90-year old American cyclist to be stripped of title for failing drug test

[D.O.A.]

 For "Epitrenbolone" no less! Lol. At 90 its still an pretty impressive fact he is a cyclist and on the juice.

He claims consuming contaminated meat is to blame for the positive test result.

USADA making sure to keep the sport clean and fair. Jones is another story..


https://sports.yahoo.com/90-year-old-american-cyclist-will-stripped-title-failing-drug-test-173702680.html

[Twaddle]

LMAO that he's denying it.  If I were him, "Fuck y'all, I'm 90.  I'll do whatever I want!"

 

[Coach is Back!]

LMAO that he's denying it.  If I were him, "Fuck y'all, I'm 90.  I'll do whatever I want!"

 

Exactly. Fuck USADA

[Primemuscle]

Rules are rules. If exceptions are allowed, what's the point in having the rule in the first place? Performance enhancing drugs give those using them an unfair advantage over those who don't. It as simple as that.

[Humble Narcissist]

Let all athletes take whatever they want.  It eliminates any advantages and at the same time saves money trying to catch guys cheating.  I want to see a bunch of jacked 90 year olds.

[illuminati]

Let all athletes take whatever they want.  It eliminates any advantages and at the same time saves money trying to catch guys cheating.  I want to see a bunch of jacked 90 year olds.

In broad terms I agree with what you’re saying.

It would stop the farcical hypocrisy that goes on now with top athletes
In all sports having to deny any PED use.

[lilhawk1]

Let all athletes take whatever they want.  It eliminates any advantages and at the same time saves money trying to catch guys cheating.  I want to see a bunch of jacked 90 year olds.

Then you'll have to give them access to all the same drugs.  Maybe have them sponsored by Lilly, or Pfizer. 

[Griffith]

Rules are rules. If exceptions are allowed, what's the point in having the rule in the first place? Performance enhancing drugs give those using them an unfair advantage over those who don't. It as simple as that.

They're using anyway, most pro athletes at least.

[oldtimer1]

Let all athletes take whatever they want.  It eliminates any advantages and at the same time saves money trying to catch guys cheating.  I want to see a bunch of jacked 90 year olds.

No, I want a clean sport. I don't want high school football players juicing with the thought of maybe I'll get a D-1 scholarship and a chance at the pros. Why would any parent want their kid involved in sports if the only way to compete was to use drugs?

[IroNat]

No, I want a clean sport. I don't want high school football players juicing with the thought of maybe I'll get a D-1 scholarship and a chance at the pros. Why would any parent want their kid involved in sports if the only way to compete was to use drugs?

Absolutely.

[D.O.A.]

LMAO that he's denying it.  If I were him, "Fuck y'all, I'm 90.  I'll do whatever I want!"

 

Exactly!

[Humble Narcissist]

No, I want a clean sport. I don't want high school football players juicing with the thought of maybe I'll get a D-1 scholarship and a chance at the pros. Why would any parent want their kid involved in sports if the only way to compete was to use drugs?

Do you think high schools test for steroids now?

[Griffith]

No, I want a clean sport. I don't want high school football players juicing with the thought of maybe I'll get a D-1 scholarship and a chance at the pros. Why would any parent want their kid involved in sports if the only way to compete was to use drugs?

A lot are probably using anyway.

I know that it's quite prevalent in rugby, they use in the off-season to bulk up.

[Dave D]

No, I want a clean sport. I don't want high school football players juicing with the thought of maybe I'll get a D-1 scholarship and a chance at the pros. Why would any parent want their kid involved in sports if the only way to compete was to use drugs?

What you're describing isn't a drug problem, it's a mentality that the end justifies the means.  The thought that everyone is using or I need to win at all costs is a belief system, no different than naturals who compete drug free because it's "right".

High school sports are clean and even if pro sports legalized a drug that doesn't mean its going to be approved on the amateur level (i.e. marijuana).

The reality is not everyone is created equal and life isnt fair and steroids dont even the playing field.

[illuminati]

No, I want a clean sport. I don't want high school football players juicing with the thought of maybe I'll get a D-1 scholarship and a chance at the pros. Why would any parent want their kid involved in sports if the only way to compete was to use drugs?

What is clean sport - Please define

What drugs or natural stimulants would you allow if any

[IroNat]

What is clean sport - Please define

What drugs or natural stimulants would you allow if any

Why ask a question you know the answer to?

