McDonald's is pure garbage.

[pellius]

Hawaiians and Spam are like peas in a pod. Blacks and young people have a reputation for letting money 'burn a hole' in their pockets. -Wonder why this is so? I had no idea people from India were so thrifty. Don't you have tattoos and sport nice clothes? A person should enjoy some of their hard earned money.

I'm always given a hard time because I won't touch SPAM. No fake meat for me.

[Go 4 It]

Canola oil, which is what they use, is toxic? How?

Dude its a GMO Vegetable Oil

Dangers of Canola Oil
1. Kidney and Liver Problems
The majority of canola oil produced today is genetically modified. The side effects of GMOs in general cannot be overstated.
In a 2011 review published in Environmental Sciences Europe, 19 studies of mammals fed GMO soybeans and corn were evaluated. The 90-day trials indicated liver and kidney problems as a result of GMO foods. The kidney and liver findings actually were differentiated by sex with the kidneys being disrupted by 43.5 percent in male mammals and the liver being disrupted in female mammals by 30.8 percent. (6)
The kidneys and the liver are absolutely vital to our existence so ingesting a genetically modified food like canola oil is really not something to take lightly.
2. Life-Threatening Heart Trouble
As a monounsaturated oil, rapeseed oil has high levels of erucic acid. Erucic acid is a fatty acid that’s associated with heart damage, specifically Keshan disease, a disease that manifests itself with fibrotic lesions of the heart. Studies have shown that in areas where people are prone to Keshan, not only are selenium levels lower, but eurucic acid levels are higher. (7)
Partially hydrogenated vegetable oils like canola are also known for causing inflammation and calcification of arteries, which are well-established risk factors for coronary heart disease. (
3. Hypertension and Strokes
Previous studies have shown that the consumption of rapeseed oil and some other types of vegetable oils shortens the life span of stroke-prone and hypertensive animal subjects. Specifically, research carried out at the Nutrition and Toxicology Research Divisions of Ottawa discovered that rats bred to have high blood pressure and proneness to stroke died sooner when fed canola oil as the sole source of fat. Additionally, the rats fed the non-canola oil-based diets lived longer than the rats fed canola oil. (9)

Another study published in 2000 in Toxicology Letters specifically looked at the effects of canola oil on blood coagulation time or how long it takes blood to clot in stroke-prone animal subjects. The study found that there was a “canola oil-induced shortening of blood coagulation time and increased fragility in [red blood cell membranes],” which may promote the occurrence of strokes in animal subjects that are stroke-prone. (10)

4. May Retard Normal Growth
Up until recently, it was not legal to use canola oil in infant formulate. There have been what I think are valid concerns about canola oil retarding growth in children. Specifically, the euroric acid in canola oil is harmful to infants due to an inability to properly break it down. The FDA previously made the use of canola oil illegal in baby formula. However, as of  a few years ago, canola oil made it to the generally recognized as safe list. (11)
Not only is it highly concerning to feed developing infants a GMO oil, but it’s also highly questionable to give them unhealthy fats. Proponents brag about canola’s overall healthy fat profile, but I don’t buy it. Now it’s being sold in the form of a baby’s first meal. Of course, I highly encourage skipping the commercial formulas and opting for breastfeeding or, if necessary, homemade baby formula.

5. Increases Intake of Unhealthy Trans Fats
According to a study published in the Journal of Food Lipids, when soybean and canola oils purchased in the U.S. were evaluated, “The trans contents were between 0.56% and 4.2% of the total fatty acids.” (12)
When canola oil undergoes hydrogenation, which it often does to become a partially hydrogenated oil, this increases its level of trans fats. These are a group of fats you want to avoid as much as possible since they’re scientifically known to increase LDL cholesterol and lower HDL cholesterol.
When you read “partially hydrogenated oil” on any food label, that guarantees there is some amount of trans fat present. This is true even when the label tells you that there is zero trans fat. How can that be? Well, if a serving contains less than 0.5 grams, the company is allowed to indicate there are no trans fats. Frustrating, I know. (13)
Trans fatty acids are hazardous byproducts of food processing and are truly health destroyers. In fact, if you decide to get rid of your canola oil, I would also stop cooking with these oils as well: corn oil, safflower oil, soy oil and vegetable oil.
6. Numerous Potential GMO Health Side Effects
I already mentioned the link between GMOs and negative liver and kidney implications, but it doesn’t stop there. According to the Center for Food Safety, there are several new and very serious health concerns and unexpected effects of genetic engineering unearthed by scientific research: (14)
Toxicity
Allergic reactions
Immuno-suppression
Cancer
Loss of nutrition

[Primemuscle]

Because blacks have a poor ability of planning ahead. Evolutionary trait I guess. Living in the African continent food was plenty, sturdy shelters, clothes and means for transportation not really needed. So there was no natural selection where the resourceful/cerebral survived or reproduced at a greater extent.

