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« Reply #150 on: September 19, 2018, 10:38:02 PM »
Ford's lawyer apparently is OK with sexual assault as long as it's done by Democrats.

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Attorney Debra Katz made the rounds Monday on morning television to argue her client’s sexual misconduct allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh should be taken seriously, an appeal accepted even by the White House.

But while her client's claims have raised bipartisan concerns about Kavanaugh, Katz, a longtime Democratic donor known for representing sexual harassment accusers, also has a history of downplaying or dismissing accusations made by women against Democratic politicians -- including former President Bill Clinton and former Minnesota Sen. Al Franken.

“Paula Jones' suit is very, very, very weak,” Katz said on CNN’s “Talkback Live” in March 1998 in a discussion about Jones’ claims against Clinton, according to a show transcript. “She's alleged one incident that took place in a hotel room that, by her own testimony, lasted 10 to 12 minutes. She suffered no repercussions in the workplace.”

Jones, who worked as a government employee in Arkansas, accused Clinton, while governor of Arkansas in 1991, of propositioning her for sex. Clinton settled a lawsuit with Jones in 1998.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/17/lawyer-for-kavanaugh-accuser-downplayed-sexual-misconduct-allegations-against-clinton-franken.html


An expert dismisses the polygraph's significance:

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/this-is-the-most-meaningless-proof-of-christine-fords-truthfulness-out-there-right-now/

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #151 on: September 20, 2018, 04:10:11 AM »
Hard to take someone who is 1 Kwon out of 3 serious but ok

I said from day one, I lean towards her being truthful because of a few reasons.  No one I know of has fabricated a lie that includes a best friend of the accused being present. The risk is too great that Bros before Hoes would come into play. No, most people fabricating this story would say he pushed me in the room and we were alone. But I have said I don't know if this happened or not. My stance is, it should be looked into as part of the background investigation into a Supreme Court Nominee

What do you think about her declining the opportunity to testify and tell her story?  How is an FBI investigation going to change what she has to say?  Her response seems suspicious.

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #153 on: September 20, 2018, 07:21:19 AM »
KAVANAUGH ACCUSER’S CLASSMATE BACKS OFF CLAIM SHE HEARD ABOUT ALLEGED ASSAULT


A classmate of Dr. Christine Blasey Ford is backing off of claims that she knew anything about an alleged sexual assault committed by Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

Cristina King Miranda, who attended high school with Ford, wrote on Facebook this week that she heard school rumors about an incident involving Kavanaugh and Ford back in the 1980s. Miranda later deleted the post and said she did not want to talk to the media about her claims.

However, Miranda spoke to NPR on Thursday and clarified that she has no information about an alleged assault.

“That it happened or not, I have no idea,” Cristina King Miranda told NPR’s Nina Totenberg. “I can’t say that it did or didn’t.”


Miranda’s new statement directly contradicts her Facebook post, in which she wrote, “The incident DID happen, many of us heard about it in school.”

“In my post, I was empowered and I was sure it probably did [happen],” Miranda told NPR this morning. “I had no idea that I would now have to go to the specifics and defend it before 50 cable channels and have my face spread all over MSNBC news and Twitter.”

Miranda said the Senate Judiciary Committee reached out to her after her post but that she would not testify if asked.

Dr. Ford previously said she had not told anyone about the incident until a therapist meeting in 2012. Ford also said the incident happened during the summer, contradicting Miranda’s assertion that she heard rumors about it in school.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/20/kavanaugh-accuser-classmate-backs-off/

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #154 on: September 20, 2018, 07:50:48 AM »


"Hillary Clinton is drawn to it like a bear to donuts"  LOL  ;D
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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #155 on: September 20, 2018, 08:31:43 AM »
Has Fox and Friends shown the videos of Orrin Hatch and Chuck Grassley back in 1991 saying how when the Chairman and ranking members of the Judiciary committee learned of Anita's Hills claims that the the "FBI was immediately ordered to conduct and investigation" and that it was the "very right" and "appropriate thing to do" and that investigation was done before the Judiciary Committee voted

If you missed this on Fox and Friends (or maybe they didn't show it) you can see it right here.

