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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #150 on: October 30, 2018, 03:01:55 PM »
People are getting angry at Ronnie now because he is saying that his surgeons are to blame. He is taking ZERO responsibility for his screws breaking, etc.

Previously, people were just shaking their head and saying he's nuts for doing what he does immediately after surgeries, but whatever, he is who he is.

However, on a fundamental level, people are getting angry at him now because he is blaming the surgeons for his present condition. He is directly attacking others for his stupidity and the people he is attacking may be forced to defend themselves at some point if it goes that far. SO when you say he's not hurting others, why not leave him be, it's not true. He is directly attacking the surgeons and considering suing them.

That's why on a fundamental level people are getting angry. Because in our own lives we've had to take and accept responsibility for our actions and move forward. He refuses. Lives his life recklessly, and then blames others for his misfortunes.

That. Is. Unethical.



That's simply not true. Go back and read past threads about Ronnie. Every single one of them has the same theme. The hate started way before this last episode.

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« Reply #151 on: October 30, 2018, 03:09:32 PM »

*SNICKER*

I would hazard a guess that both of you enjoy it when your "girlfriends" are on their period. 

Until you've completely transitioned and can trib one another you'll just have to be content playing "tummy sticks". Mahu much?  Do they still make you wear a button that says, "I'm A Boy!" down on Hotel Street?   Two pinatas just begging to be poked with "sticks".

Get a room, "girls".  ;D


Such an angry little man with an obsession for feminized men. I can only imagine how hard it was not to use the word "cuck" in your last post since it's been pointed out how that is the main theme in most of your posts. Reminds of that other poster who makes some kind of reference to gay sex on virtually every thread. Were you one of those guys T-bomb talked about who would pay him to bang their wives? Preferably anally?

You really are preoccupied with that whole cuck/sissy boy theme.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #152 on: October 30, 2018, 03:13:24 PM »
WOW! Sorry to butt-in here, but SCOTT mentioned HOTEL STREET and I bet'cha that Ronnie has been there!
 
For the rest of you GetBiggers that's supposedly the red-light district of Downtown Honolulu ....  but actually it's so much more!

I am totally familiar with that area and have met a good number of interesting people along the way.

Drank there, played pool there, ate there, bought food there, etc. but never got tattooed there ... nor have I ever written a wrote a word about it. (Except for now!)

Hawaii was/is more interesting if/when you stepped into other's flip-flops and see the other sides of Paradise!

Thanks for memory-bank kick, SCOTT!

And sorry for the interruption.

Brah, how old are you?

Every post now is a trip down memory lane.

When most of your life is now behind you I guess that's normal. I know I am starting to dwell more in the past.

The fact that Scott, a haole, seems very familiar, or even is aware, about Hotel street speaks volumes and explains his obsession with Mahus/Sissy boys.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #153 on: October 30, 2018, 03:27:24 PM »
Fixed

You're right. But he won 8 Mr. Olympias and will be remembered as the greatest bodybuilder of his generation. You will be remembered for nothing. It may not be a price you would be willing to pay but it was worth it to Ronnie. That's what makes champions and high achievers different from you. They are willing to do whatever it takes. You're content with mediocrity. So is most everybody else. I have no problem with that. Just like I have no problem with people that want to achieve greatness.

Many have sacrificed as much and still achieved nothing. That's the bigger tragedy.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #154 on: October 30, 2018, 03:29:46 PM »

*SNIF*  *SNIF*  *SNIF*...Gosh...Gee...Willikins...Golly...Gee...

How incredibly sensitive of you.  How...How...Dare I say it (Oooo!  DARE! DARE!)?  Emotionally deeeeeeep….

Fuck that noise.  How Cirque du SoGhey of you.  What?  Are you now getting hormone transfusions directly from Yoko Ono?  WTF?!  "They need to make their mark.  Plant their flag."

*SNICKER* 

You are now an official typist.  What a fooking maroon...*SNICKER*


Another childish response full of anger, confuse thinking and homosexual imagery.