Are you speaking of Africa during a previous era? I thought that today a lot of Africans were starving, dieing of various diseases not common in 1st world countries, living in huts  and where clothing is not needed, optional and scarce. Transportation isn't an issue because there's no place to go within the continent that's much better off. Perhaps Africans are poor at planning ahead because they see no future in their lives.

[Primemuscle]

Mecury! Mecury! You're all going to die of mercury poisoning!

There's too much information about food and health these days. When I was a kid, most people had no idea about food contaminants. And guess what, obesity was not as common. Most people were somewhat more active. Eating out was a treat and not the mainstay source of a meal.

Many people believe that the more they know about what's healthy and what's not and the more knowledge they have about diseases, prevention and new treatments, the better off they'll be. If this were so, than generally speaking, why are more people afflicted with something? IMO, commonsense gets lost in a sea of information and misinformation. I suspect hypochondria is more common today, so people who aren't even sick, imagine that they are. Negative thinking produces negative results. Positive thinking results in positive experiences.

[pellius]

Dude its a GMO Vegetable Oil

Dangers of Canola Oil
1. Kidney and Liver Problems
The majority of canola oil produced today is genetically modified. The side effects of GMOs in general cannot be overstated.
In a 2011 review published in Environmental Sciences Europe, 19 studies of mammals fed GMO soybeans and corn were evaluated. The 90-day trials indicated liver and kidney problems as a result of GMO foods. The kidney and liver findings actually were differentiated by sex with the kidneys being disrupted by 43.5 percent in male mammals and the liver being disrupted in female mammals by 30.8 percent. (6)
The kidneys and the liver are absolutely vital to our existence so ingesting a genetically modified food like canola oil is really not something to take lightly.
2. Life-Threatening Heart Trouble
As a monounsaturated oil, rapeseed oil has high levels of erucic acid. Erucic acid is a fatty acid that’s associated with heart damage, specifically Keshan disease, a disease that manifests itself with fibrotic lesions of the heart. Studies have shown that in areas where people are prone to Keshan, not only are selenium levels lower, but eurucic acid levels are higher. (7)
Partially hydrogenated vegetable oils like canola are also known for causing inflammation and calcification of arteries, which are well-established risk factors for coronary heart disease. (
3. Hypertension and Strokes
Previous studies have shown that the consumption of rapeseed oil and some other types of vegetable oils shortens the life span of stroke-prone and hypertensive animal subjects. Specifically, research carried out at the Nutrition and Toxicology Research Divisions of Ottawa discovered that rats bred to have high blood pressure and proneness to stroke died sooner when fed canola oil as the sole source of fat. Additionally, the rats fed the non-canola oil-based diets lived longer than the rats fed canola oil. (9)

Another study published in 2000 in Toxicology Letters specifically looked at the effects of canola oil on blood coagulation time or how long it takes blood to clot in stroke-prone animal subjects. The study found that there was a “canola oil-induced shortening of blood coagulation time and increased fragility in [red blood cell membranes],” which may promote the occurrence of strokes in animal subjects that are stroke-prone. (10)

4. May Retard Normal Growth
Up until recently, it was not legal to use canola oil in infant formulate. There have been what I think are valid concerns about canola oil retarding growth in children. Specifically, the euroric acid in canola oil is harmful to infants due to an inability to properly break it down. The FDA previously made the use of canola oil illegal in baby formula. However, as of  a few years ago, canola oil made it to the generally recognized as safe list. (11)
Not only is it highly concerning to feed developing infants a GMO oil, but it’s also highly questionable to give them unhealthy fats. Proponents brag about canola’s overall healthy fat profile, but I don’t buy it. Now it’s being sold in the form of a baby’s first meal. Of course, I highly encourage skipping the commercial formulas and opting for breastfeeding or, if necessary, homemade baby formula.