Get ready for some good old fashioned Republican Hypocrisy:

https://twitter.com/SenateDems/status/1042481401755561985

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #156 on: September 20, 2018, 09:35:26 AM »
What do you do for a living? I'm a retired police Commander
I have seen proof that backs up this claim.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #157 on: September 20, 2018, 10:06:01 AM »
Has Fox and Friends shown the videos of Orrin Hatch and Chuck Grassley back in 1991 saying how when the Chairman and ranking members of the Judiciary committee learned of Anita's Hills claims that the the "FBI was immediately ordered to conduct and investigation" and that it was the "very right" and "appropriate thing to do" and that investigation was done before the Judiciary Committee voted

If you missed this on Fox and Friends (or maybe they didn't show it) you can see it right here.

Get ready for some good old fashioned Republican Hypocrisy:

https://twitter.com/SenateDems/status/1042481401755561985

Thomas was a federal employee during the time of Hill's accusations, not a 36 year old vague memory of a 15 year old in high school.

"Throughout his confirmation process, Judge Kavanaugh has had 65 meetings with senators- including with Sen. Feinstein -- sat through over 30 hours of testimony, addressed over 2,000 questions in a public setting and additional questions in a confidential session. Not until the eve of his confirmation has Sen. Feinstein or anyone raised the specter of new 'information' about him," said White House spokeswoman Kerri Kupec. "

Take the burlap off your head.  ::)  Even a blind man can see this is nothing more than a last minute delay tactic.

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #158 on: September 20, 2018, 10:10:22 AM »
Thomas was a federal employee during the time of Hill's accusations, not a 36 year old vague memory of a 15 year old in high school.

"Throughout his confirmation process, Judge Kavanaugh has had 65 meetings with senators- including with Sen. Feinstein -- sat through over 30 hours of testimony, addressed over 2,000 questions in a public setting and additional questions in a confidential session. Not until the eve of his confirmation has Sen. Feinstein or anyone raised the specter of new 'information' about him," said White House spokeswoman Kerri Kupec. "

Take the burlap off your head.  ::)  Even a blind man can see this is nothing more than a last minute delay tactic.



They would be investing a claim against Kavanaugh

It's common practice for the FBI to do background checks and investigations on judicial nominees and many other federal employees and this is no different.


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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #159 on: September 20, 2018, 10:40:01 AM »
They would be investing a claim against Kavanaugh

It's common practice for the FBI to do background checks and investigations on judicial nominees and many other federal employees and this is no different.



Which was completed.

It wasn't until the 11th hour they decided to throw this out there in a last ditch attempt to DELAY the process.  They know it's bogus otherwise they would've "leaked" it 6 weeks earlier during the confirmation process.
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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #160 on: September 20, 2018, 11:33:01 AM »
Which was completed.

It wasn't until the 11th hour they decided to throw this out there in a last ditch attempt to DELAY the process.  They know it's bogus otherwise they would've "leaked" it 6 weeks earlier during the confirmation process.


And now they can open it back up to investigate new information.

It only took the FBI 3 days to investigate Anita Hills allegations

I know that's the right wing spin but the facts are that she talked this both publicly and privately (which is documented with notes from her therapist) prior to Kavanaugh ever being nominated   After he was nominated she contacted the WAPO tip line and her state rep (Anna Eshoo) and then at some point wrote a letter which was passed from Eshoo to Diane Feinstein who sat on it because Blasey-Ford was not willing to go public.   She also passed a lie detector test.

Turns out she had good reason to fear going public because since she has she's been threatened, had her email hacked and has had to flee her home and to hire private security to protect her and her family.
I suspect it's not Democrats who are causing her family these problems.

There is no deadline or time requirement for a judicial nominee.  

There is no reason to rush.  We went almost a year without a ninth justice.

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« Reply #161 on: September 20, 2018, 01:31:17 PM »
And now they can open it back up to investigate new information.

It only took the FBI 3 days to investigate Anita Hills allegations

I know that's the right wing spin but the facts are that she talked this both publicly and privately (which is documented with notes from her therapist) prior to Kavanaugh ever being nominated   After he was nominated she contacted the WAPO tip line and her state rep (Anna Eshoo) and then at some point wrote a letter which was passed from Eshoo to Diane Feinstein who sat on it because Blasey-Ford was not willing to go public.   She also passed a lie detector test.

Turns out she had good reason to fear going public because since she has she's been threatened, had her email hacked and has had to flee her home and to hire private security to protect her and her family.
I suspect it's not Democrats who are causing her family these problems.

