Kavanaugh's accuser from 38 years ago goes public

[Agnostic007]

We’re getting in to semantics here and going nowhere
It should of been a criminal trial and all her accusations would of been
Investigated & and his answers also
And The jury would come up with a decision
As this isn’t going to happen it’s all what ifs.
And pointless.

You believe her & I Don’t.

I think for her purpose, it was brought to the right place. She was just mistaken that they would care.

[Kwon3]

Lying under oath is a thing. It's a big thing. But not recently. I don't want a SCJ that I know lies under oath sitting on the bench. But that's just me

The SENATE had the final say over whether he lied or not, and whether he was fit or not. It had far more power than the FBI, which as Biden eloquently put it in 1991, does NOT reach conclusions. Senators do. And the senate spoke. They approved him and that's all that matters.

[Kwon3]

I think for her purpose, it was brought to the right place. She was just mistaken that they would care.

She could buy you four new houses in Florida thanks to her letter.

[Agnostic007]

You're doing this on purpose to trigger us and you're succeeding because you're insulting our intelligence and the way law enforcement works because you don't like this guy. And then you have the nerve to deny it and act like we're the ones who are out of touch with the situation. It's silly. Let liars be lairs, let rape victims be rape victims. Live a wonderful life.

Man I am sorry. I didn't realize you were the victim here. I will try and say things you agree with more often so you won't feel compelled to act like that

[Kwon3]

Man I am sorry. I didn't realize you were the victim here. I will try and say things you agree with more often so you won't feel compelled to act like that

You don't have to agree with me or Illuminati. You do have to respect the FBI and our Senate confirmation process if you care about this country as much as you say you do. You're putting a nobody out of nowhere on a pedestal and elevating her to the same status as a federal circuit court judge. That's absurd.

[illuminati]

Lying under oath is a thing. It's a big thing. But not recently. I don't want a SCJ that I know lies under oath sitting on the bench. But that's just me

Hey I dont Want Cops Lying / Planting evidence / turning a blind eye / switching off body cameras / Shooting / beating Innocent People / Etc etc & They’re all under Oath - But That’s Just Me.  

[Agnostic007]

You don't have to agree with me or Illuminati. You do have to respect the FBI and our Senate confirmation process if you care about this country as much as you say you do. You're putting a nobody out of nowhere on a pedestal and elevating her to the same status as a federal circuit court judge. That's absurd.

I'm just saying.. and forgive me for being so ludicrous.. that FOR ME... lying under oath should disqualify you from being a Supreme Court Justice.. a school superintendent., a police officer, a whole host of positions where people depend on your integrity to make decisions about them

[Kwon3]

Hey I dont Want Cops Lying / Planting evidence / turning a blind eye / switching off body cameras / Shooting / beating Innocent People / Etc etc & They’re all under Oath - But That’s Just Me.  

They do that stuff all the time.

[Kwon3]

I'm just saying.. and forgive me for being so ludicrous.. that FOR ME... lying under oath should disqualify you from being a Supreme Court Justice.. a school superintendent., a police officer, a whole host of positions where people depend on your integrity to make decisions about them

Everybody lies. Every President we've had did. How about we just fire everyone and get it over with.

[Agnostic007]

They do that stuff all the time.

and it's ok with you? Because that's pretty much what you have said

[Kwon3]

and it's ok with you? Because that's pretty much what you have said

Yeah, it is. Because for every bad deed they do, they do 50 good ones. They keep us safe, even if they get a blowjob from a prostitute in their car in an alley to avoid taking her to jail for the bag of coke in her purse.

[Agnostic007]

Everybody lies. Every President we've had did. How about we just fire everyone and get it over with.

I can't believe we are really arguing about this.. in your mind it is no big deal that he lied under oath because everybody does... I'm not there yet.

[illuminati]

I think for her purpose, it was brought to the right place. She was just mistaken that they would care.

Her purpose was Dirty Tactics as we’d seen all along to stop him getting nominated
They Thought it was Going to be Their Trump Card - Only it wasn’t
It was Trumps Trump Card That Won.

[Kwon3]

I can't believe we are really arguing about this.. in your mind it is no big deal that he lied under oath because everybody does... I'm not there yet.