5. Increases Intake of Unhealthy Trans Fats
According to a study published in the Journal of Food Lipids, when soybean and canola oils purchased in the U.S. were evaluated, “The trans contents were between 0.56% and 4.2% of the total fatty acids.” (12)
When canola oil undergoes hydrogenation, which it often does to become a partially hydrogenated oil, this increases its level of trans fats. These are a group of fats you want to avoid as much as possible since they’re scientifically known to increase LDL cholesterol and lower HDL cholesterol.
When you read “partially hydrogenated oil” on any food label, that guarantees there is some amount of trans fat present. This is true even when the label tells you that there is zero trans fat. How can that be? Well, if a serving contains less than 0.5 grams, the company is allowed to indicate there are no trans fats. Frustrating, I know. (13)
Trans fatty acids are hazardous byproducts of food processing and are truly health destroyers. In fact, if you decide to get rid of your canola oil, I would also stop cooking with these oils as well: corn oil, safflower oil, soy oil and vegetable oil.
6. Numerous Potential GMO Health Side Effects
I already mentioned the link between GMOs and negative liver and kidney implications, but it doesn’t stop there. According to the Center for Food Safety, there are several new and very serious health concerns and unexpected effects of genetic engineering unearthed by scientific research: (14)
Toxicity
Allergic reactions
Immuno-suppression
Cancer
Loss of nutrition

Oh boy, so this is what it's come to.

All of life is a matter of degrees. You can find data on anything and find why it's bad for you. Broccoli contains arsenic. Do we now have to avoid broccoli? In my mid-20s, when I was more hardcore, I went through a year where all I ate for protein was fish. Canned tuna, Ahi, Swordfish... whatever. Eventually, I started to feel like crap. Always sluggish and nauseous. Turns out I was getting mercury poisoning. So then I turned to Tilapia and read how most of that fish is raised in a virtual cesspool of feces. So is Goodrum slowly killing himself because he eats Ahi regularly?

Then there's the supposed problems with too many eggs. I read where fruit, because it's primarily fructose, needs to be limited. Doesn't everything have to be limited? Including food itself? Are health and safety the primary concern above all else? Are you telling me that the reason you work out so hard and push yourself to your limits, and beyond, in the gym is because you want to be more healthy? You wouldn't be just as healthy, if not more healthy, if you had a more moderate routine? No, you do what you do not because it's healthy but because you want to look better. You want to look jacked. You will compromise your health purely for vanity. That can demonstrably be proven.

The one thing that has been proven beyond a doubt that will extend a person's lifespan is to cut calories. That just eating considerable less will make you more healthy and increase lifespan. Do you do that? No, you force feed yourself. Stuff yourself eating far more than you need to because you want to get bigger because you believe it will make you look better. Even if it didn't extend your life, force-feeding always makes you feel like crap; and being bigger, having bigger muscles, is just an added burden to your heart. But you do it for looks. And then there's your steroid use and the sunbathing/tanning salon neither which is doing your body any favors. But you do it to improve your looks. Physical appearance is one of the main things that define yourself and your self-image and you will do what it takes, even compromise your health, to get the look you want. You want to look impressive and win trophies and medals because of how your body looks. I get it. Being a competitive physique competitor is a huge sacrifice. But spare me the google copy and paste about the evils of the canola oil, maybe a teaspoon's worth in a small order of fries, and how I will die from it.

Again, the proof is in the pudding. I have blood pressure readings, regular blood tests, body composition  
feedback.

I just got back from the gym and McDonald's. Although I do a full body workout I added some extra leg work today. Traffic was a bit congested and some bastard just cut right in front of me. But I'm home now and I'm pleasantly fatigued but my blood pressure is still on point; heart rate a tad high for me but still well within specs, and legs feel like rubber. After decades of eating McD's fries and nearly 60 years old, I'm still waiting for all those dire warnings you gave me to kick in.

[pellius]

Also, it helps to put things in perspective. All these men are younger than I am. Also, in the last picture the guy seated to my right is two years younger than I am.

[pellius]

I will admit that I did tempt fate tonight. Because I did some extra leg work I decided to indulge myself and added the bacon McDouble to my QP with cheese instead of just a plain hamburger.

