Elizabeth " Pocahontis " Warren

[Soul Crusher]

MSNBC Analyst Defends Warren, Suggests Cherokee Nation is Racist
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Posted on 10/19/2018, 12:48:33 AM by TigerClaws

Desperate to defend Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren’s disastrous political stunt of taking a DNA test to try to prove Native American heritage, late Thursday morning, MSNBC Political Analyst and SiriusXM Director of Progressive Programming Zerlina Maxwell actually insinuated that the Cherokee Nation was racist, following their statement condemning Warren.

Noting that Warren “long claimed that she’s part Cherokee,” anchor Craig Melvin cited: “Cherokee Nation, Secretary of State Cherokee Nation, said in a statement, ‘DNA testing cannot prove that Warren is Cherokee or any other tribe.’” The host asked: “Do we think that the decision itself was a mistake? Do we think that the timing was a mistake?”

After Maxwell laughably argued that the move “put to bed a lot of the controversy” and somehow placed President Trump “on the defensive,” she blasted the Cherokee: “But in terms of the Cherokee Nation’s statement, I found that to be ridiculous.” Claiming that she was “also part Cherokee,” Maxwell accused the Native American tribe of racial discrimination:

So to be clear, I think that while the rollout of the DNA test and the decision to do a DNA test to be able to, quote, “prove” that she is part Cherokee, may not have been the best method. I also think that the Cherokee Nation’s response was problematic because it actually ignores the fact that DNA testing historically has been used to exclude black natives from tribal affiliation. And so, that history has been completely lost in this entire conversation, and that’s potentially very unfortunate.

A Democratic senator falsely claims to be Native American to advance her academic career, she does a DNA test showing that she may only be 1/1024th of that heritage, and one of her left-wing defenders attacks the Cherokee Nation as racist after they rightfully call out Warren for trying to misappropriate their culture. The contortions that the liberal media go through to defend Democrats are truly astounding.

Here is a transcript of the brief October 18 exchange on MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin:

11:33 AM ET

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CRAIG MELVIN: Zerlina, I want to talk to you about something we were talking about in the commercial break, Elizabeth Warren, considered by many to be a possible frontrunner. Perhaps you heard, she released her DNA test results earlier this week, and revealed that she has some Native American roots. She’s long claimed that she’s part Cherokee. Cherokee Nation, Secretary of State Cherokee Nation, said in a statement, “DNA testing cannot prove that Warren is Cherokee or any other tribe.” There’s Chuck Hoskin Jr., Secretary of State.

Do we think that the decision itself was a mistake? Do we think that the timing was a mistake? What do we make of the political calculation of Elizabeth Warren releasing these DNA test results 20 days away from the midterms?

ZERLINA MAXWELL [SIRIUSXM, DIRECTOR OF PROGRESSIVE PROGRAMMING]: I think it’s a complicated answer. I think that it wasn’t fully a smooth rollout of the DNA testing and the video, and it put to bed a lot of the controversy. Obviously it was because President Trump had said he was going to give a million dollars to a charity if she could prove, using a DNA test, that she was part native. She did that. He’s not giving the money to the charity. He also denied saying that. So it sort of puts him on the defensive in some ways.

But in terms of the Cherokee Nation’s statement, I found that to be ridiculous. I am also part Cherokee, but I have not taken a DNA test. I’m not trying to join a tribe or claim membership in a tribe, and neither did Elizabeth Warren.

So to be clear, I think that while the rollout of the DNA test and the decision to do a DNA test to be able to, quote, “prove” that she is part Cherokee, may not have been the best method. I also think that the Cherokee Nation’s response was problematic because it actually ignores the fact that DNA testing historically has been used to exclude black natives from tribal affiliation. And so, that history has been completely lost in this entire conversation, and that’s potentially very unfortunate.

[Board_SHERIF]

To me, the whole issue of "race" as a key factor is pretty disgusting on any political side.

The Nazi's even figured out a way to codify into law how "Jewish" a person could be.
I think it was something like 1 grandparent disqualified you from being accepted as a full German.

I know they did a similar thing when it came to Black/African ancestry and legalized slavery.

The world made a big deal about Obama becoming the 1st black President.
Ok, I voted for the man, but it wasn't due to his race. It was my feelings on him as a President.
The genetic facts are the man was half white, but very few cared about that.
Plenty of black and white folks, voted for /against him with race as a major issue.

As for the Elizabeth Warren Indian issue, here's my 2 cents:
Trump was wrong for calling her Pochahontis . He dbl down and said he'd
give her favorite charity a million bucks, he she proved she had Indian ancestry.

Warren called his bluff and from a purely technically view, she proved him wrong.
BUT, using such a small ancestral link looks silly.

