Boy Scouts Possibly Filing for Bankruptcy

[Coach is Back!]

https://ilovemyfreedom.org/just-months-after-allowing-girls-into-their-program-boy-scouts-facing-bankruptcy/?utm_source=star&utm_medium=twitter

[XFACTOR]

https://ilovemyfreedom.org/just-months-after-allowing-girls-into-their-program-boy-scouts-facing-bankruptcy/?utm_source=star&utm_medium=twitter

Coach., come on dude you have to be a little smarter than what you portray. What kind of sites are you informing yourself from? If you’re looking at a .org site built that shitty it’s probably not reliable.

[pellius]

Appears to be people that support fucking little boys on here. Weird people man. Dude it’s not just a few. It’s A LOT. It would make sense they can’t afford to keep going with those kind of legal fees.

A lot? Could you refer us to such reports? I would  think it would be big news like with gymnastics.
And why would you make the leap that anyone that supports pedophilia? Do you feel that way if someone wanted to send their kids to gymnastics?

[XFACTOR]

A lot? Could you refer us to such reports? I would  think it would be big news like with gymnastics.
And why would you make the leap that anyone that supports pedophilia? Do you feel that way if someone wanted to send their kids to gymnastics?

You’re too dumb to debate with, not interested. I think you were one of the dudes that’s in to that shit Gymnastics is not a single entity like Boy Scouts.

[pellius]

You’re too dumb to debate with, not interested. I think you were one of the dudes that’s in to that shit Gymnastics is not a single entity like Boy Scouts.

As typical of you, you just spout off your opinion and insult those that disagree with you.

Still wearing your cap on backwards and slinging your pants so low like a gangsta teenager?

[Humble Narcissist]

You’re too dumb to debate with, not interested. I think you were one of the dudes that’s in to that shit Gymnastics is not a single entity like Boy Scouts.

The entity that is the Boy Scouts is made up of troops in practically every town in America so it's not actually a single entity either.  People like you site a few examples of abuse over decades and use that to tarnish a once great organization.  It was the left coming in and forcing the scouts to accept gay scout leaders that started the problem.

[XFACTOR]

The entity that is the Boy Scouts is made up of troops in practically every town in America so it's not actually a single entity either.  People like you site a few examples of abuse over decades and use that to tarnish a once great organization.  It was the left coming in and forcing the scouts to accept gay scout leaders that started the problem.

A few? There’s tens of thousands.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-boyscouts-abuse/boy-scout-files-reveal-long-history-of-child-sex-abuse-cases-idUSBRE89H0ZF20121018

[pellius]

There's a reason the Boy Scouts grew so popular and became such a large and influential organizations. They promoted a value system base on Christianity and traditionally male traits such as self-reliance, respect, honor, and duty. These are values most parents at the time wanted to instill in their children.

Not everyone agreed with their value system. One kid I knew parents wouldn't  allow him to join because they were Atheist. That's fine and people went their own way.

But then the Left grew more powerful and influential. Rather then start their own organization promoting their own value system they seek to change existing organization that took decades to build. They know deep down that if they tried to start an Atheist or gay organization it will fail.

The Left does not build. They destroy. Always seeking to change establish institutions to comport with their own world view. Whether it be forcing all men institutions to take in women, changing names of schools, even forcing others to do work for you that promotes values you don't believe in -- like baking a cake for a gay wedding.

This is unique to the Left. You never see the Right forcing an existing organization to include Christianity or force women organizations or schools to accept men.

There are many reasons why the Boy Scouts are failing but one of the reasons is that it isn't the Boy Scouts anymore.

[wes]

Another American institution goes the way of the dinosaur. 

[SF1900]

There's a reason the Boy Scouts grew so popular and became such a large and influential organizations. They promoted a value system base on Christianity and traditionally male traits such as self-reliance, respect, honor, and duty. These are values most parents at the time wanted to instill in their children.

Not everyone agreed with their value system. One kid I knew parents wouldn't  allow him to join because they were Atheist. That's fine and people went their own way.

But then the Left grew more powerful and influential. Rather then start their own organization promoting their own value system they seek to change existing organization that took decades to build. They know deep down that if they tried to start an Atheist or gay organization it will fail.

The Left does not build. They destroy. Always seeking to change establish institutions to comport with their own world view. Whether it be forcing all men institutions to take in women, changing names of schools, even forcing others to do work for you that promotes values you don't believe in -- like baking a cake for a gay wedding.