As that great 20 century thinker, Tom Cruise, said in the movie, "Risky Business", sometimes you just have to say "what the fuck."

Yeah, I pushed the envelop tonight.

You have to admit. They do present it nicely. That's the sterile hand wipe over on the top right corner.

[pellius]

Here it is after I ditch the buns on the McDouble and pile on the meat on the QP.

[pellius]

I almost forgot the best part. Fifty five grams of juicy protein for five bucks.

What a great country and the wonders of Capitalism!

God Bless America!

MAGA!

[DroppingPlates]

You buy all your meat straight from a farmer? Doesn't all meat come from a farm? Their beef comes from the same place that you get in a grocery store or restaurant. And fried food is bad? Why? Because it's fat? Fat is bad for you? Maybe excess fat. But the same applies to excess carbs and protein. Excess food is probably the biggest health concern in this country. But vegetable oil, unsaturated fat, is bad? I don't think so. I make sure I consume at least two tablespoons of Olive Oil everyday and mix it in all my meals because I want to lower the glycemic index of everything I eat (yes, I am a "Zone" diet fan).

And what makes you think I'm not concerned about my health? In my family, high blood pressure, high cholesterol and heart disease seems to get all of us in my family. Out of a family of nine I have thus far been spared any of these symptoms. Everyone else has either had heart attacks or on blood pressure and cholesterol med. Not me. I pay very close attention to what I eat. Beef isn't fake meat. Hot dogs, balogna... all process meats I stay away from. I also avoid refined sugar like the plague. Haven't drank a soft drink in years or touched alcohol in decades.

But of course the proof is in the pudding. I keep in go shape and lean enough to have visible abs year round. I also get a blood test every 3-4 months as part of my HRT regime and my lipid profile is on point. I get one this Monday. In addition, I check my blood pressure twice a day. Three times if convenient. This is the biggest risk marker for me so I'm on top of that and take supplements that does help (hint: cialis twice a week. Stimulates nitrix oxide and brought my blood pressure down a bit).

It's near noon here in Hawaii and I just took my blood pressure and also a snap shot of my lip profile take in April. Nothing has changed much if any over the years. You would think that at near 60 years old all the abuse you claim I have given my body would have shown up by now. (This, btw, has nothing to do with sport injuries which is a different issue all together and nothing to do with diet).

Now what about you? When was the last time you got a blood test and how did that go? Lets see a RECENT pic your abs so we can determine your body composition. Just like that guy lecturing about the evils of McDonald's there was nothing about him, with his belly spilling over his belt, that would indicate superior health and fitness.

I almost was going to say "meltdown!", but then I was acting as immature as you do

A couple of things...
- You're clearly a fan of MD and seem to defend and promote them as if it's your company. Hey, we get it, you like their food and there's nothing wrong with your personal preference.
- MD 'meat' has been processed with a lot of chemicals, not just salt. There are undercover documentaries to proof this.
- Stating that fried food isn't bad is a ridiculous statement. I'm not saying that all fat is bad, but you're actually eating 'dead food'.
- It's quite silly and immature to ask for pictures, my blood measurement, etc because I call you out on your junk food habits. It just shows me how sensitive and stubborn you are...

[pellius]

I almost was going to say "meltdown!", but then I was acting as immature as you do

A couple of things...
- You're clearly a fan of MD and seem to defend and promote them as if it's your company. Hey, we get it, you like their food and there's nothing wrong with your personal preference.
- MD 'meat' has been processed with a lot of chemicals, not just salt. There are undercover documentaries to proof this.
- Stating that fried food isn't bad is a ridiculous statement. I'm not saying that all fat is bad, but you're actually eating 'dead food'.
- It's quite silly and immature to ask for pictures, my blood measurement, etc because I call you out on your junk food habits. It just shows me how sensitive and stubborn you are...

No, it shows how wrong and uninformed you are and brain washed into this concept of junk food and now this notion of fried food being "dead" food. So if I bake a potato it's alive but if I fry it dies. OK.

Again, the proof is in the pudding. I'm older than you but I am healthier and in better shape than you are. If I'm wrong, prove it. Lets see what your blood pressure and heart rate is. Your lipid profile. Your body composition. I've proved I'm doing fine from eating "dead" food and not having to drive to a farm to buy my beef. Think of that when you look in the mirror and see that belt of flab on your belly that you can't get rid of.

