USADA and the UFC Covering for Jon Jones Once Again

[spiro]

This will just drive more fighters and fans over to Bellator which IMO will take over the UFC in the not too distant future. People are sick of Dana Whites bullshit.

That will never happen.

[HTexan]

That will never happen.

Yup, people deal with that douche dana, even if everyone hates him, because that is where the money is. Plus dana has a bitch fit if people fight in a different League

[Royalty]

If by chance, Jones ends up losing next week, what are the chances that the UFC will suddenly find a way to “divorce” themselves from Jones?

[Stephano]

The funniest scenario would be one where Jones beats the brakes off of Gus, then pops again for Turinabol.

It's also quite a likely scenario.  The Swede sucks, and Jones is a crooked son of a bitch.

[SOMEPARTS]

Mark Hunt spreading some holiday cheer

https://mmajunkie.com/2018/12/ufc-232-mark-hunt-rips-dana-white-jon-jones

“Hey everyone let’s move the whole Ufc show in a week for a cheater promoting and condoning steroids isn’t ok @UFC @jeffnovitzkyufc @DanaWhite and @JonnyBones your a worthless cheating lil rat @alexthemauler don’t bother this loser isn’t on your level this peice of shit company has always promoted cheaters and now they moving the show in one week from Vegas to California for money they certainly have taken away my love for fighting (expletive) scummy theives I hope everyone sues the ass out of u (expletives) (expletive) trash Oh and merry Christmas to all u (expletives) dahahahahaha and a happy new (expletive) steroid year”

Haha. Joe Rogan spent 15 minutes trying to cloud this issue on his podcast. So, after a year the question is - was the level a small percentage of the original level? If not then he's used again. Seems pretty simple. Moving the show is enough admission of guilt I'd say.

[Mr.1derful]

 Nothing is consistent with USADA or Jeff Novitsky.
11 months ago Novitsky stated on the Joe Rogan podcast that the test that detects the long term metabolites was ‘several months’, at the time, and the test a few months after the positive one at 214 came back negative. He presented this information as a reason why he believed Jones to be innocent. However come to December 2018, he’s now suggesting that they can detect it longer than originally stated and that the drug can not only last that long, but stay at the relative same amount (2017: 20-80pc/mL, 2018: 60pc/mL). These are conflicting stories.
Andy Foster also stated to Helwani that USADA have no way to know for sure if this was a new ingestion, they just believe it to be so. In addition to this, Andy Foster also stated that not every test is done to the same level of sophistication. Why are they testing to a worse degree sometimes?
His first test since the USADA violation, on record, was August 2018, so what test was Novitsky referring to after 214? Anyway, why was the first ‘on record’ test for someone that had previously violated the system twice, only in August of the following year? 
They are providing information that the drug ‘pulses’, yet this info was not presented before the Californian commission, nor mentioned at all in the past 18 months, with the non-change in the amount the drugs half-life would have to be over 18 months, which by any biological substance standard is obscene/ ridiculous.

In conclusion:
- They don’t know if it’s a old or new consumption
- They for some reason don’t test the same all the time, so some drugs can go undetected and do knowingly as they had for Jones.
- They have changed their outlook on Turinabol in the calendar year
- Jones had no tests until August 2018, yet as soon as fight camp started he popped.
- Jones popped for around the same dosage they believed to be enough to ban him for a 15 months, yet now see it as non-enhancing.
- It’s kept in the fats of the body, but for some reason elongates a half-life to over 18 months?
- This is the first case of this ‘pulsing’ being mentioned and used as reputable defence in MMA. Yet completely ignored the previous cases.

[SOMEPARTS]

Turinabol is said to have a 16 hour half life. What are we even talking about here?

[Coach is Back!]

I’ve been talking about this and researching this since yesterday and it’s still sounds like bullshit. Along with the 16hr half life it’s total detection time is up to 20 days. I swear I’ve talked to 6 fighters that are still in and former in the UFC and everyone one of them thinks it’s bullshit including one that’s on the 232 card.

[a_pupil]

I’ve been talking about this and researching this since yesterday and it’s still sounds like bullshit. Along with the 16hr half life it’s total detection time is up to 20 days. I swear I’ve talked to 6 fighters that are still in and formed in the UFC and everyone of them thinks it’s bullshit including one that’s on the 232 card.

how come turanibol? doesn't it make sense to micro-dose test,hgh and insulin?

[Powerlift66]

Yet the NFL can ban for "Unknown / unrecognized substance". 

[oldschoolfan]

If by chance, Jones ends up losing next week, what are the chances that the UFC will suddenly find a way to “divorce” themselves from Jones?

royalty jon jones is a piece of shit, no doubt but they will keep his black ass around because he is one of the few ppv draws they have at the moment

[Coach is Back!]

how come turanibol? doesn't it make sense to micro-dose test,hgh and insulin?

Because I don't think him (especially him) or his handlers didn't do their research with the exception of it being short-acting and thinking if he gets off the drug far enough in advance he would pass the test. I'm not aware of his test even being published anywhere for people to see. So far all we have from is Dana White and Jeff Novitzky is hearsay and all of these "experts" that Novitzki mentions in interviews are still not named. The UFC has A LOT if power and deep pockets to cover this this this up....just sayin'

[oldschoolfan]

the ufc basically keep usada in business, i am willing to bet usada makes millions per year off the ufc with all the drug testing they do.

[Coach is Back!]

the ufc basically keep usada in business, i am willing to bet usada makes millions per year off the ufc with all the drug testing they do.

USADA has their hands in almost everything. I have a friend in Arizona who is a very reputable track coach that has his own facility (Altis). They have the reputation of producing world-class athletes with record times. One of my athletes went trained at his facility last year and a rep for USADA shows up and starts asking questions about drug use, if they've been tested, training, etc, etc. One morning at 5am on the button USADA shows up at my athletes door wanting to interview him, his parents, his sister and then later in that day they show up at my facility to interview myself and my other coaches.

Bottom line, they're trying (and to the best of my knowledge, still) to take over Dan Pfaff and his Altis facility and programs by threatening fines if they don't cooporate.....problem is, they, he didn't do anything wrong. They just produced great athletes.

[Coach is Back!]

People are pissed

[dseiler]

Being at the top of your game in one area usually means you're lacking in another.

Sometimes the swing is huge.

[20inch calves]

I hope jon jones loses..i doubt he will...but i can hope

[Mr.1derful]

I hope jon jones loses..i doubt he will...but i can hope

I hope so too.  He's a dirt bag.

[Kwon]

Most of the Jon Jones-debacle explained.

[Coach is Back!]

Nailed it!!

I don't know one person that doesn't think this fight is bullshit

[Coach is Back!]

[Kwon]

Nailed it!!

I don't know one person that doesn't think this fight is bullshit

Would love to see a breakdown from Coach as well.

[Coach is Back!]

Would love to see a breakdown from Coach as well.

I already did. I train mostly at a UFC gym and hoping I don’t get kicked out

[Thin Lizzy]

Haha. Joe Rogan spent 15 minutes trying to cloud this issue on his podcast. So, after a year the question is - was the level a small percentage of the original level? If not then he's used again. Seems pretty simple. Moving the show is enough admission of guilt I'd say.

Listening to Dana UFC embedded, it seemed like the opposite. Unless I misunderstood, Dana said the amount was so high that Jones couldn’t have taken it. Seemed like he was questioning USADA.

[Coach is Back!]

Jeff Novitzky is a liar