Why is Trump lying about a middle class tax cut

[Straw Man]

I'm sure our resident Trumptards haven't heard about this (which would give you something in common with Congress) but Trump has said a few times in recent days that he's putting together a resolution to give the middle class a 10% tax cut?

Only problem is that Congress is on recess so they can't do anything and on top of that they haven't got a clue what Trump is talking about.

Why does he feel the need to lie about this.  Why not just run on the former lie that the tax cut they passed this year was for the middle class.   Many Trumptards actually believe that bullshit so there is no need to make up a new and more ridiculous lie.

Trump is also been lying recently about how he and Republicans support protecting coverage for pre-existing conditions.
In reality, Trump’s Justice Department is arguing in court that the Affordable Care Act’s protections for pre-existing medical conditions are unconstitutional and should be nullified. On top of that, his administration explicitly supported a bill passed by House Republicans that would have weakened those protections.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is also trying to have it both ways, claiming that Republican senators universally support protecting people with pre-existing conditions, while voicing his support for the lawsuit and another repeal effort.

Is there anyone out there actually falling for this total bullshit

[Board_SHERIF]

fake news victimized you yet again I see.................

[Straw Man]

fake news victimized you yet again I see.................

I guess you're referring to the fact that Trump is creating fake news with these two lies.

I (and most people) know Trump is lying about these two things

I'm just wondering why he is resorting to new lies rather than just running on the old lies

[Kwon3]

obligatory 2nd pity post, since the 2nd post was you replying to your own thread

[Straw Man]

obligatory 2nd pity post, since the 2nd post was you replying to your own thread

don't bother

pretty obvious that our resident Trumptards can't defend these lies

[Coach is Back!]

The original tax cuts have already helped the "middle class" but another 10% is nice. BTW, did you ever answer my question about how you think this is Obama's economy?

[chaos]

I'm sure our resident Trumptards haven't heard about this (which would give you something in common with Congress) but Trump has said a few times in recent days that he's putting together a resolution to give the middle class a 10% tax cut?

Only problem is that Congress is on recess so they can't do anything and on top of that they haven't got a clue what Trump is talking about.

Why does he feel the need to lie about this.  Why not just run on the former lie that the tax cut they passed this year was for the middle class.   Many Trumptards actually believe that bullshit so there is no need to make up a new and more ridiculous lie.

Trump is also been lying recently about how he and Republicans support protecting coverage for pre-existing conditions.
In reality, Trump’s Justice Department is arguing in court that the Affordable Care Act’s protections for pre-existing medical conditions are unconstitutional and should be nullified. On top of that, his administration explicitly supported a bill passed by House Republicans that would have weakened those protections.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is also trying to have it both ways, claiming that Republican senators universally support protecting people with pre-existing conditions, while voicing his support for the lawsuit and another repeal effort.

Is there anyone out there actually falling for this total bullshit

Trump says he's putting together a resolution and you say he's lying because congress is on recess? LOL

[Kwon3]

The first tax cuts were passed and business picked up soon after. There's no delayed-start to economic cycles, they come and go in waves. There's no doubt that that very wave hit a nadir under Obama that was NOT his fault since it started under Bush, but which he did nothing to improve during his 8 years in office. The national debt ballooned as he borrowed to pay for a growing social security and obamacare user grid without cutting taxes. It didn't work.

This economy didn't kick in when Trump took office. It took a solid 8-10 months for investors to trust his rhetoric and start investing, hiring, buying, expanding etc. their businesses and stock purchases as they saw regulations shrink and money coming in from the cuts again. Then there's the fact that healthcare is being scaled back because it's unwieldly and very expensive, not to mention unpopular (it should have a near-100% approval rate according to its creators, yet it doesn't go above 65% for very good reasons). He's saving money and shrinking government. The only major expansion proposed is the Space Force, which is still in the exploratory stage.

[Straw Man]

Trump says he's putting together a resolution and you say he's lying because congress is on recess? LOL

ah yes, a resolution

is that how tax legislation gets done in this country?

I'm not surprised someone like you fell for that

[Straw Man]

The first tax cuts were passed and business picked up soon after. There's no delayed-start to economic cycles, they come and go in waves. There's no doubt that that very wave hit a nadir under Obama that was NOT his fault since it started under Bush, but which he did nothing to improve during his 8 years in office. The national debt ballooned as he borrowed to pay for a growing social security and obamacare user grid without cutting taxes. It didn't work.