This is unique to the Left. You never see the Right forcing an existing organization to include Christianity or force women organizations or schools to accept men.

There are many reasons why the Boy Scouts are failing but one of the reasons is that it isn't the Boy Scouts anymore.

Then those established institutions should voice their opinion and not change. If they are altering their worldview to meet the demands of the Left, that is their own fault. Everyone in America wants to change the culture to suit their own agenda. Religious zealots have been doing this for centuries.

For what it's worth, I was part of the Boy Scouts for two weeks and thought it sucked, so I quit. 

[pellius]

The Catholic church has been molesting children for centuries and continues to do so. And they shuffle the priests from church to church to avoid prosecution. This is WIDESPREAD with thousands and tens of thousands of children being hurt. Despicable.

Not for centuries. After Vatican 2.

There will always be bad seeds in any organization. The litmus test is not that there are bad people doing bad things but how the organization handles it. Some Americans commit war crimes as do Muslims. We punish our war criminals. The Muslims celebrate them.

I believed when this was first brought to light in the Catholic church that it was just a small minority of bad seeds. With the recent allegations it has become apparent that it is an institutional moral sin that is covered up and therefore tacitly tolerated. As if it's just part of the church. Sort of like sports and steroids. People know everyone uses them but it's openly considered wrong and discourage but in private vials and pill changes hands.

Despite being a life long Catholic and promising my dying father that I will always remain true to my faith, I could no longer be part of the Catholic church and left some months ago.

[SF1900]

Not for centuries. After Vatican 2.

There will always be bad seeds in any organization. The litmus test is not that there are bad people doing bad things but how the organization handles it. Some Americans commit war crimes as do Muslims. We punish our war criminals. The Muslims celebrate them.

I believed when this was first brought to light in the Catholic church that it was just a small minority of bad seeds. With the recent allegations it has become apparent that it is an institutional moral sin that is covered up and therefore tacitly tolerated. As if it's just part of the church. Sort of like sports and steroids. People know everyone uses them but it's openly considered wrong and discourage but in private vials and pill changes hands.

Despite being a life long Catholic and promising my dying father that I will always remain true to my faith, I could no longer be part of the Catholic church and left some months ago.

It's more than a "few" bad seeds. It's THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS!! Not just a "few here and there." This scandal is HUGELY being exposed. The Catholic Church has done everything in its power to handle it in a horrible way. It's despicable. I can't fathom how anyone can be part of such an organization any more.

[pellius]

Then those established institutions should voice their opinion and not change. If they are altering their worldview to meet the demands of the Left, that is their own fault. Everyone in America wants to change the culture to suit their own agenda. Religious zealots have been doing this for centuries.

For what it's worth, I was part of the Boy Scouts for two weeks and thought it sucked, so I quit. 

You are absolutely right. The Boy Scouts did not hold true to their convictions and didn't fight for what they believed in.

Now they are paying the price.

[pellius]

It's more than a "few" bad seeds. It's THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS!! Not just a "few here and there." This scandal is HUGELY being exposed. The Catholic Church has done everything in its power to handle it in a horrible way. It's despicable. I can't fathom how anyone can be part of such an organization any more.

Did you even read my entire post? I agree and that's why despite being a life long Catholic I left the church.

[XFACTOR]

It's more than a "few" bad seeds. It's THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS!! Not just a "few here and there." This scandal is HUGELY being exposed. The Catholic Church has done everything in its power to handle it in a horrible way. It's despicable. I can't fathom how anyone can be part of such an organization any more.

Preach on brotha. What they did in Brazil was absolutely terrible. Actually Catholics do everywhere is horrible. Religious people scare me.

[SF1900]

Did you even read my entire post? I agree and that's why despite being a life long Catholic I left the church.

Yes, I did and I know that you agreed me.  I just wanted to continue my rant. It was cathartic   

[SF1900]

Preach on brotha. What they did in Brazil was absolutely terrible. Actually Catholics do everywhere is horrible. Religious people scare me.

Another one exposed in Philadelphia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_abuse_scandal_in_the_Catholic_Archdiocese_of_Philadelphia

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Key-Dates-in-the-Pennsylvania-Church-Abuse-Scandal-490857191.html

[SF1900]

Did you even read my entire post? I agree and that's why despite being a life long Catholic I left the church.