For what it's worth, my great grandma ( dad's grandma) was a full blooded Indian from SE Canada region.
I never met the woman , but saw a pic of her and it's claimed she lived to be 102?
Considering the longevity of my grandparents , it might be in the ball park, but who really knows?
Most of my ancestry is Irish and Dutch with  touch of English ( anglo-saxon).
I found it interesting but it didn't change who I am now or what I'm going to do with my life.

Fuk you are dumb........

[Primemuscle]

Her claim was that she was Cherokee. It proved she wasn’t.

She isn't according to Cherokee Indian standards. According to her DNA test she is Native American, even though it is a mere speck.

[Primemuscle]

Her DNA test showed she was from 0.09 - 1.5 %  FFS
And she’s made a fortune out her claims.
At a guess I’d say there are a fair few others in America
Who have that amount of Cherokee in their DNA
It be good to see all them do so well out of their being
Cherokee. 

How has she made a fortune off this?  Most Native American tribes require one be 1/16 Native American and some require as much as 1/4 to be accepted into a tribe. What is more, not all American Indian tribes are federally recognized. Contrary to popular belief, Indians do not receive payments from the federal government simply because they have Indian blood

[Irongrip400]

She isn't according to Cherokee Indian standards. According to her DNA test she is, even though it is a mere speck.

No you’re wrong. She is not Cherokee. Where are you getting your bad info from?

[Primemuscle]

No you’re wrong. She is not Cherokee. Where are you getting your bad info from?

You might want to reread my post. I never suggested Warren was Cherokee Indian, quite the opposite.

Warren, who was born in Oklahoma, has long held that her relatives on her maternal side had Native American blood, a family story that has been passed down from generation to generation. The new DNA test shows that Warren does indeed have five segments in her genome that are common to indigenous American populations. Carlos Bustamante, a Stanford University geneticist who conducted the analysis, told the Boston Globe that the results indicate that Warren had a Native American ancestor six to 10 generations back. The results seem trustworthy, genetics experts contacted by Live Science said. https://www.livescience.com/63848-elizabeth-warren-native-american-ancestry-explained.html

Why this nonsense is being discussed is a mystery to me. Whether or not someone is Native American or has Native American DNA is inconsequential to most people.
Until I submitted my DNA to Ancestry DNA testing, I believed I was part Cherokee Indian because my mother told me she was which would mean I was, not that it ever made a hill of beans to me.

The Cherokee Nation has more than 300,000 tribal members, making it the largest of the 567 federally recognized tribes in the United States. In addition, numerous groups claim Cherokee lineage, and some of these are state-recognized. A total of 819,000-plus people claim having Cherokee ancestry on the US census, which includes persons who are not enrolled members of any tribe.

Trump started calling Warren Pocahontis quite awhile ago. Maybe it's because he thought she was Native American or maybe not.  

[Kwon3]

She's neither Delaware nor Cherokee, as both tribes have repudiated her association with them. She also claimed her mother was discriminated upon due to Native Indian background, implying she had strongly recognizable facial features to that effect. Not possible when your lineage goes back 6-10 generations before branching off into European wonderbread genetics. Another liberal clown pulls a Dukakis before an election.

[Humble Narcissist]

I really don't understand how she could have been so stupid to believe that she "won" the argument with Trump by showing she's 1/1,024 % native.  Is it the fact that these ivy league people live in such a liberal bubble that they are blind to how others perceive them?

[mazrim]

You might want to reread my post. I never suggested Warren was Cherokee Indian, quite the opposite.

You literally posted that "According to her DNA test she is, even though it is a mere speck." That is in response to Irongrip posting that her claim was that she was Cherokee.

Maybe instead of telling someone to reread your post, you may want to reread it instead?

[Coach is Back!]

Do'h


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/elizabeth-warrens-ex-husband-founded-dna-testing-company

[sarcafago]

You might want to reread my post. I never suggested Warren was Cherokee Indian, quite the opposite.

Warren, who was born in Oklahoma, has long held that her relatives on her maternal side had Native American blood, a family story that has been passed down from generation to generation. The new DNA test shows that Warren does indeed have five segments in her genome that are common to indigenous American populations. Carlos Bustamante, a Stanford University geneticist who conducted the analysis, told the Boston Globe that the results indicate that Warren had a Native American ancestor six to 10 generations back. The results seem trustworthy, genetics experts contacted by Live Science said. https://www.livescience.com/63848-elizabeth-warren-native-american-ancestry-explained.html

Why this nonsense is being discussed is a mystery to me.

[Kwon3]

In 1995 the Internet barely existed. She never knew it would come back to haunt her. In fact, she'd be just fine if she'd kept her head down and not started a personal vendetta with Donald Trump. His followers are in the millions and many of them have just as many Internet detectives and conservative bloggers who expose politicians' fairy tales and lies as their hip counterparts firing off furious Tweets to Trump's twitter from the safe space of their armchairs at Starbucks using free WiFi.

