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« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2018, 01:06:07 AM »
And that of course is a bullshit claim. In Finland they used to do snoring treatments where they remove whole uvula, but they stop that because it doesn't have any effect of snoring. The real major component is fat which narrow your airways, or massive tonsils, limp palate etc. Just for snoring there is a RFA treatment, if you have the sleep apnea, you need more than that, like CPAP.

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« Reply #26 on: May 18, 2018, 10:03:13 AM »
I feel like I’m suffocating breathing through my nose with my mouth closed. 

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« Reply #27 on: May 18, 2018, 10:05:31 AM »
The only reason why I don't sleep on my stomach is because of the stiff back pain the next morning..
same here brother

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« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2018, 12:57:03 PM »
I feel like I’m suffocating breathing through my nose with my mouth closed. 

You need to see an Ear, Nose, and Throat specialist...for real, that's not normal. 

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« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2018, 01:58:08 PM »
You had a mild index.  JADs don't have really good success rates.

The pressure helps stabilize the uvula, in which its' vibration is a major component of snoring.

A Full Face mask pushes down in the lower jaw, forcing you to mouth breath.  Smart move to go with a nasal mask and chin strap even if you are a severe ventor.  In most cases over time patients can sleep with the venting, as long as there are no associated arousals.  

No I didn't, but keeping my jaw forward made all the difference. No cpap now for about 4 years.

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« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2018, 02:24:24 PM »
Would you sleep on your stomach at Goodrums house for 10 grand?
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« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2018, 04:52:31 PM »
4th night and I still can’t sleep with it.   I lay awake for 2-3 hours then pull it off and fall asleep normally. I’m tired as fuck.   I got a different mask today to try.   I  seriously hate this fucking thing. 

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« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2018, 07:34:13 PM »
interesting how EVRY man seems to have sleep apnea these days and it can be so fatal....where are all the dead bodies?? I went for a sleep study once because my ex kunt complained about my snoring (no other bitch I ever slept with complained before) in the end they said I was fine...its a scam industry imo!!

People can and do die suddenly in their sleep from sleep apnea, but sleep apnea also causes many health problems that can lead to death such as atrial fibrillation, which causes higher incidence of stroke, it causes hypertension, CHF, pulmonary hypertension, diabetes, heart disease, heart attack, etc.  So no, its not a scam industry.

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« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2018, 07:34:53 PM »
I feel like I’m suffocating breathing through my nose with my mouth closed. 

100% same here...

panic sets in fast... can't get enough air

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« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2018, 11:21:24 PM »
4th night and I still can’t sleep with it.   I lay awake for 2-3 hours then pull it off and fall asleep normally. I’m tired as fuck.   I got a different mask today to try.   I  seriously hate this fucking thing. 

Maybe the pressure needs to be adjusted?

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« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2018, 12:26:29 AM »
interesting how EVRY man seems to have sleep apnea these days and it can be so fatal....where are all the dead bodies?? I went for a sleep study once because my ex kunt complained about my snoring (no other bitch I ever slept with complained before) in the end they said I was fine...its a scam industry imo!!

You can have a snore w/out apnea but I'll pretend otherwise for getbig. This site has to lead the internet in cluster fucks!

4th night and I still can’t sleep with it.   I lay awake for 2-3 hours then pull it off and fall asleep normally. I’m tired as fuck.   I got a different mask today to try.   I  seriously hate this fucking thing. 


Try pillows and stop complaining. Accumulation can take up to 3 weeks.  If you have positive pressure issues request BiPAP.

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« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2018, 02:52:38 AM »
I feel like I’m suffocating breathing through my nose with my mouth closed. 

100% same here...

panic sets in fast... can't get enough air
If you wake up heart racing and out of breath, you need to increase
 the pressure...it's counter intuitive in that respect.

4th night and I still can’t sleep with it.   I lay awake for 2-3 hours then pull it off and fall asleep normally. I’m tired as fuck.   I got a different mask today to try.   I  seriously hate this fucking thing.  

As for not being able to fall asleep...they tried to make me use a mask that covered my nose...They said that masks are more effective and they had a policy against nose pillows. I could feel my breath on the tip of my nose...That was a deal breaker for me.  I could only make pillows with a chin strap work for me...Also pillows help open the nostrils with the pressure...a mask won't do that.

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« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2018, 06:37:44 AM »
I have had a sleep study done recently. Turns out I stop breathing about 15-30 times an hour, the max at one point was 65 seconds.  Pretty scary shit.  The Doctor sent me to a Sleep Center to get a CPAP.  I've read the threads on here and saw how man of steele claims how his life has changed and got excited about the positive outcomes for myself.

I go and they initially wanted to force me to use a nasal pillow first.  I tell the bitch I don't breathe from my nose but she insists I try it.  She tells me to close my mouth and start breathing through my nose.  About 10 breaths in I start to feel like I'm drowning and panic and rip it off. She then still insists I try it and gives me a different nose piece.  Same shit, same reaction.  Then we try the mouth cover thing.  I put it on and it seems more comfortable except for the strap over and around the back of my head and my chin.  I felt like Bane.  The air was cool breathing in and it seemed to be okay.  They send me home and tell me to try it when working and shit to get used to it.  I tried it for an hour and it seemed fine.

