Questions for John Hansen, Were you ever tempted?

[IRON CROSS]

Yet more valid than theories from a fat man

Correction, UGLY FAT man 

[SF1900]

he's having a meltdown

And he cannot just bow out humbly.

[SF1900]

Why mention Albert Beckles? I never liked his biceps....big gap there.

Broscience = stuff you believe as fact when it is only anecdotal experience.

If your Bicep Supination Machine produces such great results, why has it not been picked up by major companies? 

[Dave D]

If your Bicep Supination Machine produces such great results, why has it not been picked up by major companies? 

Or at least show before and after pictures of biceps that have been changed.

[IRON CROSS]

basille was officially the best bodybuilder in canada and he was in the famous mentzer vs ahnold picture.

you flotsam better pipe down and take knowledge from a true golden era legend.

p.s. you guys can talk shit when you build and patent your own weight training machines.

a_pupil = V.B.


Weiders of Australian BB:

- Paul Graham
- Rocco Oppedisano
- Tony Doherty

[BB]

If your Bicep Supination Machine produces such great results, why has it not been picked up by major companies? 

It's an overly complicated vanity project.

Here's its story -

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"Here is the first image online of the biceps-supinator. This was invented by myself and built totally by myself in my engineering factory. I tried to sell the design to Nautilus and Cybex but they were not interested. So this machine has cost me over $100,000 to patent and build. Surely it is the most expensive machine ever installed in a gym.

This machine was conceived in 1986, and first conception on paper was in 1991. I obtained patents from the USA, Canada, Great Britain, Germany and Australia. You have to apply to each country. Then you have to pay thousands of dollars per year to maintain those patents.

I wouldn't patent anything in the future! I built the first version in 2001 and then modified it several times since. The last major surgery occurred last year. I am quite pleased with this machine. There are many adjustments and it really is a complex machine with lots of angles needed. It works, though! Lots of stainless steel on the prototype. I will paint it silver soon.

Even Arthur Jones was unable to build this machine. It is undoubtedly the most complicated bodybuilding machine with weight stacks that has ever been installed in a gym. When used properly it can result in an absolutely brutal biceps workouts. You can twist the arms and get a resistance. Each arm can be trained separately, too. The curl plates are 20 pounds and the supination plates are 5 1/2 pounds."


"Interesting to find my machine and a photo of it on the HIT site.

I found another invention of a machine that claims to do a similar thing.

I approached Nautilus and Cybex but neither were interested in the invention. It turned out to be a waste of money to patent. That isn't what you think when you go to a patent attorney. He said it would be about 10,000. That is a joke. Costs way more than that after everything goes through. Don't even think of patenting anything. Let someone else do it."


Taken from - http://www.drdarden.com/readTopic.do;jsessionid=108635224262976E945AE33660BD04BF.hydra?id=441355 .

[SF1900]

Or at least show before and after pictures of biceps that have been changed.

Maybe Vince can show us pictures of his biceps!

[SF1900]

It's an overly complicated vanity project.

Here's its story -

.

"Here is the first image online of the biceps-supinator. This was invented by myself and built totally by myself in my engineering factory. I tried to sell the design to Nautilus and Cybex but they were not interested. So this machine has cost me over $100,000 to patent and build. Surely it is the most expensive machine ever installed in a gym.

This machine was conceived in 1986, and first conception on paper was in 1991. I obtained patents from the USA, Canada, Great Britain, Germany and Australia. You have to apply to each country. Then you have to pay thousands of dollars per year to maintain those patents.

I wouldn't patent anything in the future! I built the first version in 2001 and then modified it several times since. The last major surgery occurred last year. I am quite pleased with this machine. There are many adjustments and it really is a complex machine with lots of angles needed. It works, though! Lots of stainless steel on the prototype. I will paint it silver soon.

Even Arthur Jones was unable to build this machine. It is undoubtedly the most complicated bodybuilding machine with weight stacks that has ever been installed in a gym. When used properly it can result in an absolutely brutal biceps workouts. You can twist the arms and get a resistance. Each arm can be trained separately, too. The curl plates are 20 pounds and the supination plates are 5 1/2 pounds."


"Interesting to find my machine and a photo of it on the HIT site.

I found another invention of a machine that claims to do a similar thing.

I approached Nautilus and Cybex but neither were interested in the invention. It turned out to be a waste of money to patent. That isn't what you think when you go to a patent attorney. He said it would be about 10,000. That is a joke. Costs way more than that after everything goes through. Don't even think of patenting anything. Let someone else do it."


Taken from - http://www.drdarden.com/readTopic.do;jsessionid=108635224262976E945AE33660BD04BF.hydra?id=441355 .

Haha lol

That thing looks atrocious. It looks like it belongs in a junkyard for scrap metal.

Maybe Goodrum would buy it from Basile.

[mazrim]

Maybe Vince can show us pictures of his biceps!

Not sure if you can upload pics that big.

[IRON CROSS]

Haha lol

That thing looks atrocious. It looks like it belongs in a junkyard for scrap metal.

Maybe Goodrum would buy it from Basile.

Just imagine transport cost of that junk from Sydney > LA or NY 


 

[SF1900]

Just imagine transport cost of that junk from Sydney > LA or NY 


 

Probably weighs a few hundred pounds in scrap metal.

Would cost a few grand to ship.

Would love to see Vince Goodrum pumping his biceps on Basiles machine.

[The Scott]

.

Sadly, this device looks like the answer to a question only one person (Vince B.) asked.   All that to do what is the equivalent of a dumbbell curl?  There's no doubt that Vince B. is far from stupid, but the reason exercise is not rocket science is because it doesn't need to be.  I think Gene Fisher made some good exercise equipment many years ago but none were as needlessly complicated as this device was/is.

