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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #100 on: October 21, 2018, 10:05:16 AM »
The cart doesn't drive the horse. MSM is big business and not a conspiracy. Newscasters cater to their audiences' biases. The only brainwashing going on comes from the sponsors who try to convince people to buy their products. Brainwashing people on unemployment, welfare and disability is a non-starter.

The American people aren't responding to it as well as to conservative news outlets, which is why the liberal networks trail behind them in news coverage viewership. That alone should tell you that their message isn't tailored to their audience but to the instructions forcefed to them by their producers, who in turn are fed it by the executive team. There's ample evidence of a general trend toward leftist opinion and promotion of Democrat-backed causes on all the networks other than Fox, and I've posted a few threads in this very forum with examples of such.

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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #101 on: October 21, 2018, 12:42:15 PM »
Do you ever read anything besides media that is considered far right? I guess you only want confirmation on what you already believe. This is your choice, but it is pretty limiting.  :(
Did you read the article? Besides the obvious connection....it made a valid point, why didn't she use a commercial test kit? Why would she pay a private company that she has distant connections to to do the testing?
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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #102 on: October 21, 2018, 12:43:20 PM »
The American people aren't responding to it as well as to conservative news outlets, which is why the liberal networks trail behind them in news coverage viewership. That alone should tell you that their message isn't tailored to their audience but to the instructions forcefed to them by their producers, who in turn are fed it by the executive team. There's ample evidence of a general trend toward leftist opinion and promotion of Democrat-backed causes on all the networks other than Fox, and I've posted a few threads in this very forum with examples of such.

Yours is only part of the story. FOX news has no viable competition. MSNBC and CNN's combined viewership exceeds FOX.

“Maddow” averaged 3 million viewers, beating CNN for the 8th straight quarter. “Maddow” was the only cable news program to achieve growth in the timeslot over 1Q17 for both A25-54 (+26% vs. FOX News' -11% and CNN's -17%) and total viewers (+34% vs. FOX News' -7% and CNN's -18%).Apr 3, 2018


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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #103 on: October 21, 2018, 01:29:56 PM »
Did you read the article? Besides the obvious connection....it made a valid point, why didn't she use a commercial test kit? Why would she pay a private company that she has distant connections to to do the testing?

I did read the pointless article.

FamilyTreeDNA is one of the most popular genealogy DNA testing companies, second only to AncestryDNA. Not sure what is meant by a commercial (DNA) test kit. There are free DNA tests available. They offer very specific and limited tests. AncestryDNA (the one I used) has the largest genealogical database. Their test kit is less than $100.

Warren's ex-husband is one of three co-founders of FamilyTreeDNA. Why wouldn't she select this company to test her DNA? She probably got the test for free.

Not sure why any of this is important. Her test results showed an insignificant percentage of Native American ancestry. I seriously doubt the Native American vote would win her an election to public office at any level. We might well be discussing whether her hair color is natural or not.


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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #104 on: October 21, 2018, 02:12:12 PM »
Yours is only part of the story. FOX news has no viable competition. MSNBC and CNN's combined viewership exceeds FOX.

“Maddow” averaged 3 million viewers, beating CNN for the 8th straight quarter. “Maddow” was the only cable news program to achieve growth in the timeslot over 1Q17 for both A25-54 (+26% vs. FOX News' -11% and CNN's -17%) and total viewers (+34% vs. FOX News' -7% and CNN's -18%).Apr 3, 2018



There's a reason for that.

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The network of the resistance (at least in prime time) continues to thrive in the ratings department. MSNBC was the second-most-watched network across all of basic cable for the month of August. The network regularly finishes in the top two or three in the cable ratings race these days.

MSNBC dayside and total day (6 a.m.-6 a.m.) delivered record monthly audiences in August 2018, as did individual programs including Deadline: White House, hosted by Nicolle Wallace, and Morning Joe. Additionally, The 11th Hour with Brian Williams was the No. 1 cable news program in its timeslot for the month.