So preoccupied with how others live and those that have opinions different from yours.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #155 on: October 30, 2018, 03:37:29 PM »
Another childish response full of anger, confuse thinking and homosexual imagery.

So preoccupied with how others live and those that have opinions different from yours.

What a fucking S.N.A.G.  How sad your imitation of life must be that you feign compassion for mindless addicts like Coleman.  Virtue signaling is so hip of you. Cucktards such as yourself don't have opinions, they express "feeeeelings".  FTN.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #156 on: October 30, 2018, 03:38:40 PM »
You're right. But he won 8 Mr. Olympias and will be remembered as the greatest bodybuilder of his generation. You will be remembered for nothing. It may not be a price you would be willing to pay but it was worth it to Ronnie. That's what makes champions and high achievers different from you. They are willing to do whatever it takes. You're content with mediocrity. So is most everybody else. I have no problem with that. Just like I have no problem with people that want to achieve greatness.

Many have sacrificed as much and still achieved nothing. That's the bigger tragedy.


You’re a real asshole.

How do you know he’s content with mediocrity? Not successful?

A majority of folks who achieve one heck of a lot do so without fanfare and celebrity.

Get a clue, Waldo.


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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #157 on: October 30, 2018, 04:50:26 PM »
You're right. But he won 8 Mr. Olympias and will be remembered as the greatest bodybuilder of his generation. You will be remembered for nothing. It may not be a price you would be willing to pay but it was worth it to Ronnie. That's what makes champions and high achievers different from you. They are willing to do whatever it takes. You're content with mediocrity. So is most everybody else. I have no problem with that. Just like I have no problem with people that want to achieve greatness.

Many have sacrificed as much and still achieved nothing. That's the bigger tragedy.


This is utter nonsense. I know and have met many people in my life who no one outside of their inner circles will ever hear of. But they have, and continue to, help people and save lives and talk down suicidal teens. But I guess because you have never heard of them, they have achieved nothing.

You are an idiot, I'm sorry to say. You're very narrow-minded and live inside your own bubble.

Ronnie Coleman is, and was, a hedonist and narcisist and continues to be one. Furthermore he is a pariah on society because he continues to take no responsibility for his lack of forethought and pervasive reckless choices. If people want to "hate" on him, who the fuck are you to tell them they can't.

But I guess i can't say anything. Because I haven't, nor ever will, achieve anything of note in life. Being succesful in life means having people around you that value you because of what you bring into their lives. How much of a benefit, versus a drain, you are on those around you and the rest of society.

But hey, if they're not famous, and you haven't heard of them, I guess their lives will have amounted to nothing.

Fuck you.


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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #158 on: October 30, 2018, 05:00:27 PM »
Ronnie Coleman is an alpha male.  Even in his diminished state, he misses no workouts, misses no meals and is still draining his nuts in the newest Mrs. Coleman as if it is going out of style.  Respect.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #159 on: October 30, 2018, 06:30:43 PM »
They shouldve used lag bolts with nuts and washers, they probaly used a nail gun on ronnie poor guy
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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #160 on: October 30, 2018, 06:46:15 PM »
You're right. But he won 8 Mr. Olympias and will be remembered as the greatest bodybuilder of his generation. You will be remembered for nothing. It may not be a price you would be willing to pay but it was worth it to Ronnie. That's what makes champions and high achievers different from you. They are willing to do whatever it takes. You're content with mediocrity. So is most everybody else. I have no problem with that. Just like I have no problem with people that want to achieve greatness.

Many have sacrificed as much and still achieved nothing. That's the bigger tragedy.


Is the same true for Nasser, Dallas or Don Long?  They might not have won the O but they went all in for it. And they're remembered

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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #161 on: October 30, 2018, 11:18:21 PM »
What a fucking S.N.A.G.  How sad your imitation of life must be that you feign compassion for mindless addicts like Coleman.  Virtue signaling is so hip of you. Cucktards such as yourself don't have opinions, they express "feeeeelings".  FTN.

Avoid mirrors Mr. Gray.   



Again you show your emotion based ignorance and false conservatism. You sarcastically call virtue "hip". Really. A life of virtue is something we should all aspire to.