It cracks me up how offended people get when I tell them I like eating at McDonald's and therefore I am a shill for Mcds and "promote" them. When have I told anybody that they should eat at McDonald's? Like I said, I don't even think they have the best food. I prefer BK, Jack-in-the-Box and Taco Bell food wise but it's the total package of price, convenience, cleanness, service, and those free sterile hand wipes.

[DroppingPlates]

No, it shows how wrong and uninformed you are and brain washed into this concept of junk food and now this notion of fried food being "dead" food. So if I bake a potato it's alive but if I fry it dies. OK.

Again, the proof is in the pudding. I'm older than you but I am healthier and in better shape than you are. If I'm wrong, prove it. Lets see what your blood pressure and heart rate is. Your lipid profile. Your body composition. I've proved I'm doing fine from eating "dead" food and not having to drive to a farm to buy my beef. Think of that when you look in the mirror and see that belt of flab on your belly that you can't get rid of.

It cracks me up how offended people get when I tell them I like eating at McDonald's and therefore I am a shill for Mcds and "promote" them. When have I told anybody that they should eat at McDonald's? Like I said, I don't even think they have the best food. I prefer BK, Jack-in-the-Box and Taco Bell food wise but it's the total package of price, convenience, cleanness, service, and those free sterile hand wipes.

If there's is one person in this 'debate' who is offended, then it's clearly YOU with your sea of words and asking for 'prove'  Heck, I don't care about your eating habits, but I was just calling you out for defending a junk food companies as if it's you're their CEO. You like their food, I get it. You don't consume too many calories, I also get that, but the health claims regarding their foods is just plain pathetic.

[pellius]

If there's is one person in this 'debate' who is offended, then it's clearly YOU with your sea of words and asking for 'prove'  Heck, I don't care about your eating habits, but I was just calling you out for defending a junk food companies as if it's you're their CEO. You like their food, I get it. You don't consume too many calories, I also get that, but the health claims regarding their foods is just plain pathetic.

Actually, no. It was you who criticized and attacked me. I was just defending myself. I never made any health claims about their food. You just made that up. A common tactic of someone who has no argument.

The difference between you and me is that I think and reason and ask and question if it makes sense. Food is compose of just three micro-nutrients and it has no idea where it came from. You just blindly follow the current trend. Are you still in the "egg yolks are bad" camp? I can tell you exactly what a bad diet is and foods to avoid and what will happen to you, and everybody, that follows it with real world -- real life examples. You can lecture me all you want about fried food being dead food but not really tell me what that is and what happens to your body if you eat a lot of fried food and show a direct causation. I can. Further more, any claims you make about the evils of fried food I can disprove with myself. I love fried food. When I'm not eating at McDonald's which I do just twice a week when I go to the gym because of convenience, I am eating plate lunches virtually everyday; and my favorite, which I'm sure Go4it is very familiar with and studiously avoids, is Chicken Katsu. Breaded chicken slices deep fried and serve with Katsu sauce (a type of barbeque sauce). Couple that with the thousands of bags of French fries that I have consumed for decades. When I go to KFC I always get the extra crispy. Deep fried at its best. At Taco Bell I get that deep fried Chalupa thingy.  Not a day goes by when I don't eat some kind of food that has been deep fried. All that dead food, and the ambiguous term "junk food" yet I'm pretty sure my lipid profile are better than yours, my blood pressure is consistently lower than yours, and I have less body fat than you do.

Now all of that would change in a matter of months, and it has, if I break a few simple (but not always easy) dietary rules that has adversely effected me, as it would you, as it would most everyone. And if those months turn into years then an early agonizing death is assured. And I see it everywhere, all around me. And all because of a bad diet.

And, I know, you will reply with the over use term "meltdown" which use to mean an angry post but now just means anything over three sentences. A reflection of the zero attention span of generation nothingness.

[DroppingPlates]

"It was you who criticized and attacked me."

There's a fundamental difference between criticizing and attacking someone's point of view and someone as a person. I feel bad for you that you're unable to make that distinction, but I won't lose sleep over it

Case closed and MD food is still crap

[pellius]

"It was you who criticized and attacked me."

