It's been talked about ad nauseam. Just assume that it's used but don't make an ass of yourselves trying to prove a point. It's no use in trying to have a rational discussion with most of the posters who have never trained for bodybuilding, competed, dieted, took gear (but will drink, smoke weed, snort coke, smoke cigarettes or just take recreational drugs or just flat out fat) or trained hard enough, etc but will criticize others by what they read on the boards or my favorite..."I have a friend who said" or "I know someone who trained with so and so and he said..." when in reality they don't know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to it.
Honestly, Getbig is the LEAST bodybuilding friendly site as far as bodybuilding sites go. Go right down at least the first page of the G&O and tell me how many, at the very least training related subjects.
The G&O is about gossip and opinions. There is a training, diet and nutrition, bodybuilding history, women's bodybuilding, powerlifting and steroids sections exclusively for those subjects.
I used 1 cycle of Sustanon in 1997 and gained 25lbs. Up until that point I had trained for years and not gained close to that even using heavy squats, deadlifts, strongman routines, powerlifting routines, 20 rep squat routines, Big Beyond Belief, Titan Training System, Bulgarian Powerburst Training, HIT, along with dozens of routines in the magazines. If the internet had been around when I was a teenager I would have saved myself a lot of wasted effort along with thousands of dollars of worthless supplements. I'm guessing there are many here that share my opinion and this is why we bust the balls of those who compete or just brag about physiques that are drug assisted. All of those who use want to play it down like it doesn't do much for them when we all know that is false.
Earlier Nick's Strength & Health Youtube video was posted of him showing his preparation for a natural contest and how he went from 220 down to 147 to compete. That is what a natural really shrinks down to when dieting without the drugs.