This economy didn't kick in when Trump took office. It took a solid 8-10 months for investors to trust his rhetoric and start investing, hiring, buying, expanding etc. their businesses and stock purchases as they saw regulations shrink and money coming in from the cuts again. Then there's the fact that healthcare is being scaled back because it's unwieldly and very expensive, not to mention unpopular (it should have a near-100% approval rate according to its creators, yet it doesn't go above 65% for very good reasons). He's saving money and shrinking government. The only major expansion proposed is the Space Force, which is still in the exploratory stage.

the economy has been growing for last 7 years

tax cut that Repulicans passed gives most of the benefit to business and the super wealthy

The middle class got a TEMPORARY tax cut of between 1-2%

Whoop De Doo!!

Trump first full budget has the highest deficit in 6 years

Putting all that aside - the 10% tax cut for the middle class that Trump claims will happen in the next few weeks is an outright LIE

 

[Kwon3]

the economy has been growing for last 7 years

tax cut that Repulicans passed gives most of the benefit to business and the super wealthy

The middle class got a TEMPORARY tax cut of between 1-2%

Whoop De Doo!!

Trump first full budget has the highest deficit in 6 years

Yeah, well, nobody said otherwise. Tax cuts are always for the rich, since rich is a perceived status symbol rather than a quantified (through net worth) social stratum. In other words, to someone living below poverty or scraping by with 2 jobs, "middle-class" people probably appear pretty rich with their large houses and decent year-model cars and 4 kids in school. They don't even think of the "super" rich like Soros or Bezos or Cuban because those guys are in another stratosphere altogether. Only legitimate millionaires resent getting smaller tax cuts than the superrich billionaires they look up to and emulate (within their limits).

Everyone else was pretty much satisfied with getting SOMETHING back and now they're getting even more back. It might end up being 10% cumulatively if you count the first cut, but it won't probably be in one shot like he implied. Big deal. He didn't release his taxes and the world didn't end, even CNN gave up asking for them. They'll do the same with the tax cut for the rich (who do, after all, create jobs and offer a net gain to society) and ignore that after a month too when their bitching loses them ratings again like it did all last summer when Hannity raped their picnics for 5 months straight after all that illegal caravan shit broke out and most recently the Kavanaugh mess that alienated so many independents who were just about ready to vote for anyone who wasn't Trump. Quite a few have changed their minds about that now.

Putting all that aside - the 10% tax cut for the middle class that Trump claims will happen in the next few weeks is an outright LIE

So? Cry about it.

[chaos]

ah yes, a resolution

is that how tax legislation gets done in this country?

I'm not surprised someone like you fell for that

Sooo go ahead and prove that he's not working on a tax cut for the middle class.

[Straw Man]

Yeah, well, nobody said otherwise. Tax cuts are always for the rich, since rich is a perceived status symbol rather than a quantified (through net worth) social stratum. In other words, to someone living below poverty or scraping by with 2 jobs, "middle-class" people probably appear pretty rich with their large houses and decent year-model cars and 4 kids in school. They don't even think of the "super" rich like Soros or Bezos or Cuban because those guys are in another stratosphere altogether. Only legitimate millionaires resent getting smaller tax cuts than the superrich billionaires they look up to and emulate (within their limits).

Everyone else was pretty much satisfied with getting SOMETHING back and now they're getting even more back. It might end up being 10% cumulatively if you count the first cut, but it won't probably be in one shot like he implied. Big deal. He didn't release his taxes and the world didn't end, even CNN gave up asking for them. They'll do the same with the tax cut for the rich (who do, after all, create jobs and offer a net gain to society) and ignore that after a month too when their bitching loses them ratings again like it did all last summer when Hannity raped their picnics for 5 months straight after all that illegal caravan shit broke out and most recently the Kavanaugh mess that alienated so many independents who were just about ready to vote for anyone who wasn't Trump. Quite a few have changed their minds about that now.

So? Cry about it.

Glad to hear that at least you're not delusional and you know it a lie

I'll remind you of that any time you bitch about anyone lying

[Straw Man]

Sooo go ahead and prove that he's not working on a tax cut for the middle class.

You're welcome to believe it if you prefer.
The facts say otherwise but since when did Trumptards concern themselves with facts

Same goes for the lie about protecting coverage for pre-existing conditions
The facts (their actual actions) show neither Trump nor Republicans care about that either

Of course, Trump thinks he needs these lies now in the last few weeks of the campaign to try to wrangle every last sucker that he can and of course the usual schmucks like yourself and our phony coach were already on board.