This is the thing: If the religious conservatives had their way, they would LOVE for America to be a theocracy. And you know it. I know many conservatives who believe this country would be better off if it was run like a theocracy, followed by Christian-Judeo principles. The problem, is they do not have the power or voice to make this happen, but you bet your ass if they did, they would love for it to happen and would have no problem making America a theocracy and "going back to the way things were in the 1700's or whatever." . But again, it's out of their reach, so do they don't toy with the idea because they don't have the power to accomplish such a goal.

When the Left seizes an opportunity to exert their power and alter society, they will do so, just like the Right would if the pendulum swung back in their direction. In every society or culture, the group in power will modify society to fit their worldview. Right now its the Left with their Progressive ideas. Maybe in 100 years, it will be the conservatives.

[pellius]

This is the thing: If the religious conservatives had their way, they would LOVE for America to be a theocracy. And you know it. I know many conservatives who believe this country would be better off if it was run like a theocracy, followed by Christian-Judeo principles. The problem, is they do not have the power or voice to make this happen, but you bet your ass if they did, they would love for it to happen and would have no problem making America a theocracy and "going back to the way things were in the 1700's or whatever." . But again, it's out of their reach, so do they don't toy with the idea because they don't have the power to accomplish such a goal.

When the Left seizes an opportunity to exert their power and alter society, they will do so, just like the Right would if the pendulum swung back in their direction. In every society or culture, the group in power will modify society to fit their worldview. Right now its the Left with their Progressive ideas. Maybe in 100 years, it will be the conservatives.

Simply not true. One of our founding principles was for a secular government but, admittedly, a religious culture. Remember, one of the reasons people came here was to escape religious persecution.

Speaking for myself, everyone I know, as well as political pundits and conservative commentators (Limbaugh, Hannity, Hewitt, Prayer...), none would want to see a State run religion. All insist on a secular government.

[pellius]

This is the thing: If the religious conservatives had their way, they would LOVE for America to be a theocracy. And you know it. I know many conservatives who believe this country would be better off if it was run like a theocracy, followed by Christian-Judeo principles. The problem, is they do not have the power or voice to make this happen, but you bet your ass if they did, they would love for it to happen and would have no problem making America a theocracy and "going back to the way things were in the 1700's or whatever." . But again, it's out of their reach, so do they don't toy with the idea because they don't have the power to accomplish such a goal.

When the Left seizes an opportunity to exert their power and alter society, they will do so, just like the Right would if the pendulum swung back in their direction. In every society or culture, the group in power will modify society to fit their worldview. Right now its the Left with their Progressive ideas. Maybe in 100 years, it will be the conservatives.

Also, it's  not so much the right wanting to "seize power" to promote their value system but rather to preserve, or conserve if you will, tradition value systems that has withstood the test of time like marriage and family being run by a mother and father.

[illuminati]

The entity that is the Boy Scouts is made up of troops in practically every town in America so it's not actually a single entity either.  People like you site a few examples of abuse over decades and use that to tarnish a once great organization.  It was the left coming in and forcing the scouts to accept gay scout leaders that started the problem.

Beggars belief Why the Left Would want to do that.

[SF1900]

Simply not true. One of our founding principles was for a secular government but, admittedly, a religious culture. Remember, one of the reasons people came here was to escape religious persecution.

Speaking for myself, everyone I know, as well as political pundits and conservative commentators (Limbaugh, Hannity, Hewitt, Prayer...), none would want to see a State run religion. All insist on a secular government.

I am talking about civilians. If the average republican conservative (civilian) could turn it into a theocracy, they would in a heartbeat.

[Bevo]

As long as the IFBB isn’t filing from bankruptcy we should be fine

[SF1900]

Also, it's  not so much the right wanting to "seize power" to promote their value system but rather to preserve, or conserve if you will, tradition value systems that has withstood the test of time like marriage and family being run by a mother and father.

You're making up excuses. It's to hold onto power. Humans are extremely motivated by power. When your worldview is the dominant one, of course one feels a sense of power. A fundamental attribute of human nature is to preserve one's culture because it offers a sense of dominance and power over others.

Further, I don't care about traditional value systems, except within the context of good evidence. Something could be a traditional value but not align with good evidence. Many "traditional values" have gone by the way side because it's been proven to be wrong. Again, I don't care how old or new the stance is. I care whether it stands up to the scrutiny of good evidence. That should be the only parameters in which a value system should be examined--not because "well, it was done in the past."

[Zillotch]

A fundamental attribute of human nature is to preserve one's culture because it offers a sense of dominance and power over others.

this line of insidious garbage, authored for imbeciles, when viewed thru the most perverted lens of 'multiculturalism'... is a sure recipe for disaster.