Here’s a look at MSNBC’s averages for August:

The ratings for August 2018:

Prime time (Mon-Sun):  1,845,000 Total Viewers /  340,000 A25-54
Total Day (Mon-Sun):  1,040,000 Total Viewers /   194,000 A25-54
The network seems to be skewing older in 2018 relative to 2017. Perhaps younger news viewers are starting to get Trump fatigue. Or maybe the further away we move from presidential elections, the less interested younger viewers are in cable news.

That’s up for debate.

In Aug. 2018, MSNBC was +1 percent in total prime time viewers, but -17 percent in prime time A25-54 viewers vs. August 2017.  The trend was similar across the 24-hour day. The network was +4 percent in total day viewers vs. August 2017, but was actually -16 percent among adults 25-54.

While MSNBC dominated CNN in total prime time viewers, the network actually came up short to CNN when it came to delivering adults 25-54.

MSNBC says TRMS was the No. 1 cable news show in the 9 p.m. timeslot in August among adults 25-54. But according to Nielsen data, TRMS did not actually beat Hannity. When Jeanine Pirro hosts Hannity, those broadcasts are labeled “Hannity Special.” If one takes the “Special” broadcasts into account, then yes, Maddow does win. But Nielsen does not count the ratings for those “Hannity Special” broadcasts towards the Hannity ratings, which means Hannity consequently comes out on top across the board.

https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/august-2018-ratings-msnbc-is-posting-year-over-year-total-audience-growth/375241

Check the bolded parts out. Their audience is growing older - never a good sign for a network, which aims for the coveted 25-35 demographic - and part of the reason, as the article states, is "Trump fatigue." Now why would a 24HR cable news network elicit that type of reaction from anyone, regardless of political hue? Because it's all they fucking talk about in those 24 hours, other than regularly scheduled early weekend morning programming like Dateline Mystery. They're turning off their own viewers by narrowly and obsessively over reporting on the same subject. Moreover, as it accurately states, viewership declines as election hysteria fades. This does not hold true for Fox News or its prime time hosts, whose popularity has not budged or waned since 2016 was over, nor has it spiked due to the 2018 elections (MSNBC's current status-quo). As you saw with the lower ratings Hannity gets when the show's host isn't hosting it (such as Nielsen doesn't count them), the same applies to Maddow: When she's off, her show's audience evaporates. Why is that? Because people watch those two shows for the presenter, rather than what they have to say. Leftists have found their textbook liberal heroine in a lesbian, white, former demonstrator who now holds a plum TV job for a decidedly unsocialistic inflated salary (none of which apparently gets questioned by her anti-capitalist core viewership). They like HER, so they watch her. Hannity needs no introduction, he's been a steadfast advocate for conservative causes for over 25 years and is foremost a radio personality, not a TV person (he admits he hates his TV time slot because he's an early riser and has to stay up late to do it, plus it's less freestyle than radio and has more limits on what he can broadcast).

CNN is in a cul-de-sac. It can't even get half a million people to watch its 'best' shows, and the radical hosts I posted videos about here and in the G&O are the reason. They're so far gone on the spectrum of what's socially acceptable, throwing around n-words and openly supporting 'antifa', that no tax-paying American legally in the country can watch their filth. So I won't waste your time with articles showing the nosedive their ratings have taken nor the nadir of their creative department in the form of more embarrassing videos of their anti-American hosts and panels.

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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #105 on: October 21, 2018, 03:30:05 PM »
The mainstream news will never self-destruct because it will continue court the folks who support them, as it always has.

'CNN’s ratings would be in the toilet without Donald Trump' - Ted Kopple

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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #106 on: October 21, 2018, 04:49:34 PM »
Unless you’re a television producer looking to charge more for advertising content, or a tv personality looking for a bigger paycheck, I don’t get  fascination with ratings is.

You guys throw them around as if they’re some kind of proxy for truth.

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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #107 on: October 21, 2018, 05:24:56 PM »
Unless you’re a television producer looking to charge more for advertising content, or a tv personality looking for a bigger paycheck, I don’t get  fascination with ratings is.