And who is talking about compassion? Why do you just make things up? Where am I showing compassion to Ronnie when I'm just making the argument that he is doing what he wants to do in life and has no regrets so there is no reason to hate on him?

Why does it bother you so much how he lives his life? Why does it bother you so much that my opinion and perspective differs from yours?

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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #162 on: October 30, 2018, 11:23:05 PM »
Again you show your emotion based ignorance and false conservatism. You sarcastically call virtue "hip". Really. A life of virtue is something we should all aspire to.

And who is talking about compassion? Why do you just make things up? Where am I showing compassion to Ronnie when I'm just making the argument that he is doing what he wants to do in life and has no regrets so there is no reason to hate on him?

Why does it bother you so much how he lives his life? Why does it bother you so much that my opinion and perspective differs from yours?
What a fucking S.N.A.G.  How sad your imitation of life must be that you feign compassion for mindless addicts like Coleman.  Virtue signaling is so hip of you. Cucktards such as yourself don't have opinions, they express "feeeeelings".  FTN.

Avoid mirrors Mr. Gray.   


Such an angry little man with an obsession for feminized men. I can only imagine how hard it was not to use the word "cuck" in your last post since it's been pointed out how that is the main theme in most of your posts. Reminds of that other poster who makes some kind of reference to gay sex on virtually every thread. Were you one of those guys T-bomb talked about who would pay him to bang their wives? Preferably anally?

You really are preoccupied with that whole cuck/sissy boy theme.

*SNIF*  *SNIF*  *SNIF*...Gosh...Gee...Willikins...Golly...Gee...

How incredibly sensitive of you.  How...How...Dare I say it (Oooo!  DARE! DARE!)?  Emotionally deeeeeeep….

Fuck that noise.  How Cirque du SoGhey of you.  What?  Are you now getting hormone transfusions directly from Yoko Ono?  WTF?!  "They need to make their mark.  Plant their flag."

*SNICKER* 

You are now an official typist.  What a fooking maroon...*SNICKER*



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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #163 on: October 30, 2018, 11:29:06 PM »

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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #164 on: October 30, 2018, 11:49:05 PM »
You’re a real asshole.

How do you know he’s content with mediocrity? Not successful?

A majority of folks who achieve one heck of a lot do so without fanfare and celebrity.

Get a clue, Waldo.



Once again another prime example of someone who reacts emotionally to a point of view rather than present an argument to refute my position. Just a personal insult.

And you also show, like others on this thread, how you simply misunderstand the opinions I present and read into things I did not mean.

Whether one is content about his mediocrity is quite different from the fact that he is. I'm sure most people would like to have done and accomplished more in their life but were unwilling to do what it takes or
unable to for a variety of factors beyond their control. You can aspire to be the President all you want but there are simply mitigating factors beyond your control that prevent this dream from coming true.

And success and greatness are entirely two different things. Why do I have to explain this to you? There are many people who are very successful in life. Many people that have enriched the lives of many. But that's the point. There are many of them. Greatest is reserved for a precious few. I don't know you or the person I referred to as mediocre as a point of fact but I'm just playing the odds. Chances are overwhelming that anything that you, or anybody else on this board, have done that thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, and certainly millions, if you add in historic content, that others have not done as well. That doesn't mean you weren't successful and didn't live a meaningful, fulfilling life -- but great? Do you think you have achieved greatness?

We all like to think that we are special. That there is some spark or have that "something-something" as Questin Tarantino use it call it, in us that distinguished us from the pack. Remember how Gronk use to always hint about how he was some genetic marvel. That if he took it seriously he could have been a top pro. That he achieved such a high level and imagine how he would be if he juiced. And when he finally announced he would go to the dark side we saw that there was really no change in his physique. At least nothing one would expect from a first-time juicer let alone a genetic marvel he claimed to me. That he was no natural genetic marvel. That he was just lying all along.