[Primemuscle]

You literally posted that "According to her DNA test she is, even though it is a mere speck." That is in response to Irongrip posting that her claim was that she was Cherokee.

Maybe instead of telling someone to reread your post, you may want to reread it instead?

Okay.

[sarcafago]

Okay.

[illuminati]

In 1995 the Internet barely existed. She never knew it would come back to haunt her. In fact, she'd be just fine if she'd kept her head down and not started a personal vendetta with Donald Trump. His followers are in the millions and many of them have just as many Internet detectives and conservative bloggers who expose politicians' fairy tales and lies as their hip counterparts firing off furious Tweets to Trump's twitter from the safe space of their armchairs at Starbucks using free WiFi.

WTF  
Woman of Colour 😂😂😂😂😂

Jeezus Prime are you going to argue & side with her on the issue
She is a woman of Colour.... FFS

[loco]

Howard spelled Pocahontas wrong.

Give him a break. He's a retired public school teacher.

[Irongrip400]

You literally posted that "According to her DNA test she is, even though it is a mere speck." That is in response to Irongrip posting that her claim was that she was Cherokee.

Maybe instead of telling someone to reread your post, you may want to reread it instead?

Thank you.

[Primemuscle]

That fellow as great hair...wish I did.

[Primemuscle]

Do'h


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/elizabeth-warrens-ex-husband-founded-dna-testing-company

Do you ever read anything besides media that is considered far right? I guess you only want confirmation on what you already believe. This is your choice, but it is pretty limiting. 

[Kwon3]

Do you ever read anything besides media that is considered far right? I guess you only want confirmation on what you already believe. This is your choice, but it is pretty limiting. 

What do you considering worse than alarming when we assume that about 78% of the population relies on the mainstream news for information, and that industry is trapped in a self-destructive paradigm of chasing the Democrat party's furthestmost champions of left-wing liberal causes alien to the American spirit off the cliff they're plunging headlong for by this time next year. They have no independence. They HAVE to be one-step ahead of Black Lives Matters or Me Too in order to keep their followers' glued to Don Lemon or Chris Hayes.

[Primemuscle]

What do you considering worse than alarming when we assume that about 78% of the population relies on the mainstream news for information, and that industry is trapped in a self-destructive paradigm of chasing the Democrat party's furthestmost champions of left-wing liberal causes alien to the American spirit off the cliff they're plunging headlong for by this time next year. They have no independence. They HAVE to be one-step ahead of Black Lives Matters or Me Too in order to keep their followers' glued to Don Lemon or Chris Hayes.

The mainstream news will never self-destruct because it will continue court the folks who support them, as it always has.

[Kwon3]

The mainstream news will never self-destruct because it will continue court the folks who support them, as it always has.

but it is rotting the brains of our women and young people and the work-shy assholes on welfare and disability, Prime. And there's millions of them, as these jobless demonstrators frequently show us. Not a good use of their energy but the MSM is trying its best to brainwash them into its anti-American elitist liberal hate-club. "More free stuff!" "Cheaper needles!" "More Hondurans and El Salvadorans! (and their heroin, which you shitbags crave)"! "Fuck Trump! indeed, thanks Robert De Niro, your brave slogan is our new fight for freedom in 2020" - said the DNC Spokesperson.

And you're surprised the Dems do well in the most drugged out states in the country (of which Oregon is one)? They just did that in Canada to buy the votes for the 2019 liberal vs conservative election there. They're DRUGGING the fucking country into voting for them under threat of taking their tea leaves away. That's on some serious Manchurian Candidate shit, bro. Even WE aren't there yet, but you shitheads sure are trying our patience.

[Primemuscle]

but it is rotting the brains of our women and young people and the work-shy assholes on welfare and disability, Prime. And there's millions of them, as these jobless demonstrators frequently show us. Not a good use of their energy but the MSM is trying its best to brainwash them into its anti-American elitist liberal hate-club. "More free stuff!" "Cheaper needles!" "More Hondurans and El Salvadorans! (and their heroin, which you shitbags crave)"! "Fuck Trump! indeed, thanks Robert De Niro, your brave slogan is our new fight for freedom in 2020" - said the DNC Spokesperson.

And you're surprised the Dems do well in the most drugged out states in the country (of which Oregon is one)? They just did that in Canada to buy the votes for the 2019 liberal vs conservative election there. They're DRUGGING the fucking country into voting for them under threat of taking their tea leaves away. That's on some serious Manchurian Candidate shit, bro. Even WE aren't there yet, but you shitheads sure are trying our patience.

The cart doesn't drive the horse. MSM is big business and not a conspiracy. Newscasters cater to their audiences' biases. The only brainwashing going on comes from the sponsors who try to convince people to buy their products. Brainwashing people on unemployment, welfare and disability is a non-starter.

[Yamcha]

Give him a break. He's a retired retarded public school teacher.

FTFY!

[loco]

FTFY!