There's a fundamental difference between criticizing and attacking someone's point of view and someone as a person. I feel bad for you that you're unable to make that distinction, but I won't lose sleep over it

Case closed and MD food is still crap

You can't expect quality for a single Dollar. You have the mindset of a homeless man. No one who cares about his health should eat fake meat and white bread.

I think like a "homeless man"?  I don't care about my health?

You talking to me?

Yet I'm still healthier and in better shape than you are and can think and reason for myself -- and back up and prove my claims instead of just blindly following the ever-changing trends and fads of the day.  But at least you didn't expound on the wonders of "organic". Lol!

[DroppingPlates]

I think like a "homeless man"?  I don't care about my health?

You talking to me?

Yet I'm still healthier and in better shape than you are and can think and reason for myself -- and back up and prove my claims instead of just blindly following the ever-changing trends and fads of the day.  But at least you didn't expound on the wonders of "organic". Lol!

Man, don't be so butt hurt, it might fuck up your estrogen levels

[chrisbro]

Hmmm i might just go to Burger King later. Have not been for a while. It´s the only time i drink cola too. However first i will Train chest & biceps. Then i will cycle to Burger king & get a Double wopper Thing,fries,cola. will i feel bad? like fuck i will 

[FitnessFrenzy]

Pellius, do you eat that meal without drinking?

I have to admit, I sometimes bring my own water to McD to save a few bucks. 

[chrisbro]

Pellius, do you eat that meal without drinking?

I have to admit, I sometimes bring my own water to McD to save a few bucks. 

[Vince B]

There is more crap in this thread than at fast food outlets.

Pellius is right and I support what he posts here.

Most bodybuilders do not think independently.

[Go 4 It]

Oh boy, so this is what it's come to.

All of life is a matter of degrees. You can find data on anything and find why it's bad for you. Broccoli contains arsenic. Do we now have to avoid broccoli? In my mid-20s, when I was more hardcore, I went through a year where all I ate for protein was fish. Canned tuna, Ahi, Swordfish... whatever. Eventually, I started to feel like crap. Always sluggish and nauseous. Turns out I was getting mercury poisoning. So then I turned to Tilapia and read how most of that fish is raised in a virtual cesspool of feces. So is Goodrum slowly killing himself because he eats Ahi regularly?

Then there's the supposed problems with too many eggs. I read where fruit, because it's primarily fructose, needs to be limited. Doesn't everything have to be limited? Including food itself? Are health and safety the primary concern above all else? Are you telling me that the reason you work out so hard and push yourself to your limits, and beyond, in the gym is because you want to be more healthy? You wouldn't be just as healthy, if not more healthy, if you had a more moderate routine? No, you do what you do not because it's healthy but because you want to look better. You want to look jacked. You will compromise your health purely for vanity. That can demonstrably be proven.

The one thing that has been proven beyond a doubt that will extend a person's lifespan is to cut calories. That just eating considerable less will make you more healthy and increase lifespan. Do you do that? No, you force feed yourself. Stuff yourself eating far more than you need to because you want to get bigger because you believe it will make you look better. Even if it didn't extend your life, force-feeding always makes you feel like crap; and being bigger, having bigger muscles, is just an added burden to your heart. But you do it for looks. And then there's your steroid use and the sunbathing/tanning salon neither which is doing your body any favors. But you do it to improve your looks. Physical appearance is one of the main things that define yourself and your self-image and you will do what it takes, even compromise your health, to get the look you want. You want to look impressive and win trophies and medals because of how your body looks. I get it. Being a competitive physique competitor is a huge sacrifice. But spare me the google copy and paste about the evils of the canola oil, maybe a teaspoon's worth in a small order of fries, and how I will die from it.

Again, the proof is in the pudding. I have blood pressure readings, regular blood tests, body composition  
feedback.

I just got back from the gym and McDonald's. Although I do a full body workout I added some extra leg work today. Traffic was a bit congested and some bastard just cut right in front of me. But I'm home now and I'm pleasantly fatigued but my blood pressure is still on point; heart rate a tad high for me but still well within specs, and legs feel like rubber. After decades of eating McD's fries and nearly 60 years old, I'm still waiting for all those dire warnings you gave me to kick in.

I mean it's great you have veins in your legs, but I confused how this has anything to do with Canola oil being a GMO Vegetable oil that is a contains transfat. Props for being in shape and if you enjoy McDonalds it's your life dude, but you can't deny the fact that the oil is toxic, and if they used lard (which they used to in the past) the meal would be even better. I'm glad that my ship uses lard for the standard oil, unless we are talking about our specialty restaurants were they use extra virgin olive oil, which again actually isn't that great to cook with.