The fact is that you and I are not special. That we are just ordinary guys trying to keep body and soul together. Trying to do the best that our inclination, drive, and talents allow. That we are never going to achieve anything that thousands of others before, present and after us haven't achieved as well is nothing to feel insulted or hurt about.

You can be angry, call me names, think I'm a bad person; but what you can't do is prove me wrong with a coherent argument devoid of name calling and gay imagery.

Being mediocre, being average, is not meant as an insult. It's simply a fact. Being average, that bloated middle of the Bell Curve, is simply, by definition, where the vast majority of us reside. As the asymptote to the right of the curve gets closer and closer to zero -- that is where greatness lies. As I said, that is reserved for a precious few. Also by definition. There's no shame in not being in that lofty position. We can still be successful, happy and fulfilled.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #165 on: October 31, 2018, 12:01:07 AM »
Is the same true for Nasser, Dallas or Don Long?  They might not have won the O but they went all in for it. And they're remembered

I'm not sure they will be remembered for long. I don't know how old you
but I'll sometimes ask young people that are obvious bbers if they know who Heath, Ramy, Roelly, Cutler, Coleman are. Yes, they know of them. And, of course, people from every walk of life know who Arnold is. But they don't have a clue who Mentzer was, who Haney was, even Yates but less so.

Only if you are hardcore bbing that follow the sport you might be aware of Nasser ten years from now because he probably will still be talked about. But Dallas and Don Long will fade quickly as the years wear on.

Again, being great his something that is quite rare. Even if you have achieved things that few have. Chris Dickson was a Mr. O but I don't think anybody considers him one of the greats. Gerald Ford was the President of the United State but I don't think anybody considers him great. Now Arnold -- he achieved greatness.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #166 on: October 31, 2018, 07:11:11 AM »
You're right. But he won 8 Mr. Olympias and will be remembered as the greatest bodybuilder of his generation. You will be remembered for nothing. It may not be a price you would be willing to pay but it was worth it to Ronnie. That's what makes champions and high achievers different from you. They are willing to do whatever it takes. You're content with mediocrity. So is most everybody else. I have no problem with that. Just like I have no problem with people that want to achieve greatness.

Many have sacrificed as much and still achieved nothing. That's the bigger tragedy.


I think we're at cross purposes here - let me clarify if I may:
   ~  I have no absolutely no problem with Ronnie doing what he did to get the 8 Olympias.  You and I agree on that.
   ~  We also agree that some people are driven to extreme lengths to achieve greatness - often ending tragically - that's life...

Where it appears you and I differ in our opinions is on the relative merit of what's happening now - once he was retired and had the first surgery he no longer needed to do what he did - his achievements are set in stone and he was fully mobile - he could have had a long, fruitful and profitable life trading on his epic achievements.

In short:  continuously breaking his back when he no longer needs to does not feed into him achieving/retaining his greatness.  It diminishes it.

As for people 'hating' on him:  I choose 2 reasons to mock - not hate - Ronnie
   1)  Spending $2M on unnecessary surgery (and by unnecessary I specifically mean self-inflicted/avoidable)
   2)  Blaming the surgeon

Does this make sense?

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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #167 on: October 31, 2018, 07:20:38 AM »
Once again another prime example of someone who reacts emotionally to a point of view rather than present an argument to refute my position. Just a personal insult.

And you also show, like others on this thread, how you simply misunderstand the opinions I present and read into things I did not mean.

Whether one is content about his mediocrity is quite different from the fact that he is. I'm sure most people would like to have done and accomplished more in their life but were unwilling to do what it takes or
unable to for a variety of factors beyond their control. You can aspire to be the President all you want but there are simply mitigating factors beyond your control that prevent this dream from coming true.

And success and greatness are entirely two different things. Why do I have to explain this to you? There are many people who are very successful in life. Many people that have enriched the lives of many. But that's the point. There are many of them. Greatest is reserved for a precious few. I don't know you or the person I referred to as mediocre as a point of fact but I'm just playing the odds. Chances are overwhelming that anything that you, or anybody else on this board, have done that thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, and certainly millions, if you add in historic content, that others have not done as well. That doesn't mean you weren't successful and didn't live a meaningful, fulfilling life -- but great? Do you think you have achieved greatness?

