right or wrong to be honest because there are probably other variables not even being considered outside the biomechanics etc