[IRON CROSS]

Would love to see Vince Goodrum pumping his biceps on Basiles machine.

 
 
 

[Vince B]

Sadly, this device looks like the answer to a question only one person (Vince B.) asked.   All that to do what is the equivalent of a dumbbell curl?  There's no doubt that Vince B. is far from stupid, but the reason exercise is not rocket science is because it doesn't need to be.  I think Gene Fisher made some good exercise equipment many years ago but none were as needlessly complicated as this device was/is.

So much for the consensus theory of truth on Getbig. Nothing important is believed by the multitudes and they are collectively incapable of coming up with even one original idea let alone a new machine.

This is the first pin-loaded biceps machine that incorporates two degrees of freedom. Arthur Jones and Nautilus never built such a machine although Arthur wrote about having supination incorporated into a biceps machine. Is it any wonder that most here have no clue about the value and effectiveness of such a machine? These people reveal more about their limited thinking than anything about my machine.

[The Scott]

So much for the consensus theory of truth on Getbig. Nothing important is believed by the multitudes and they are collectively incapable of coming up with even one original idea let alone a new machine.

This is the first pin-loaded biceps machine that incorporates two degrees of freedom. Arthur Jones and Nautilus never built such a machine although Arthur wrote about having supination incorporated into a biceps machine. Is it any wonder that most here have no clue about the value and effectiveness of such a machine? These people reveal more about their limited thinking than anything about my machine.

Surely you jest?  Nay...Methinks you kid not. Sheesh...This is not a case of your "readership" here having limited thinking but instead one of you having an unlimited ego.  Well, not quite unlimited as it is obvious that reality contained it all too easily.   Unlike the "Field of Dreams", you built this and no one came.  Yes. It is kinda cool but no, it was overly complicated and projected cost was too much for gym owners to bear.  Choose your next words carefully VB, because it will not be any of us that makes you look like a fool, but as usual, it will be you.

[BB]

Reenactment of Vince trying to meet with Cybex and Nautilus about the Biceps Supinator -

.

[Vince B]

Surely you jest?  Nay...Methinks you kid not. Sheesh...This is not a case of your "readership" here having limited thinking but instead one of you having an unlimited ego.  Well, not quite unlimited as it is obvious that reality contained it all too easily.   Unlike the "Field of Dreams", you built this and no one came.  Yes. It is kinda cool but no, it was overly complicated and projected cost was too much for gym owners to bear.  Choose your next words carefully VB, because it will not be any of us that makes you look like a fool, but as usual, it will be you.

Where are the peers who can judge? What you, indeed.

[The Scott]

Where are the peers who can judge? What you, indeed.

Believe me when I say without reserve that you are quite common and therefor easily judged by all who come here.  In truth, Reeves would say...No.  No you don't deserve to know true wisdom, for doing so would make you aware of your disgusting ego.  Revealing your problem would not change you, it would only cause you to curl further into your hermit crab shell of an ego. 

Not even wild animals shit where they eat and sleep. But you?  As for your true peers, go look into a mirror and confront Gray's picture.  There is your peer.  And as you gaze upon your reflection give pause to note that it too, is alone in this world.

As for your machine?  Try making something worth having around.  Like a friend or two.  Ooops.  There goes some of the wisdom that was and remains, my friend John.

[Vince B]

Believe me when I say without reserve that you are quite common and therefor easily judged by all who come here.  In truth, Reeves would say...No.  No you don't deserve to know true wisdom, for doing so would make you aware of your disgusting ego.  Revealing your problem would not change you, it would only cause you to curl further into your hermit crab shell of an ego. 

Not even wild animals shit where they eat and sleep. But you?  As for your true peers, go look into a mirror and confront Gray's picture.  There is your peer.  And as you gaze upon your reflection give pause to note that it too, is alone in this world.

As for your machine?  Try making something worth having around.  Like a friend or two.  Ooops.  There goes some of the wisdom that was and remains, my friend John.

A few blokes here would be good friends. The rest....no thanks. Hope this helps.
I post here for a few laughs just like everyone else. Trouble is humour isn't that easy to detect unless vulgar.

[DroppingPlates]

Haha lol

That thing looks atrocious. It looks like it belongs in a junkyard for scrap metal.

Maybe Goodrum would buy it from Basile.

Not sure if this version from the Italian brand Panatta can be called a 'Basile Biceps Suplinator ™' but I had some good sessions with this one in a formal gym. There's almost no way that you can perform cheat curls.



Will Vince sue them?

[Vince B]

Panata and Technogym have biceps machines but no supination.

[DroppingPlates]

Panata and Technogym have biceps machines but no supination.

Would you sue them if they had a twisting handle?

[chrisbro]

If your Bicep Supination Machine produces such great results, why has it not been picked up by major companies? 

I had honestly never heard of this Vince guy until i read this thread. Really is a Buffoon. seems to have wasted a whole Lifetime on something that never went anywhere. I feel sorry for the man. 

[DooM_]

Sadly, this device looks like the answer to a question only one person (Vince B.) asked.   All that to do what is the equivalent of a dumbbell curl?  There's no doubt that Vince B. is far from stupid, but the reason exercise is not rocket science is because it doesn't need to be.  I think Gene Fisher made some good exercise equipment many years ago but none were as needlessly complicated as this device was/is.

preacher bench is probably the best for biceps anyway , was good enough for larry scott and steve reeves . . .

[Vince B]

preacher bench is probably the best for biceps anyway , was good enough for larry scott and steve reeves . . .

The epitome of broscience. Well done.