Trump could had you a bowl of dogshit and tell you it's chocolate ice cream and you'd gobble it up without ever stopping to question why it looks, smells and tastes like shit .  You would just naturally assume that your own senses must be lying to you because there is no way the Dear Leader would ever try to deceive you.

[chaos]

Cool story bro.

[Kwon3]

Glad to hear that at least you're not delusional and you know it a lie

I'll remind you of that any time you bitch about anyone lying

Which I've done a sum total of zero of since posting here in terms of anyone else that posts here, so your homework is already done. If you mean politicians, it's fair game, since you do the same and so do the other progressive bigots and societal arsonists that post here.

[Agnostic007]

I guess you're referring to the fact that Trump is creating fake news with these two lies.

I (and most people) know Trump is lying about these two things

I'm just wondering why he is resorting to new lies rather than just running on the old lies

Trump has learned that he can literally say anything and it doesn't matter. I do suspect sometimes he is pushing the limit just to see how far he can go before his base calls bullshit. So far, he's gotten a green light to just say whatever pops into his head. I am waiting for the day when even Hannity goes "Wait what?!?" I thought we hit that a few times already but Hannity, bless his heart is a true soldier for the cause

[Primemuscle]

I'm sure our resident Trumptards haven't heard about this (which would give you something in common with Congress) but Trump has said a few times in recent days that he's putting together a resolution to give the middle class a 10% tax cut?

Only problem is that Congress is on recess so they can't do anything and on top of that they haven't got a clue what Trump is talking about.

Why does he feel the need to lie about this.  Why not just run on the former lie that the tax cut they passed this year was for the middle class.   Many Trumptards actually believe that bullshit so there is no need to make up a new and more ridiculous lie.

Trump is also been lying recently about how he and Republicans support protecting coverage for pre-existing conditions.
In reality, Trump’s Justice Department is arguing in court that the Affordable Care Act’s protections for pre-existing medical conditions are unconstitutional and should be nullified. On top of that, his administration explicitly supported a bill passed by House Republicans that would have weakened those protections.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is also trying to have it both ways, claiming that Republican senators universally support protecting people with pre-existing conditions, while voicing his support for the lawsuit and another repeal effort.

Is there anyone out there actually falling for this total bullshit

Let's throw all these lying babies out with their stanky, cesspool bath water and start fresh!

Unfortunately, a whole lot of people are falling for this bullshit, hook line and sinker.

[Humble Narcissist]

the economy has been growing for last 7 years

tax cut that Repulicans passed gives most of the benefit to business and the super wealthy

The middle class got a TEMPORARY tax cut of between 1-2%

Whoop De Doo!!

Trump first full budget has the highest deficit in 6 years

Putting all that aside - the 10% tax cut for the middle class that Trump claims will happen in the next few weeks is an outright LIE

 

The people who pay the taxes get the tax cuts.  Why is that criminal to libs?

[IroNat]

Getbiggers are 1%'ers and don't need tax cuts or any of that stuff anyway.

[Kwon3]

My wife and I sold some property recently and paid a lot less capitol gains tax .
In fact, we got a much bigger tax refund then any previous year. 100% serious.

I'm no Trump voter, but, if he  stuck with (mostly) economic issues and acted like Reagan, I might be for him.

so basically you have no values, you just vote for whoever serves your economic interests
yep, that's a real democrat if I ever met one

[Straw Man]

Which I've done a sum total of zero of since posting here in terms of anyone else that posts here, so your homework is already done. If you mean politicians, it's fair game, since you do the same and so do the other progressive bigots and societal arsonists that post here.

well to be fair I don't read your posts

I just assumed you were another Trumptard who has ranted about "fake news"

Glad to hear you never done that and don't believe that bullshit

[Kwon3]

well to be fair I don't read your posts

I just assumed you were another Trumptard who has ranted about "fake news"

Glad to hear you never done that and don't believe that bullshit

You've been wrong about everything else you've posted, so why not add that to the list of things you read backwards. 

[Straw Man]

You've been wrong about everything else you've posted, so why not add that to the list of things you read backwards. 

like I said

glad to see that you unique among Trumptards and don't buy into the moronic "fake news" meme by the Liar in Chief

[Kwon3]

like I said

glad to see that you unique among Trumptards and don't buy into the moronic "fake news" meme by the Liar in Chief

I've posted several threads where the channels you approve of are lying through their teeth, so I'm not sure where you're coming from with that. As far as I'm concerned 100% of the opinion-based programming of CNN and MSNBC is false.