History repeats itself. Innocent people will die.

[IRON CROSS]

Everyone concerned about the US securing Syria and their border but not our own border

Strangely ( ) nobody talks about 764 km long wall between Turkey & Syria financed by EU.

[Slapper]

We did it in Vietnam. We did it in Iraq. And now we are doing it in Syria.

Thousand of innocent people were slaughtered then. Thousands will be slaughtered now. And under a Republican President no less.

I just don't get it.

General James Mattis just announced his retirement.

Hate to say it dude, millions of people have died, are dying and will die eventually of natural and unnatural causes and there isn't a single thing you, me, us, or anyone else can do about it.

I understand some are delusional enough to think that their actions can bring about world change and harmony but... it doesn't.

Learn to live understanding some things: 1. You are not perfect, 2. The world isn't a perfect place and it will NEVER be, 3. You will die eventually and so will everyone else and 4. Energy, including negative energy, just doesn't disappear, it moves on to something else.

We, as humans, aren't even supposed to be here. Everything around us is hostile to living things. Volcanos don't give a shit about your car. Tsunamis can care less about your beach chair. A tornado doesn't give a flying fuck about your feelings.

We exist in a hostile and complex system. Do your best not to fuck it up (YOUR actions, not someone else's) and be the best human being you can be.

[IroNat]

Strangely ( ) nobody talks about 764 km long wall between Turkey & Syria financed by EU.

Would the EU be nice enough to pay for the wall between the US and Mexico?

[pellius]

Everyone concerned about the US securing Syria and their border but not our own border

What on earth makes you think that? You can care about both. And, truth be told, most Americans don't even know where Syria is let alone care one whit about it.

[Primemuscle]

history is written by the victors. force for good my ass... it was a damn lie that got us into Iraq (wmd's)

and never accuse me of not loving America or appreciating her.... or else I may have to do some digging into your past posts about 15 13 yr old girls, etc.

[pellius]

Hate to say it dude, millions of people have died, are dying and will die eventually of natural and unnatural causes and there isn't a single thing you, me, us, or anyone else can do about it.

I understand some are delusional enough to think that their actions can bring about world change and harmony but... it doesn't.

Learn to live understanding some things: 1. You are not perfect, 2. The world isn't a perfect place and it will NEVER be, 3. You will die eventually and so will everyone else and 4. Energy, including negative energy, just doesn't disappear, it moves on to something else.

We, as humans, aren't even supposed to be here. Everything around us is hostile to living things. Volcanos don't give a shit about your car. Tsunamis can care less about your beach chair. A tornado doesn't give a flying fuck about your feelings.

We exist in a hostile and complex system. Do your best not to fuck it up (YOUR actions, not someone else's) and be the best human being you can be.

I was going to respond to each point you made but this is probably one of the most foolish, out of left field, naive, cacophy of utter nonsense I have ever read on this board. I wish I knew you in real life so I could maybe figure out how a grown adult, presumably mentally stable, could develop such a beyond absurd world view. This is flat earth/reptilian hybrid kind of talk.

Seriously. You caught me flat footed on this one.

Wow. Just wow.

[Primemuscle]

Hate to say it dude, millions of people have died, are dying and will die eventually of natural and unnatural causes and there isn't a single thing you, me, us, or anyone else can do about it.
 

Doctors save lives everyday. That's just one example, but there are many others.

[honest]

I cannot let my hate of Democrats cloud my judgement anymore, I also don’t give two whites about Syrians and understand the position of getting out, but doing it without telling the Turks to back off from the Kurds is not right, the Turks are now going to look to take territory and that’s not right, turning your back on allies like them is not right, leave but do it with the Turks recognising that whilst they don’t have to accept their territory as sovereign, but they do need to accept their status and position as an ally of the USA.
Leaving the way he’s leaving is a dog act and he looks no
Different to other us presidents who have done similar.
You should not serve your own self interests as a person or s nation in such a way, I don’t agree with what he’s done here, I still wouldn’t vote democrat ever, but he’s lost on this act. Poor Kurds.