You guys throw them around as if they’re some kind of proxy for truth.
blow me and keep it slow and circular with the hand motion

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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #108 on: October 21, 2018, 05:49:31 PM »
blow me and keep it slow and circular with the hand motion

Sorry to disappoint, but I’m strictly no homo. But you do you, Kwon. You do you, and proudly.

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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #109 on: October 21, 2018, 05:57:25 PM »
Sorry to disappoint, but I’m strictly no homo. But you do you, Kwon. You do you, and proudly.

actually it's more like the other way around (ask most people)
the legitimately straight guy laughs off obvious gay teasing from other men either by jokingly going along with it, making a similar comment of the joker, or pretending to be a social justice type and stand up for the rights of those like it in the pooper

but notice that none of those fit your reply
because your response was a copy & paste from the "frustrated bi-curious but overall straight man" instruction manual. You just dont get worked up like that or act so defensive if you're actually straight in 2018, dude. It's not 1959.

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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #110 on: October 22, 2018, 02:07:46 AM »
There's a reason for that.

https://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/august-2018-ratings-msnbc-is-posting-year-over-year-total-audience-growth/375241

Check the bolded parts out. Their audience is growing older - never a good sign for a network, which aims for the coveted 25-35 demographic - and part of the reason, as the article states, is "Trump fatigue." Now why would a 24HR cable news network elicit that type of reaction from anyone, regardless of political hue? Because it's all they fucking talk about in those 24 hours, other than regularly scheduled early weekend morning programming like Dateline Mystery. They're turning off their own viewers by narrowly and obsessively over reporting on the same subject. Moreover, as it accurately states, viewership declines as election hysteria fades. This does not hold true for Fox News or its prime time hosts, whose popularity has not budged or waned since 2016 was over, nor has it spiked due to the 2018 elections (MSNBC's current status-quo). As you saw with the lower ratings Hannity gets when the show's host isn't hosting it (such as Nielsen doesn't count them), the same applies to Maddow: When she's off, her show's audience evaporates. Why is that? Because people watch those two shows for the presenter, rather than what they have to say. Leftists have found their textbook liberal heroine in a lesbian, white, former demonstrator who now holds a plum TV job for a decidedly unsocialistic inflated salary (none of which apparently gets questioned by her anti-capitalist core viewership). They like HER, so they watch her. Hannity needs no introduction, he's been a steadfast advocate for conservative causes for over 25 years and is foremost a radio personality, not a TV person (he admits he hates his TV time slot because he's an early riser and has to stay up late to do it, plus it's less freestyle than radio and has more limits on what he can broadcast).

CNN is in a cul-de-sac. It can't even get half a million people to watch its 'best' shows, and the radical hosts I posted videos about here and in the G&O are the reason. They're so far gone on the spectrum of what's socially acceptable, throwing around n-words and openly supporting 'antifa', that no tax-paying American legally in the country can watch their filth. So I won't waste your time with articles showing the nosedive their ratings have taken nor the nadir of their creative department in the form of more embarrassing videos of their anti-American hosts and panels.

There's nothing to argue with here either in the citations or in your commentary.

Even us old fogies are tired of the redundancy. I barely watch the news on any channel these days. Every news story turns into a dead horse. "CNN Breaking News" my eye. Should be retitled CNN Broken News. I've watched Rachel Maddow a couple of times. Her delivery is unique and a lot of fun to watch.

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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #111 on: October 22, 2018, 03:46:01 AM »
>WARREN TOOK DNA TEST TO HELP REBUILD TRUST IN GOVERNMENT

>Democratic U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren said Sunday that she changed her mind recently and took a DNA test proving her heritage because Americans' trust in government is "at an all-time low" and she wanted to help rebuild it by being transparent.

>The incumbent Massachusetts senator spoke at her second debate against Republican state Rep. Geoff Diehl in the U.S. Senate race.

>Diehl shot back that the issue "is not about Sen. Warren's ancestry, it's about integrity in my mind, and I don't care whether you think you benefited or not from that claim, it's the fact that you tried to benefit from that claim that I think bothers a lot of people and it's something you haven't been able to put to rest since the 2012 campaign".