There is no deadline or time requirement for a judicial nominee.  

There is no reason to rush.  We went almost a year without a ninth justice.

The bitch is fraud and a liar. She got given the chance to talk and pussied out, like all liberals do when their bluff gets called. Threats? Well, she should've thought about that before writing a letter to a liberal newspaper, begging her state rep. to listen to her story, and trumpeting it across the world once her identity got exposed (which is what she really wanted, otherwise she wouldn't have done this). I mean really, you want a derail a SCOTUS nominee of all things and remain in the shadows? That's not going to happen. She knew that, which is why when her name got leaked, she had a polygraph and several lawyers ready and waiting. But now she can't deliver. Typical liberal.

And don't worry about her security, she got $55,000 from angry snowflakes on Twitter (I'm sure you contributed) to do whatever she wants with. That's more than the average American auto worker makes in a year. She just got a huge jackpot for doing nothing besides smearing an innocent man. Why would anyone listen to what she has to say at this point? Anita Hill testified before the FBI investigation publicly. This whore isn't saying a word.

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #162 on: September 20, 2018, 01:33:50 PM »
The bitch is fraud and a liar. She got given the chance to talk and pussied out, like all liberals do when their bluff gets called. Threats? Well, she should've thought about that before writing a letter to a liberal newspaper, begging her state rep. to listen to her story, and trumpeting it across the world once her identity got exposed (which is what she really wanted, otherwise she wouldn't have done this). I mean really, you want a derail a SCOTUS nominee of all things and remain in the shadows? That's not going to happen. She knew that, which is why when her name got leaked, she had a polygraph and several lawyers ready and waiting. But now she can't deliver. Typical liberal.

And don't worry about her security, she got $55,000 from angry snowflakes on Twitter (I'm sure you contributed) to do whatever she wants with. That's more than the average American auto worker makes in a year. She just got a huge jackpot for doing nothing besides smearing an innocent man. Why would anyone listen to what she has to say at this point? Anita Hill testified before the FBI investigation publicly. This whore isn't saying a word.

Hill testified AFTER the FBI investigation

From your obvious anger I wouldn't be surprised if you're one of the people who sent death threats

Seems like something a world class pussy like you would do

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« Reply #163 on: September 20, 2018, 01:38:17 PM »
Hill testified AFTER the FBI investigation

From your obvious anger I wouldn't be surprised if you're one of the people who sent death threats

Seems like something a world class pussy like you would do
Again with the straw men. She spoke to many, many people about it before the FBI got involved. That is testimony. It doesn't need to be before a senate committee. There was plenty of evidence that Thomas was more guilty than this joke of a story against Kavanaugh, an alcohol- and drug-induced haze from 36 years ago denied by everyone from her friends to the other guy in the room to the guy accused, etc.

I don't need to threaten someone who's clearly mental and is the laughing stock of the entire conservative establishment. Even princess l doesn't believe him. When women doubt you, you've got problems.

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #164 on: September 20, 2018, 01:59:05 PM »
I'm actually thinking Sotomayor might go before the Notorious RBG.

Well she's definitely the wild card in all of this with that serious health scare plus shoulder injury she sustained.

"The life expectancy of type 1 diabetes patients has been reported in earlier research to be 20 years shorter than a normal individual."

https://www.redorbit.com/type-1-diabetes-life-expectancy/

If Trump gets that second term, could he possibly replace Ginsburg, Breyer AND Sotomayor?? Maybe Brother Thomas hands in the gavel as well?

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #165 on: September 20, 2018, 02:07:03 PM »
And now they can open it back up to investigate new information.

It only took the FBI 3 days to investigate Anita Hills allegations

I know that's the right wing spin but the facts are that she talked this both publicly and privately (which is documented with notes from her therapist) prior to Kavanaugh ever being nominated   After he was nominated she contacted the WAPO tip line and her state rep (Anna Eshoo) and then at some point wrote a letter which was passed from Eshoo to Diane Feinstein who sat on it because Blasey-Ford was not willing to go public.   She also passed a lie detector test.

Turns out she had good reason to fear going public because since she has she's been threatened, had her email hacked and has had to flee her home and to hire private security to protect her and her family.
I suspect it's not Democrats who are causing her family these problems.

There is no deadline or time requirement for a judicial nominee.  

There is no reason to rush.  We went almost a year without a ninth justice.