We all like to think that we are special. That there is some spark or have that "something-something" as Questin Tarantino use it call it, in us that distinguished us from the pack. Remember how Gronk use to always hint about how he was some genetic marvel. That if he took it seriously he could have been a top pro. That he achieved such a high level and imagine how he would be if he juiced. And when he finally announced he would go to the dark side we saw that there was really no change in his physique. At least nothing one would expect from a first-time juicer let alone a genetic marvel he claimed to me. That he was no natural genetic marvel. That he was just lying all along.

The fact is that you and I are not special. That we are just ordinary guys trying to keep body and soul together. Trying to do the best that our inclination, drive, and talents allow. That we are never going to achieve anything that thousands of others before, present and after us haven't achieved as well is nothing to feel insulted or hurt about.

You can be angry, call me names, think I'm a bad person; but what you can't do is prove me wrong with a coherent argument devoid of name calling and gay imagery.

Being mediocre, being average, is not meant as an insult. It's simply a fact. Being average, that bloated middle of the Bell Curve, is simply, by definition, where the vast majority of us reside. As the asymptote to the right of the curve gets closer and closer to zero -- that is where greatness lies. As I said, that is reserved for a precious few. Also by definition. There's no shame in not being in that lofty position. We can still be successful, happy and fulfilled.


I’m not gonna read all that, Waldo.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #168 on: October 31, 2018, 07:21:52 AM »

I must admit I'm enjoying this thread - it's provoking some good discussions...  8)

You’re a real asshole.

How do you know he’s content with mediocrity? Not successful?

A majority of folks who achieve one heck of a lot do so without fanfare and celebrity.

Get a clue, Waldo.

Thanks dude - solid points, but I'm not sure we'd get far with this without a shared definition of success...  If we're talking fame as an indicator then yes, I am unsuccessful (thank God!  ;D)


This is utter nonsense. I know and have met many people in my life who no one outside of their inner circles will ever hear of. But they have, and continue to, help people and save lives and talk down suicidal teens. But I guess because you have never heard of them, they have achieved nothing.

But I guess i can't say anything. Because I haven't, nor ever will, achieve anything of note in life. Being succesful in life means having people around you that value you because of what you bring into their lives. How much of a benefit, versus a drain, you are on those around you and the rest of society.

But hey, if they're not famous, and you haven't heard of them, I guess their lives will have amounted to nothing.

Exactly - does fame always = greatness..?
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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #169 on: October 31, 2018, 01:47:33 PM »
Every one of your posts when you bring up “success” you base it on money ::)

You do know that everyone is different but of course, you most ikely not successful at anything. Aren’t you in your 50’s, a lone, no significant other? Not to mention the other “success” intangibles

My point is no one has to be like Ronnie to be successful, he was and is an idiot at this point of stage in life

Phil Heath, kai Greene and the others I mentioned are just as successful If not more at their lifestyles and are not crippled beyond belief like this idiot


Maybe cos Ronnie has 20 years on these guys you dumb fuck. Use your brain before making stupid comparisons.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #170 on: October 31, 2018, 01:51:49 PM »

What’s funny is I never talked shit about Ronnie or any bbers “success” or lack of, my only thing with Ronnie is the guy is mental case at this point, he’s delusional, the screws breaking, the constant trying to lift heavy weights and always getting surgery

My point is there’s many ways to do it and he’s not smart at all, Jay, Phil, Kai, dexter, Dorian, Haney, are doing well and not in the state Ronnie is in, this is bbing after all, not playing pro football, baseball, etc..

I’m sure the top guys aren’t piss poor but I wonder how accurate that is, not that it has any affects on anyone but them

I’ve spoken to him many times and have seen him quite a bit , doesn’t live too far from me, there’s no jealously or hate from me to him



Do you actually know what youre talking about? Have you seen Coleman workout recently?
He was benching 1 plate per side last time I looked. Is that 'heavy' to you?  ::)

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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #171 on: October 31, 2018, 01:58:55 PM »
I think we're at cross purposes here - let me clarify if I may:
   ~  I have no absolutely no problem with Ronnie doing what he did to get the 8 Olympias.  You and I agree on that.
   ~  We also agree that some people are driven to extreme lengths to achieve greatness - often ending tragically - that's life...