>Trump's silent presence dominated the debate, with Diehl saying it's "obvious" she doesn't want to be senator, but rather, president. "She's been campaigning in states that are more important to her than Massachusetts," he said.

http://archive.is/jGfWa
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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #112 on: October 22, 2018, 05:14:23 AM »
At best she has what 5% Native American DNA
What about her other 95+% heritage
Or does her >5% at best supersede all her other DNA
It really is a pathetic attempt on her behalf & as for those defending her.!!

Just as farcical as her person of Colour status.
 

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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #113 on: October 22, 2018, 05:16:22 AM »
>WARREN TOOK DNA TEST TO HELP REBUILD TRUST IN GOVERNMENT

>Democratic U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren said Sunday that she changed her mind recently and took a DNA test proving her heritage because Americans' trust in government is "at an all-time low" and she wanted to help rebuild it by being transparent.

>The incumbent Massachusetts senator spoke at her second debate against Republican state Rep. Geoff Diehl in the U.S. Senate race.

>Diehl shot back that the issue "is not about Sen. Warren's ancestry, it's about integrity in my mind, and I don't care whether you think you benefited or not from that claim, it's the fact that you tried to benefit from that claim that I think bothers a lot of people and it's something you haven't been able to put to rest since the 2012 campaign".

>Trump's silent presence dominated the debate, with Diehl saying it's "obvious" she doesn't want to be senator, but rather, president. "She's been campaigning in states that are more important to her than Massachusetts," he said.

http://archive.is/jGfWa


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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #114 on: October 22, 2018, 07:59:23 AM »
actually it's more like the other way around (ask most people)
the legitimately straight guy laughs off obvious gay teasing from other men either by jokingly going along with it, making a similar comment of the joker, or pretending to be a social justice type and stand up for the rights of those like it in the pooper

but notice that none of those fit your reply
because your response was a copy & paste from the "frustrated bi-curious but overall straight man" instruction manual. You just dont get worked up like that or act so defensive if you're actually straight in 2018, dude. It's not 1959.

Spoken like a true admirer of oiled men in thongs.

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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #115 on: October 22, 2018, 12:58:18 PM »
At best she has what 5% Native American DNA
What about her other 95+% heritage
Or does her >5% at best supersede all her other DNA
It really is a pathetic attempt on her behalf & as for those defending her.!!

Just as farcical as her person of Colour status.
 

Pathetic attempt at what? Why would anyone care if she's part Native American or not? 

My heritage according to Ancestry DNA is almost completely English and Scotch with a smidgen of Scandinavian thrown in. What's interesting to me is that nothing in my DNA relates to the maternal side of the family and yet my grandmother was French. My mom had olive toned skin and so do I. Why didn't my Native American ancestry show up in the test? Supposedly I'm 1/16 Cherokee Indian.  Genealogical DNA tests are likely less than accurate. Oh, and doesn't olive skin make me a person of color? 

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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #116 on: October 22, 2018, 01:48:01 PM »
Pathetic attempt at what? Why would anyone care if she's part Native American or not? 

My heritage according to Ancestry DNA is almost completely English and Scotch with a smidgen of Scandinavian thrown in. What's interesting to me is that nothing in my DNA relates to the maternal side of the family and yet my grandmother was French. My mom had olive toned skin and so do I. Why didn't my Native American ancestry show up in the test? Supposedly I'm 1/16 Cherokee Indian.  Genealogical DNA tests are likely less than accurate. Oh, and doesn't olive skin make me a person of color? 

Prime - Come on - Really !!
Pathetic because she’s been on & on about her Native America Heritage
As if she was 2nd or 3rd generation.

Also she got a university job ( IIRC ) based on the fact she was a Woman of Colour.
  ::) ::) ::)

No point asking me why your DNA results came back as they did  ::)
I didn’t do the testing - You’d Do Better Asking Those That Did the Testing
Or Made the testing Kit, HTH.

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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #117 on: October 22, 2018, 01:50:42 PM »
Pathetic attempt at what? Why would anyone care if she's part Native American or not? 