Documented as 4 perps  ::)  Oh wait, that was a mistake  ::)  If we're going to use the therapist's notes as evidence, then ALL of the notes on that patient should be open to scrutiny because such a traumatic event would certainly come up more than just one therapy session.

Reopen the investigation.  While they're at it, they can investigate every blowjob she's performed over the last 36 years.

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« Reply #166 on: September 20, 2018, 02:10:25 PM »
Documented as 4 perps  ::)  Oh wait, that was a mistake  ::)  If we're going to use the therapist's notes as evidence, then ALL of the notes on that patient should be open to scrutiny because such a traumatic event would certainly come up more than just one therapy session.

Reopen the investigation.  While they're at it, they can investigate every blowjob she's performed over the last 36 years.


That might strengthen her case, though. We know how ridiculous and pathetic some men can be when a woman openly admits she enjoys sex. Even senators Graham and Hatch might vote against Kavanaugh in light of that new evidence if she promises to visit them in their private offices after the hearing.  ;)

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #167 on: September 20, 2018, 02:13:33 PM »
Wow, even Cokie Roberts is telling Ms. Ford to put up or shut up.  :o

Ford made her choice. Now she needs to tell her story to the Senate: COLUMN
By COKIE ROBERTS

Sep 20, 2018, 5:06 AM ET

Christine Blasey Ford has either developed a case of cold feet or she’s playing footsie with the Democrats. Neither one of those options is useful if she wants to stop Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation to the Supreme Court.

It would certainly be understandable if Ford decided not to go through the brutal spectacle of a committee hearing. Since she’s told her story, she and her family say they have been subjected to what must be terrifying insults and threats.


Any woman in the public eye can tell you about that.

In this age of anonymous Twitter postings, a brief appearance on TV can elicit the most hateful and misogynistic messages, some of them downright frightening. So, I can imagine how awful the missives headed Ford’s way must be.

But she made the choice to reveal her identity, knowing that it would upend her life. Now, she needs to tell her story to the people who will decide whether Brett Kavanaugh ascends to the Supreme Court -- the members of the United States Senate.

Absent that, she has put herself and her family in harm’s way to no end.




It would certainly be understandable if Ford decided not to go through the brutal spectacle of a committee hearing. Since she’s told her story, she and her family say they have been subjected to what must be terrifying insults and threats.


Any woman in the public eye can tell you about that.

In this age of anonymous Twitter postings, a brief appearance on TV can elicit the most hateful and misogynistic messages, some of them downright frightening. So, I can imagine how awful the missives headed Ford’s way must be.

But she made the choice to reveal her identity, knowing that it would upend her life. Now, she needs to tell her story to the people who will decide whether Brett Kavanaugh ascends to the Supreme Court -- the members of the United States Senate.

Absent that, she has put herself and her family in harm’s way to no end.

If Ford’s lawyers are insisting on an FBI investigation in the hopes of finding some corroborating evidence of a decades-old alleged crime, that’s again understandable, but highly unlikely to happen.

And if they are taking that tack because the Democrats want to delay the confirmation process in the hopes of jettisoning Kavanaugh and energizing female voters, that’s likely to backfire.

As it is, some Republicans who had said they needed to hear from the accuser before they would vote, are now getting restless, saying that she’s been invited to testify in any way that’s comfortable for her -- in private or public, with senators or staff—and that she should do so.

The Democrats’ insistence that the Kavanaugh nomination is being railroaded sounds like politics as usual, rather than concern for a wronged woman. Perhaps they hope that the longer they string this out, the more unlikely it will be for the president to restrain his Twitter finger and that he will say something to outrage women voters.

Some Republicans in the Senate are already stepping onto treacherous terrain by suggesting that Ford is “mixed up” or “confused.” Give them a few more days and who knows what they might say.

But so far, they and the White House have, by and large, played it smart. They have repeatedly stated that Ford be respected and heard. They have focused their fire on Democrats -- not her. And as the week has progressed, and no other woman or fellow high-school partygoer has come forward, they have renewed their support for Kavanaugh, who has unblinkingly denied the allegations.

If Ford took this life-altering step because she believes that Brett Kavanaugh should not serve on the Supreme Court, then she must come forward to tell that to the Senate. And then it will be up to the members to decide what to do.