[pellius]

Doctors save lives everyday. That's just one example, but there are many others.

Sure we all die but to argue that it doesn't when and how we die is just incomprehensibly asinine.

I've seen this fellas name pop up here and there in threads over the years but never really paid much attention. Now I am utterly fascinated with him and will pay much closer attention when he writes.

How do people get this way?

[chaos]

What on earth makes you think that? You can care about both. And, truth be told, most Americans don't even know where Syria is let alone care one whit about it.

You didn't start a thread about innocent Americans losing their lives.

[IRON CROSS]

Would the EU be nice enough to pay for the wall between the US and Mexico?

No problems there, just contact J.C. Juncker (aka Juncker the Drunker) when drunk he will sign anything.

Go to YouTube & search about him 

Why not constructing Canadian wall 2 !.
 

[IroNat]

Billions for defense but not one cent for a wall!

 

[The Scott]

150 billion to Iran was it?  But nothing for a wall for America.  Anyone that is a Democrat is without a moral compass and should be deported to muslime lands to live out the rest of their lives.

Shame on any and all that oppose protecting our Nation. 

[Conker]

Once again you lie and just make things up. I never said the Kurds wanted to topple Assad. I never said it was a humanitarian mission.

Other than that I agree with the rest of what you said. Surprised that you have some understanding, better than most, of this situation. Maybe you're not completely hopeless.

Now get back to the chicken plant

you said (roughly) "this is what happens when dictators fight the people", referring to the kurds. the kurds are not syrian people or at least not as they view themselves.

how can you agree with what i said? it's in complete contradiction to everything you've posted. you think US troops were in syria stopping "slaughter" . i say that's BS.

you're saying the kurds are your "ally" . the kurds are no more your ally than al qaeda were in libya (and syria). the kurdish fighters you're backing are more or less a splinter group of the PKK a US outlawed terrorist group.

none of these groups are your allies, they all know the duplicitous nature of the US and co and that you can and will change allegiance at the drop of a hat. it was nothing more than an alliance of convenience.

[Slapper]

Doctors save lives everyday. That's just one example, but there are many others.

I'm talking holistically dude.

[Slapper]

I was going to respond to each point you made but this is probably one of the most foolish, out of left field, naive, cacophy of utter nonsense I have ever read on this board. I wish I knew you in real life so I could maybe figure out how a grown adult, presumably mentally stable, could develop such a beyond absurd world view. This is flat earth/reptilian hybrid kind of talk.

Seriously. You caught me flat footed on this one.

Wow. Just wow.

Dude, make your word count. Put some umpt behind what you say. Don't scream murder when you all you have is a scratch on your arm.

Exaggerations are a telltale sign that that which you are trying to convince people of is simply unconvincing.

Insults are usually the next step in the arsenal of bullshit stories.

[sarcafago]

how can you agree with what i said? it's in complete contradiction to everything you've posted. 

[pellius]

you said (roughly) "this is what happens when dictators fight the people", referring to the kurds. the kurds are not syrian people or at least not as they view themselves.

how can you agree with what i said? it's in complete contradiction to everything you've posted. you think US troops were in syria stopping "slaughter" . i say that's BS.

you're saying the kurds are your "ally" . the kurds are no more your ally than al qaeda were in libya (and syria). the kurdish fighters you're backing are more or less a splinter group of the PKK a US outlawed terrorist group.

none of these groups are your allies, they all know the duplicitous nature of the US and co and that you can and will change allegiance at the drop of a hat. it was nothing more than an alliance of convenience.

Please just kill yourself already.

You are worse than worthless you filthy Paki inbred.

[pellius]

Dude, make your word count. Put some umpt behind what you say. Don't scream murder when you all you have is a scratch on your arm.

Exaggerations are a telltale sign that that which you are trying to convince people of is simply unconvincing.