At night I usually fall asleep right away, never had issues falling asleep but had issues staying asleep.  I strap this thing on and try to get comfortable.  I usually sleep on my stomach but that's impossible with the mask since it gets pushed into my face or over away from my mouth.  So now I can't get comfortable.  I try to lay on my back and the more I breath, the more refreshed I get.  Instead of sleeping or wanting to sleep I find myself getting more and more awake.  I struggle for 3 hours to sleep, I think I nodded off a couple times and woke up panicked like I was chocking and ripped the mask off my face.  Finally I gave up and went to sleep normally and get a few hours in. Felt like shit all day. 

Midday I'm dying tired so I try it on and see if I can nap.  Nope, it just refreshes me again and makes me feel more alert and awoke.  the rest of the day I felt fine.  Back to bed, this time I pop a valium which always knocks me out in like 5 minutes.  I lay there and 2 hours withe the mask on, even try the ramp function which starts low and increases but hours pass by and no sleep.  I feel awake and not tired.  I take it off and sleep within minutes without it.

How the fuck is anyone supposed to sleep with this shit?  All of the fucking straps and mask and constant cool air being pumped into my mouth and nose doesn't seem like a good way to pass out.  Anyone else try these CPAPs and felt the same?  Anyone have tips on what might work?

You get used to it. How high is your pressure set? Mine used to be super high until I got my deviated septum fixed. That was super hard to sleep with, now the pressure is low, so it doesn’t bother me. It feels like a seat belt, put it on before you sleep.
The worst part of a cpap is traveling with it, and it can kind of fucks with morning sex happening naturally.  ;D
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« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2018, 12:13:23 PM »
It amazes me that they seem to prescribe a CPAP or APAP right away in the US. I went from 14 to less than 1 breathing stops/hour, using an apnea mouth device.




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« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2018, 01:13:39 PM »
Just what the fuck? Are guys  getting so fat they need machines to sleep?   Put on a pair of running shoes. Get rid of the syringes and get lean.

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« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2018, 01:20:24 PM »
Just what the fuck? We are getting so fat we need machines to sleep?   Put on a pair of running shoes. Get rid of the syringes and get lean.

Has nothing to do with it. Friend of mine went from 290 to 210 and nothing changed. I changed the foods I ate and lost no weight and went from using CPAP to this mouth piece. I actually only need it if I am lying on my back but it's so comfortable I don't mind using it.

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« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2018, 02:54:01 PM »
Just what the fuck? Are guys  getting so fat they need machines to sleep?   Put on a pair of running shoes. Get rid of the syringes and get lean.

Nothing to do with fat for me.  My neck is 20 1/2.  Doc told me to stop working traps.  I went into the doctor and yes there are all sorts of old and fat people there.  In my case it's just large neck and muscles in my neck area.  While waiting in the reception area, fat guy after fat guy comes in and I just sit there feeling disgusted that I'm in a room with these people and associated with the same issue, but fat or muscle doesn't matter, all that extra weight when laying down can cause your throat to close when everything is relaxed.

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« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2018, 03:27:11 PM »
   There are lots of factors that cause obstructive breathing, even enlarged tonsils.  Obesity is correlated to sleep apnea but is not directly associated with it.  Many skinny people snore.

   Mouth devices might work but most of the time they Don't work.  Surgery does NOT work most of the time.  However, after surgery you can use lower pressures in your CPAP machine.

I do this stuff for a living, believe it or not hehe..

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« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2018, 04:35:25 PM »
Just what the fuck? Are guys  getting so fat they need machines to sleep?   Put on a pair of running shoes. Get rid of the syringes and get lean.
Fat is only one factor. Lots of people have cpaps that aren’t fat. I’m one of them.  Cpaps are common in people that workout and actually built muscle.
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« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2018, 05:36:18 PM »
I've been putting off doing my sleep study for years now. Been told by many girls I stop breathing in my sleep and women up by quite a few hitting me in the face to wake me up and even my Ex trying to give me mouth to mouth ffs. I suspect they won't give sleep meds during a sleep study, which means I'd likely not sleep at all all night. :/

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« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2018, 05:47:58 PM »
Has nothing to do with it. Friend of mine went from 290 to 210 and nothing changed. I changed the foods I ate and lost no weight and went from using CPAP to this mouth piece. I actually only need it if I am lying on my back but it's so comfortable I don't mind using it.

Being over weight is huge reason for snoring. Not the only one.

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« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2018, 06:08:28 PM »
Being over weight is huge reason for snoring. Not the only one.

And snoring and sleep apnea are two different things. Not all over weight people who snore have sleep apnea and some very thin people who don't snore have sleep apnea.

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« Reply #47 on: May 20, 2018, 08:25:00 PM »
for performance reasons - if i can sleep better/better recovery 100% I am in

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« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2018, 07:12:55 AM »
I've been putting off doing my sleep study for years now. Been told by many girls I stop breathing in my sleep and women up by quite a few hitting me in the face to wake me up and even my Ex trying to give me mouth to mouth ffs. I suspect they won't give sleep meds during a sleep study, which means I'd likely not sleep at all all night. :/

I got maybe 2 hours of sleep in my sleep study.  The whole setup was uncomfortable but in those two hours they found I stopped breathing about 15 times on my side and close to 30 when I was on my stomach and one point I stopped for 65 seconds straight.  So they will get some results from you.

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« Reply #49 on: May 21, 2018, 11:58:46 AM »
You will so know the first morning when you get it right...


Also, your blood pressure issues will get a lot better.


Also also...the newer machine are what are called "self titrating" which means a computer can detect when you need more pressure and adjust...which means, within narrow limits, weight changes won't throw anything off.