As it is now, without her testimony, it is almost certain that Judge Kavanaugh will soon become Justice Kavanaugh.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/christine-blasey-ford-made-choice-now-story-senate/story?id=57932425

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« Reply #168 on: September 20, 2018, 02:18:05 PM »
When women start doubting your story, you're finished. I'm not implying women can't be objective and judge a case on its merits, but the trend on Twitter at the moment is overwhelming support for her by women who don't know her or anything about her case besides what they've been spoon fed in the MSM and through retweets by their followers (#standwithchristine, #ibelievechristine, #stopkavanaugh, etc....). It's fair to say, on average, most women will give another woman the benefit of the doubt, which is why most companies hire them in HR and why women prefer to talk to another woman about sexual assault than to a man. Totally understandable and fair.

But their support is conditional. If you can't prove anything you said and the man being accused is an otherwise decent, righteous person - which justice Kavanaugh is - then eventually those women will start to worry that you're hurting their cause and their image by dragging all of them into your story and discrediting the suffering or reporting by real victims of abuse. And if you're not humble and stick with your story even when it's unprovable, they will eventually turn against you. Then you're done.

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #169 on: September 20, 2018, 02:26:54 PM »
When does he get voted in.

Enough of the silly bollocks nonsense
The democrats have tried everything to stop him
And now this with this woman who’s kept silent until
The 11th hour and none of her witnesses back her claims.

Says it all - End Of.

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« Reply #170 on: September 20, 2018, 02:29:09 PM »
When does he get voted in.

Enough of the silly bollocks nonsense
The democrats have tried everything to stop him
And now this with this woman who’s kept silent until
The 11th hour and none of her witnesses back her claims.

Says it all - End Of.

Well said!

She's doing tremendous damage to the cause of women victims everywhere by making a parody of what assault is really all about. "I...might've been pinned down...by a man who I think is this man being nominated for the highest court in the country...my memory is blurry...I can't remember when or where this happened, or what year, or who else was involved...I am sure it was him, though. Please believe me."

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #171 on: September 20, 2018, 02:33:08 PM »
"The FBI has said it is not investigating"

"Christine Blasey Ford, a psychology professor at Palo Alto University in California, has been given a Friday deadline to decide whether to testify before the Judiciary Committee"

A lawyer for the woman accusing Brett Kavanaugh, President Donald Trump's U.S. Supreme Court nominee, of sexual assault told a Senate panel the professor would be willing to testify next week if it provides "terms that are fair and which ensure her safety," an email obtained by U.S. media on Thursday showed.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/deadline-looms-accuser-trumps-supreme-court-nominee-145956468.html

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« Reply #172 on: September 20, 2018, 02:36:48 PM »
"The FBI has said it is not investigating"

"Christine Blasey Ford, a psychology professor at Palo Alto University in California, has been given a Friday deadline to decide whether to testify before the Judiciary Committee"

A lawyer for the woman accusing Brett Kavanaugh, President Donald Trump's U.S. Supreme Court nominee, of sexual assault told a Senate panel the professor would be willing to testify next week if it provides "terms that are fair and which ensure her safety," an email obtained by U.S. media on Thursday showed.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/deadline-looms-accuser-trumps-supreme-court-nominee-145956468.html

That was already provided since last week. This is a classic stalling tactic: Agree to something, back out, agree to come back in if your impossible conditions are met, get shut down over it, then agree to do it under the same proposal you were offered in the first place. I predict she won't testify. Cowards never follow through in the end, it would expose them for the fraud they are.

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Re: Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public
« Reply #173 on: September 20, 2018, 02:38:31 PM »
Liberals gone off the deep end.


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« Reply #174 on: September 20, 2018, 02:40:28 PM »
Well said!

She's doing tremendous damage to the cause of women victims everywhere by making a parody of what assault is really all about. "I...might've been pinned down...by a man who I think is this man being nominated for the highest court in the country...my memory is blurry...I can't remember when or where this happened, or what year, or who else was involved...I am sure it was him, though. Please believe me."

Ha - Yes Please Believe Her.
Fat chance of that her story’s got more holes in it Bin Laden’s body had.
It’s a setup it’s fake it’s dems clutching at straws.

Like I said previously it’s a load of old Bollocks
The Gullible liberal leftist Muppets Like ‘StrawWeight’ on here (as he’s not even a Lightweight)
Will fall for it & Clamour all over it.  ::)
Pathetic Specimen.