Jay Cutler - 45 years old - vs Steeve Reeves

[funk51]

Park was definitely a natural in his early years (late 1940s).

But in his later years?  Not likely.  Here he is competing against some of the best of all time. 

1971 NABBA Pro Universe...

Sergio (doper), Pearl (doper), Park (?)

near the start of park's bbing career he came to california to learn the tricks of the trade... if memory serves me correct he trained some with marvin eder.

[chrisbro]

near the start of park's bbing career he came to california to learn the tricks of the trade... if memory serves me correct he trained some with marvin eder.

what "tricks of the trade" ? utter rubbish. Park was a Champion in the UK & ran his own Magazine. Yes he came over to expand his Career but not to learn.

[The Scott]

near the start of park's bbing career he came to california to learn the tricks of the trade... if memory serves me correct he trained some with marvin eder.

You are correct because I've read some of Eder's words regarding that period of time (Eder lived on the East Coast) and Marvin said Park was one of the few who could not only train with but keep up with Eder's poundages.  Both men were incredibly powerful and I do not think they took any AAS.  I think the time period was the late 50s or early 60s.  

Park was a proud Brit and a great man to boot.  His son has written that his father denied using AAS and like Reeves, I believe the son because I believe his father to have been a man of honor.

Here is an excellent article on Marin Eder - http://ditillo2.blogspot.com/2009/03/marvin-eder-gene-mozee.html

[Devon97]

What type of TRT stack do you guys think Jay is on to maintain that size?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Park was definitely a natural in his early years (late 1940s).

But in his later years?  Not likely.  Here he is at age 43 competing and taking 3rd place against some of the best of all time.  

1971 NABBA Pro Universe...

Sergio (doper), Pearl (doper), Park (?)

I agree Park was natural for the majority of his career , got noticeably bigger in the 60s

[Europe]

I would 1000x prefer walk in Reeves shoes..

Jay looks lethargic, with a humour of a dead fish and dumb as rocks.. would gas if he climbed up on 1 floor stairs.

Meanwhile Reeves looks like a real Hombre, independent, ladies man, Alpha type..

Not one single prime famous pussy is throwing themselves at Jay.. except for MAYBE burned out fitness sluts in exchange for insta-followers.

Reeves could pick any Top famous pussy, he probably banged tons of famous actresses.

[Coach is Back!]

2018  and steve reeves at a similar age.

He looks great. Despite what everyone else thinks, I'm seeing maybe a little more than HRT dosages maybe 2-400mgs test and probably a little EQ. Sometimes you guys over exaggerate what you think some guys are on.

[6 Reps]

That is common practice in the majority of Sword & Sandal flicks.  To hear Reeves real voice, simply watch either the musical "Athena" or the Ed "The Weirdo" Wood film, "Jailbait".  In addition to those two movies, there are several examples of Reeves speaking on television, both Italian TV and American.  Steve Reeves possessed a deep, masculine voice that matched his physique.    He was injured (shoulder) during a scene in the filming of "The Last Days Of Pompei", which which was directed oddly enough, by Sergio Leoni.


Reeves (along with Sophia Loren) became the highest paid actor in Europe, earning approximately $350,000 per film.  He ultimately chose to retire early as he had lost a couple of acting friends (including Tyrone Power) who died very early in their lives.  I have no idea why he chose not to play the role of Leoni's "man with no name" but some say it was because he thought an Italian incapable of directing an American style western.  Regardless, he would have done well with the role but Clint Eastwood did great and owns those pictures completely.


I also think that Reeves lost a lot of money in the DotCom crash in the early 21st Century, but I could be wrong.  He also married for a third time but not much is known about the woman, Deborah Anne Englehorn.  If the photos appearing online of a very young woman and Steve are her, she was much younger than the Shape at the time of their marriage.  Steve's ranch in North San Diego County was sold but I haven't really looked into who the new owner is.   