[Griffith]

Why ask a question you know the answer to?

At pro level, do you believe most of the athletes are 'clean'?

[illuminati]

Why ask a question you know the answer to?

Wrong.
 I asked because I want to know what he / you consider a clean sport
And what stimulants Natural or otherwise you consider Wrong or not to be used.

[IroNat]

Wrong.
 I asked because I want to know what he / you consider a clean sport
And what stimulants Natural or otherwise you consider Wrong or not to be used.

Whatever the ruling body of the sport prohibits should not be used.

[illuminati]

Whatever the ruling body of the sport prohibits should not be used

Okay - A fair enough answer.

Though it skirted some of my questions
And doesn’t necessarily make them Natural
Look at the absolute nonsense around the ‘Therapeutic use’ rule
In cycling & likely other sports.

[Primemuscle]

Let all athletes take whatever they want.  It eliminates any advantages and at the same time saves money trying to catch guys cheating.  I want to see a bunch of jacked 90 year olds.

Good luck with what you want to see.  I'm not sure your idea would eliminate all advantage. IMO, both controlled and open competitions can co-exist as long as long as it is made clear and only those folks entering restricted, drug free competitions  need to be tested. This is already the case. It's not clear to me that drug free contests are well monitored.

Note: I may be bias since I am on HRT. Since there is almost no chance that I would compete, it is a moot point.

[Humble Narcissist]

Good luck with what you want to see.  I'm not sure your idea would eliminate all advantage. IMO, both controlled and open competitions can co-exist as long as long as it is made clear and only those folks entering restricted, drug free competitions  need to be tested. This is already the case. It's not clear to me that drug free contests are well monitored.

Note: I may be bias since I am on HRT. Since there is almost no chance that I would compete, it is a moot point.

In professional sports we know athletes are constantly finding ways to beat the tests.  In the NFL even the owners say 75% of the players smoke weed.  When someone fails a drug test they are demonized by the sports media when they know almost everyone else is doing it as well.  In baseball Bonds, Clemens and Sosa among others were chastised for using and are being kept out of the Hall of Fame when we have no idea how many Hall of Famers from the past used steroids but we do know pinks and grays (amphetamines) were used throughout the 70's and 80's.

It is obvious many drug tested bodybuilders and powerlifters are using and passing the tests and this is admitted by competitors.  What kind of mindset is needed to be proud of winning a contest against natties when you know you are juiced?  These guys must be sociopaths.

[Primemuscle]

In professional sports we know athletes are constantly finding ways to beat the tests.  In the NFL even the owners say 75% of the players smoke weed.  When someone fails a drug test they are demonized by the sports media when they know almost everyone else is doing it as well.  In baseball Bonds, Clemens and Sosa among others were chastised for using and are being kept out of the Hall of Fame when we have no idea how many Hall of Famers from the past used steroids but we do know pinks and grays (amphetamines) were used throughout the 70's and 80's.

It is obvious many drug tested bodybuilders and powerlifters are using and passing the tests and this is admitted by competitors.  What kind of mindset is needed to be proud of winning a contest against natties when you know you are juiced?  These guys must be sociopaths.

A very strong term, but agreed. Hollow wins, just like the trophies handed out.

[IroNat]

In professional sports we know athletes are constantly finding ways to beat the tests.  In the NFL even the owners say 75% of the players smoke weed.  When someone fails a drug test they are demonized by the sports media when they know almost everyone else is doing it as well.  In baseball Bonds, Clemens and Sosa among others were chastised for using and are being kept out of the Hall of Fame when we have no idea how many Hall of Famers from the past used steroids but we do know pinks and grays (amphetamines) were used throughout the 70's and 80's.

It is obvious many drug tested bodybuilders and powerlifters are using and passing the tests and this is admitted by competitors.  What kind of mindset is needed to be proud of winning a contest against natties when you know you are juiced?  These guys must be sociopaths.

It's a win-at-all-costs mentality.

The end justifies the means.

War is where this is appropriate because survival is at stake.

Bodybulders are warriors in the ultimate battle for survival against the iron.

The gym is a merciless and unforgiving arena.

[Primemuscle]

It's a win-at-all-costs mentality.

The end justifies the means.

War is where this is appropriate because survival is at stake.

Bodybulders are warriors in the ultimate battle for survival against the iron.

Many bodybuilders live in a insular environment where narcissism and absurdity become reality.