My heritage according to Ancestry DNA is almost completely English and Scotch with a smidgen of Scandinavian thrown in. What's interesting to me is that nothing in my DNA relates to the maternal side of the family and yet my grandmother was French. My mom had olive toned skin and so do I. Why didn't my Native American ancestry show up in the test? Supposedly I'm 1/16 Cherokee Indian.  Genealogical DNA tests are likely less than accurate. Oh, and doesn't olive skin make me a person of color? 



This has to be trolling. You have olive skin like Warren lives in a teepee.

If not, the DNA test must be wrong...hint...it's not.

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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #118 on: October 22, 2018, 04:26:10 PM »

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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #120 on: October 23, 2018, 05:29:39 PM »
Prime - Come on - Really !!
Pathetic because she’s been on & on about her Native America Heritage
As if she was 2nd or 3rd generation.

Also she got a university job ( IIRC ) based on the fact she was a Woman of Colour.
  ::) ::) ::)

No point asking me why your DNA results came back as they did  ::)
I didn’t do the testing - You’d Do Better Asking Those That Did the Testing
Or Made the testing Kit, HTH.

I don't give a hoot about Elizabeth Warren. I couldn't care less whether she's 10th generation Native American or 6th generation. If she landed a University professorship because she checked the minority box on her application or better yet as woman of color and university HR didn't question it, shame on them both.

My point in mentioning the possible inaccuracy of my DNA test results was that however popular DNA testing has become, I don't put a lot of stock in it.  

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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #121 on: October 23, 2018, 05:34:44 PM »
I don't give a hoot about Elizabeth Warren. I couldn't care less whether she's 10th generation Native American or 6th generation. If she got a University Job because she checked the minority box on her application or better yet as woman of color and university HR didn't question it, shame on both.

My point in mentioning the possible inaccuracy of my DNA test results was that however popular DNA testing has become, I don't put a lot of stock in it
She isn't according to Cherokee Indian standards. According to her DNA test she is Native American, even though it is a mere speck.
???
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #122 on: October 23, 2018, 06:08:53 PM »


This has to be trolling. You have olive skin like Warren lives in a teepee.

If not, the DNA test must be wrong...hint...it's not.

And you know what skin tone I have, how? -From photos posted on Getbig? I'll go with my dermatologist's assessment rather than yours.

Believe whatever you want about the direct to consumer DNA genealogy tests, accuracy. There are several companies offering these tests. The results vary from one to the other, so which one is accurate?

https://now.tufts.edu/articles/pulling-back-curtain-dna-ancestry-tests

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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #123 on: October 23, 2018, 09:54:59 PM »
And you know what skin tone I have, how? -From photos posted on Getbig? I'll go with my dermatologist's assessment rather than yours.

Believe whatever you want about the direct to consumer DNA genealogy tests, accuracy. There are several companies offering these tests. The results vary from one to the other, so which one is accurate?

https://now.tufts.edu/articles/pulling-back-curtain-dna-ancestry-tests




Well yeah, the picture of the obviously northern european white guy sorta gave it away. Olive skin is not the same as a white guy with a lifetime of sun exposure.  

I'm not going to take the time to put a picture of you next to a real olive skinned person, but this is Warren-esque delusion to be sure. ;D

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Re: Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren
« Reply #124 on: October 24, 2018, 11:40:15 AM »



Well yeah, the picture of the obviously northern european white guy sorta gave it away. Olive skin is not the same as a white guy with a lifetime of sun exposure.  

I'm not going to take the time to put a picture of you next to a real olive skinned person, but this is Warren-esque delusion to be sure. ;D

Now you've got me curious about this. Maybe the dermatologist is wrong. Ever read anything about the Fitzpatrick Scale? It appears that I fall somewhere between III and IV on it. My eyes are hazel green which is a feature of type III,  every other feature is type IV; "rarely burns, tans to a moderate brown." To avoid my skin looking yellowish, I occasionally use a tanning bed (helps with mood too). On average, there are 68 sunny and 74 partly days per year in Portland.  :) :)