Steve Reeves is without a doubt the finest example of a truly natural built physique.  Reg Park is up there too and those that think Reg doped need only look at him standing next to Arnold in the Mr. Universe.  Reg is well built but Arnold is...Well, he's Arnold and we all know what that means.  The Oak is the best built man of all time with the caveat that he took AAS.  Without AAS it is definitely Reeves.

Further on the subject of bodybuilders and movies and Reg Park, Park starred in one of the all-time best Hercules movies:

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[illuminati]

What type of TRT stack do you guys think Jay is on to maintain that size?

A Good One. 

[BSN]

Reg Park and Steve 

[The Scott]

A Good One. 

 

Probably in line with what a female to "male" tranny gets which I think is a gram a week of testosterone.  Ridiculous, huh?  But again, I'm happy for Jay reducing himself however so slight it may be, but he is nowhere near a Steve Reeves.  Too short.  Too fat.  Too much of a Jay Leno chin and to be honest, kinda not handsome at all. 

Reeves was a babe magnet.  Jay is more a schmoe fagnet. 

Could not resist using that last one, LOL!

[Julio Ceasar]

Still running 750 a week and we wont even comment on a 45 year old man wearing his hat backwards.

J

Cutler said on Rx muscle that he tried to downsize but he couldn't haha...maybe the 750 has something to do with it I guess...My first thought was, skip your needles...

[IroNat]

Cutler is an addict.

He's addicted to looking jacked.

His self-image and confidence is all dependent on his physique.

It's weak.

[chrisbro]

Cutler is an addict.

He's addicted to looking jacked.

His self-image and confidence is all dependent on his physique.

It's weak.

Seems a good dude in interviews. Real life who knows.

[IroNat]

Seems a good dude in interviews. Real life who knows.

I'm sure he's a good guy but he's still an addict who sticks needles in his ass.

[Taffin]

Seems a good dude in interviews. Real life who knows.

I'd never really listened to Jay speak much until now (I'm a bigger fan of his brother, Ray  )

Am I the only one who thinks Jay sounds a bit like Family Guy?  

 

[The Scott]

I'd never really listened to him speak much until now - am I the only one who thinks he sounds a bit like Family Guy? 

 

LOL!  Excellent!

[Griffith]

Cutler said on Rx muscle that he tried to downsize but he couldn't haha...maybe the 750 has something to do with it I guess...My first thought was, skip your needles...

If he stopped using at least testosterone, would his body recover after being on for so long?

[funk51]

Have never read this book but it always sounded interesting:

                  it's a good book well worth the read..

[IroNat]

If he stopped using at least testosterone, would his body recover after being on for so long?

Most likely his nuts fell off a while back, so no.

[funk51]

what "tricks of the trade" ? utter rubbish. Park was a Champion in the UK & ran his own Magazine. Yes he came over to expand his Career but not to learn.

             i'm not disrespecting park... he came over to see what was going on in the states..and see what he could find out what different techniques and equipment advancements they might have made..in england eveyone trained a pretty standard way at the time that's why park's routines and body stood out from the norm in england.

[stuntmovie]

KAHN, Thanks!

This is the photo of Reves (or damn close to it) that I had mentioned earlier about being so damn impressive back in them good old days.

I could be wrong here but to the best of my recollection it was shot by Arty Zeller over at Stenson Beach a few miles north of the San Francisco Bay Area in the early 50'.

I had to darken it up a bit in an attempt to make it look like the photo as originally published.

As you can see ... I was wrong about the sunset in the background.

[Kahn.N.Singh]

KAHN, Thanks!

This is the photo of Reves (or damn close to it) that I had mentioned earlier about being so damn impressive back in them good old days.

I could be wrong here but to the best of my recollection it was shot by Arty Zeller over at Stenson Beach a few miles north of the San Francisco Bay Area in the early 50'.

I had to darken it up a bit in an attempt to make it look like the photo as originally published.

My pleasure, Stunt.

Best,
Kahn

[stuntmovie]

KAHN, Where did you find that shot?