[FitnessFrenzy]

I mean it's great you have veins in your legs, but I confused how this has anything to do with Canola oil being a GMO Vegetable oil that is a contains transfat. Props for being in shape and if you enjoy McDonalds it's your life dude, but you can't deny the fact that the oil is toxic, and if they used lard (which they used to in the past) the meal would be even better. I'm glad that my ship uses lard for the standard oil, unless we are talking about our specialty restaurants were they use extra virgin olive oil, which again actually isn't that great to cook with.

one of pellius' points, which I agree with, is that you get a lot of food and protein for how little mcdonalds costs. Few people on Getbig are professional athletes, and a little low quality cooking oil isn't going to damage your body much, even though I understand it is not optimum quality.

[Go 4 It]

one of pellius' points, which I agree with, is that you get a lot of food and protein for how little mcdonalds costs. Few people on Getbig are professional athletes, and a little low quality cooking oil isn't going to damage your body much, even though I understand it is not optimum quality.

It has nothing to do with being a professional athlete, put it this way, if you have a Ferrari would you put low octane gas in to it? Again it's your life do what you want to with it, is it cheap? Sure, but again you can buy a pound of 80/20 fresh ground beef for around $4.00. I just have a different outlook on nutrition I guess. I want to put foods into my system that will optimize my life, not just from an aesthetics perspective, but from a health/energy/well being perspective, the better you feel, the more energy you have will give you the ability to make the most out of you day and ultimately your life and have the ability to maximize your day, instead of just going to work, maybe hit the gym and then go to bed, or have to nap in the day. Life is short I don't want to feel tired or need to take a nap or feel too lazy to cook a meal or whatever. Why do you think coffee and energy drinks are so prevalent these days? Why are people so tired these days? Maybe take a look at what you are eating.

[FitnessFrenzy]

It has nothing to do with being a professional athlete, put it this way, if you have a Ferrari would you put low octane gas in to it? Again it's your life do what you want to with it, is it cheap? Sure, but again you can buy a pound of 80/20 fresh ground beef for around $4.00. I just have a different outlook on nutrition I guess. I want to put foods into my system that will optimize my life, not just from an aesthetics perspective, but from a health/energy/well being perspective, the better you feel, the more energy you have will give you the ability to make the most out of you day and ultimately your life and have the ability to maximize your day, instead of just going to work, maybe hit the gym and then go to bed, or have to nap in the day. Life is short I don't want to feel tired or need to take a nap or feel too lazy to cook a meal or whatever. Why do you think coffee and energy drinks are so prevalent these days? Why are people so tired these days? Maybe take a look at what you are eating.

I agree with a lot of what you say, and I just also enjoy the occasional junk food (taste wise). I generally feel better, and more energetic, when I eat healthy, but I want to pig out once in a while. I will not be 90 years old, on my death bed, thinking back on 90 years of chicken breast and broccoli.

In overall terms, most of my food is clean and healthy, but I am not going to completely cut out junk food, even though I know it is a healthier choice.

by the way, do you ever have cheat meals or junk food?

[Go 4 It]

I agree with a lot of what you say, and I just also enjoy the occasional junk food (taste wise). I generally feel better, and more energetic, when I eat healthy, but I want to pig out once in a while. I will not be 90 years old, on my death bed, thinking back on 90 years of chicken breast and broccoli.

In overall terms, most of my food is clean and healthy, but I am not going to completely cut out junk food, even though I know it is a healthier choice.

by the way, do you ever have cheat meals or junk food?

I just don't look at food that way, the last thing on my mind on my death bed looking back is I wish I ate more McDonalds or Crispy Crème, I enjoy meat I always have and I've always felt strong and powerful whenever I eat red meat -beef/steak. I've always felt like shit anytime I eat any junk cereal, fast food, ice cream, pizza...I don't like feeling like shit, so I don't eat it, what I guess you can consider my cheat is booze, I enjoy going to bars/clubs/restaurants so I will drink, but I get drunk super fast so it only takes a few for me to get a good buzz, I like Tequila, Vodka, Scotch, Bourbon, just on the rocks.