Insults are usually the next step in the arsenal of bullshit stories.

Of course, Slapper. Anything you say. You fascinate me and have made this board a bit more interesting for me.

** puts in a headlock and gives an affectionate noogie **

[pellius]

are you always this polite and considerate or did you make an extra special effort on this occasion?

This is definitely a special case.

[Conker]

are you always this polite and considerate or did you make an extra special effort on this occasion?

the irony is pelius looks way more like the image he's posted than i ever do!

ffs people use pics of pelius as their avi because he's such a fked up weird looking creature! lol

[SuperTed]

We did the absolute right thing in taking out Hussein. If we didn't, due to his expansionist policies and attacking every one of his neighbors, we would be living in a different world today and not just because of high gas prices.

Erdogan has vowed to destroy the Kurds. We have just given him the green light. I know some people don't care about the wholesale slaughter of innocent men, women, and children. You should thank God that you live in this country and not have to worry, or even care, about the suffering of others, a blessing you did nothing to earn or deserve. You just won one of life's lottery.

I care, and so do many others, about all people, not just Americans. If we can save innocent lives then we should.
We have an all-volunteer Army. Everyone who joins the military understands, or should understand, that despite all the other benefits they get, their primary duty is to defend and fight for this country for its interest. And if we are going to be a force for good in this world, and we are, then that also means defending those who are innocent and can't defend themselves.
 

You're speaking like someone who can best be described as being a useful idiot. Politicians, especially war-hawks, adore people such as yourself.
Hussein barely had a competent army, let alone WMD's which would have made him capable of pursuing expansionist policies. Iraq has been a disaster.
The Kurdish forces (which are mostly a collection of radical Marxists/Communists) are "allies" much like the Mujahideen (Tablian) have previously been allies of America.

[Humble Narcissist]

Sure we all die but to argue that it doesn't when and how we die is just incomprehensibly asinine.

I've seen this fellas name pop up here and there in threads over the years but never really paid much attention. Now I am utterly fascinated with him and will pay much closer attention when he writes.

How do people get this way?

It's called the nihilistic philosophy and it is a very popular philosophy today in popular culture.  It is one of the main reasons why out culture is going to Hell in a hand basket.

[Humble Narcissist]

when could today no longer afford a handcart

Soon it will be smaller than a wallet.

[Kazan]

I believe it is very important to give credit where credit is due.

-President Barack Obama created the conditions for ISIS to flourish in 2010 and 2011, when he essentially stopped talking to Maliki, and then ordered the sudden drawdown in IZ (which caught DoD completely by surprise).

-President Barack Obama armed ISIS when his administration flooded Syria with hundreds of tons of light, medium, and heavy weapons (with John Brennan taking a major role in shifting those weapons from Libya to Syria).

-President Barack Obama then avoided targeting ISIS because of his fantasy unicorn force of amazingly moderate freedom fighters that was supposedly prevalent and mixed in among ISIS. Obama repeatedly denied ISIS was a problem, even as ISIS took over a vast swath of territory.

I am not a big fan of President Trump. That said, President Trump cleaned up the mess he inherited from Barack Obama. DJT did so without constantly blaming BHO for creating the mess (BHO blamed GWB for everything bad that happened from 2009-2017).

DJT has demonstrated a willingness to develop situations, as opposed to allowing situations to develop. That shows leadership and willingness to take decisive action. That is a marked departure from the Obama Admin's "Leading From Behind" policies. That makes some folks uncomfortable, because some folks don't understand that failure to make a decision is still making a decision, albeit a bad one.

Barack Obama's foreign policy will continue to fester and cause issues that DJT will have to clean up. BHO's ill-advised actions created problems with no good solution, but DJT is playing the hand he was dealt.

So...in all seriousness, if you have an issue with how President Trump acts, and you didn't have an issue with how President Obama acted, you have an infantile view of foreign policy. Stick to Instagram pictures of cupcakes and Facebook updates from Justin Bieber.