Where it appears you and I differ in our opinions is on the relative merit of what's happening now - once he was retired and had the first surgery he no longer needed to do what he did - his achievements are set in stone and he was fully mobile - he could have had a long, fruitful and profitable life trading on his epic achievements.

In short:  continuously breaking his back when he no longer needs to does not feed into him achieving/retaining his greatness.  It diminishes it.

As for people 'hating' on him:  I choose 2 reasons to mock - not hate - Ronnie
   1)  Spending $2M on unnecessary surgery (and by unnecessary I specifically mean self-inflicted/avoidable)
   2)  Blaming the surgeon

Does this make sense?

Cheers
Taf

Whats happening now is the guy still enjoys a hobby. Whats the problem?
Yes it might be easier for him to sit at home and get fat , but he enjoys the routine that hes had for 30 years or however long its been.
Each to their own.

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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #172 on: October 31, 2018, 03:05:31 PM »
Whats happening now is the guy still enjoys a hobby. Whats the problem?
Yes it might be easier for him to sit at home and get fat , but he enjoys the routine that hes had for 30 years or however long its been.
Each to their own.

This is a dumb argument.

The problem, and of course, it's only Ronnie's problem, is that he likely ignored his doctor's advice and kept lifting heavy, swinging the weights around, which led to the constant breaking of the screws. Ronnie could have easily done cardio, lifted light, and not get fat. You realize you don't need to lift heavy and swing the weights to stay lean, correct?

This is beyond a hobby. It's an addiction that he cannot stop, despite all the evidence that he should stop lifting the way he does in order to avoid future injuries.
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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #173 on: October 31, 2018, 03:42:58 PM »
I think we're at cross purposes here - let me clarify if I may:
   ~  I have no absolutely no problem with Ronnie doing what he did to get the 8 Olympias.  You and I agree on that.
   ~  We also agree that some people are driven to extreme lengths to achieve greatness - often ending tragically - that's life...

Where it appears you and I differ in our opinions is on the relative merit of what's happening now - once he was retired and had the first surgery he no longer needed to do what he did - his achievements are set in stone and he was fully mobile - he could have had a long, fruitful and profitable life trading on his epic achievements.

In short:  continuously breaking his back when he no longer needs to does not feed into him achieving/retaining his greatness.  It diminishes it.

As for people 'hating' on him:  I choose 2 reasons to mock - not hate - Ronnie
   1)  Spending $2M on unnecessary surgery (and by unnecessary I specifically mean self-inflicted/avoidable)
   2)  Blaming the surgeon

Does this make sense?

Cheers
Taf

Yes, that makes a lot of sense and thanks for clarifying that.

What he is doing NOW is irrational and foolish, just like my diabetic friend who continues to gorge himself with foods he loves. But I think at some point in life you are just concerned about doing what you enjoy, what gives your life meaning, then health concerns. I don't mock and ridicule my friend. I just shake my head. He's crippled already just like Ronnie is and nothing there's nothing he can do to ever walk again. He is very aware that he may have to get his legs amputated as the necrosis progresses. But he figures his legs are useless anyway.  I guess he considers it worth it as long as he can keep eating malasadas and ice cream.

If Ronnie is paying for these surgeries out of pocket then fine. If not, then I think the insurance company should place restrictions and not just continue to pay for these surgeries no questions asked. Just like if someone gets a liver replacement and continues to drink himself to death. At some point you shouldn't have to enable irresponsible behavior,

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Re: Ronnie Coleman "i might never walk again"
« Reply #174 on: October 31, 2018, 03:45:54 PM »
I’m not gonna read all that, Waldo.

I understand. When a subject invokes serious discussion it gets a bit over your head and taxes the upper limit of your attention span and your brain starts to sputter.

"Waldo"?

You prove my point.