I forget sometimes that your second career as a monk has placed a great burden on your shoulders and redefined your relationship with the truth in a way that makes everyone compromised because they talk some shit that isn't true every now and then.  

[Kwon3]

Her purpose was Dirty Tactics as we’d seen all along to stop him getting nominated
They Thought it was Going to be Their Trump Card - Only it wasn’t
It was Trumps Trump Card That Won.

nah that was her purpose at first
later, when it became profitable, it was all about the money
she didn't just get a million off the idiocy of the donating public
she got millions from liberal billionaires like soros as well
don't worry, she can retire early thanks to this publicity stunt

[illuminati]

and it's ok with you? Because that's pretty much what you have said

And it’s okay with you
As you’re always quick to defend them and point out any little subtleties
That may protect / help clear them.
We don’t see you on you’re high horse condemning them.

Double standards or what.

[Kwon3]

And it’s okay with you
As you’re always quick to defend them and point out any little subtleties
That may protect / help clear them.
We don’t see you on you’re high horse condemning them.

Double standards or what.

If this is how he did his job as a sexual assault victims investigator, I shiver for the men accused by the women he dealt with. The way he talks it sounds like he's about ready to get in bed with them.

[Kwon3]

Agnostic's favorite show gets it right.

[illuminati]

If this is how he did his job as a sexual assault victims investigator, I shiver for the men accused by the women he dealt with. The way he talks it sounds like he's about ready to get in bed with them.

I like Agnostic & though I’ve crossed verbal swords many times with him
I’ve appreciated & even learnt from some of his answers.

Sadly now some of his responses recently I find very troubling
For him to say some of the things he has it does bring into
Question his policing -
He’s now become psychic & Judge & jury in some of his answers

Not the reasoned rational Agnostic of previous.

[Dos Equis]

It's 38 years old. The only eye witness other than the suspect is the suspects best friend. It's an unwinnable case. Doesn't mean it didn't happen. Just means it can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.  The Judicial hearing wasn't a court room and there is no reasonable doubt standard. She wanted them to know what he did to her when he was 17.

Oh please.  As Senator Collins explained, it couldn’t be proven based on a preponderance.  That’s 50 percent plus a feather.

She had zero contemporary corroborating evidence.  Rachel Mitchell nailed it. 

[Dos Equis]

We've been over this already over a month.

He claims it'll never happen because he never did anything wrong. But if it does, he'll call on an ex-colleague of his, a female detective with a lot of experience, who'll be his character reference. If that doesn't cut it, all his ex-coworkers will pitch in. And if that's not enough, his years as a sexual assault survivor team member will surely convince skeptics that he couldn't possibly be guilty, since cops who hunt predators are never predators themselves.

I got news for him. When they're ready for your white ass, even a 30 year career in law enforcement can't help you. A few accusations later, you're grimy and fit for an orange jumpsuit in the eyes of the community, whether true or not.

Did he say that?  Incredibly naive.

[Dos Equis]

His word doesn't mean dick around these parts. Straw Man's credibility is bulletproof by comparison.

Uh, no.  Lol

[Dos Equis]

I like Agnostic & though I’ve crossed verbal swords many times with him
I’ve appreciated & even learnt from some of his answers.

Sadly now some of his responses recently I find very troubling
For him to say some of the things he has it does bring into
Question his policing -
He’s now become psychic & Judge & jury in some of his answers

Not the reasoned rational Agnostic of previous.

I don’t think it’s fair to criticize his profession, but he has definitely become a left wing liberal on this board. 

[chaos]

Everybody lies. Every President we've had did. How about we just fire everyone and get it over with.

Fire them or overthrow them. Nothing wrong with a little chaos every now and then.

As far as lies in government, lol @ acting offended by it, government officials have been lying since the invention of government and it won't change.

[illuminati]

I don’t think it’s fair to criticize his profession, but he has definitely become a left wing liberal on this board. 

I’m making a observation based on how his posts have been & what he’s saying,
As stated I’ve held Agnostic in high regard even though we’ve frequently disagreed.
He’s gone very left wing liberal & lost his reasoned middle ground outlook of Before.

And let’s be honest policing has an awful lot of very questionable individuals in its
Ranks And seriously needs a thorough house clean.
Though that’s for a different thread.