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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2019, 05:34:52 AM »
I thought MGTOW was guys not getting married because the family court laws are designed to destroy men? I didn't think it was forgetting about woman and moving to a remote cabin and living like a monk.

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2019, 05:47:25 AM »
While I have some sympathy for the movement, it's just a coping mechanism for many within it. Most MGTOW types still wouldn't turn down the chance of being in a relationship with a hot woman if the opportunity arose. 

Exactly. It’s purely for disgruntled men who have a hard time finding a woman.
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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2019, 05:52:00 AM »
I read the Reddit sub on it a bit and some related subs. There are a lot of women hating men there, I even had comments deleted calling out their bullshit on just hating women blatantly and thinking men are perfect. Plenty of men are fucking trash.

The main part of it makes perfect sense, the courts and divorce or even LTR separation are heavily in favour of women, or in favour of the lower earner in the relationship which is mostly women, and guys get fucked on hard. Especially when kids are involved. It's not worth the risk to get married or be in a LTR where the courts suddenly have control over your finances.


They can talk about wage gap, women in the workforce all day, facts are many women want to find a provider and have kids, while looking after the kids and not working. That was fine in the 50's and would be fine today if men didn't get so fucked on in divorce. Seen it happen many times even to my friends in their 30's. It's not worth it unless the woman has more money than you and even then the courts could fuck you over.

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2019, 05:55:40 AM »
A lot of men in this thread who have a hard time finding a women.

 A lot of men in this thread who have a hard time finding a dictionary.

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2019, 06:07:59 AM »
In the West, there seems to be an obsession with classifying everything and giving names to every possible mindset, viewpoint, 'condition' and 'identity'.

Many people are so obsessed with trying to find some meaning or reasons in every small thing.


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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2019, 06:27:35 AM »

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2019, 06:43:20 AM »
Exactly. It’s purely for disgruntled men who have a hard time finding a woman.

No, it isn't.  I already explained it.  Now you're just trolling.

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2019, 06:48:25 AM »
I thought MGTOW was guys not getting married because the family court laws are designed to destroy men? I didn't think it was forgetting about woman and moving to a remote cabin and living like a monk.

For some it is.  There are different classifications and degrees of MGTOW:    

Level 0 — Situational Awareness: the member has taken the red pill and embraces the idea that gender equality is a lie and propaganda. Women have significant rights/privileges over men, and this makes them dangerous.

Level 1— Rejection of Long-Term Relationships: the man rejects long-term relationships but will still partake in short-term relationships and sexual encounters. One night stands can be recorded and serves some protection against false accusations. It is near impossible to record an entire marriage or relationship.

Level 2—Rejection of Short-Term Relationships: the member won’t participate in hook-ups or any form of short-term or sexual relationships. Very very safe, but not entirely foolproof.

Level 3—Rejection of even being friends with a woman.

Level 4—Rejection of engaging women who are strangers. Avoiding female strangers completely (besides basic things like ordering food). Not volunteering to help a woman out as she could falsely accuse you of something for being too nice. No unnecessary small talk with stranger women. No saying “hi”. No eye contact with them.

Level 5— Strongly limiting interaction with women at work or elsewhere. Only speak to them for work related duties. No personal conversations or talk. You are neutral to women. No display of hate or love, they are like computers at work—only to be consulted for doing the job. Nothing else. They are objects for doing a job, nothing else. You do not speak to them for anything, nor provide any emotional support for them. You leave them alone completely unless needed for work duties. You politely shut them off and let them know you are not interested in conversing with them.

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2019, 06:50:21 AM »
It's an understandable reaction to "social engineering".
Most men have always been driven by pussy and if you take the chance/"guarantee" out of the equation then it's over.

Women's erratic and hostile behaviour doesn't help either. Instead of saying in a straight fashion what they expect it's always a "HA! I behave disrespectful until you show some investment!".
I vividly remember how bossy and self entitled a part of the "upper class women" were... all of course accompanied by the "muh women's right sonatas".

Not good.

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2019, 06:59:28 AM »
I read the Reddit sub on it a bit and some related subs. There are a lot of women hating men there, I even had comments deleted calling out their bullshit on just hating women blatantly and thinking men are perfect. Plenty of men are fucking trash.

The main part of it makes perfect sense, the courts and divorce or even LTR separation are heavily in favour of women, or in favour of the lower earner in the relationship which is mostly women, and guys get fucked on hard. Especially when kids are involved. It's not worth the risk to get married or be in a LTR where the courts suddenly have control over your finances.


They can talk about wage gap, women in the workforce all day, facts are many women want to find a provider and have kids, while looking after the kids and not working. That was fine in the 50's and would be fine today if men didn't get so fucked on in divorce. Seen it happen many times even to my friends in their 30's. It's not worth it unless the woman has more money than you and even then the courts could fuck you over.


i don't get that part. they think men are prefect, but for the most part men make the laws that make family court rule in favor of women. which one is it

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2019, 09:09:55 AM »
Are women really that bad these days that they are not worth having? It’s only been 13 year or so since I was single and The lad who works with me echos what is said online and reckons all women nowadays are the same as his lass who is lazy as fuck and barely lifts a finger in the house, expects him to pay for everything and wait on her hand and foot, lets him come to work with no food as she is too lazy to put him any bait up. She is also fat as fuck with a bin lid sized face and the manners of a pig to boot purposefully farting in his face and picks her nose and feeds it to the dog and is an absolute bitch who treats him like utter shit to top it all off.

I ask him what the fuck he is doing putting up with with that shit but he reckons that is the state of most lasses these days, i don’t believe him but if that’s true I would stay single for life if I ever found myself on my own again.

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2019, 11:38:15 AM »
sounds like a self pity group for men who would can not or will not accept the world as it is
Actually they do accept the world as it is and that's why they are MGTOW.

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2019, 11:49:02 AM »
sounds like a self pity group for men who would can not or will not accept the world as it is

No, they DO accept the world as it is and they simply choose not to participate.   

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2019, 11:52:43 AM »
No, they DO accept the world as it is and they simply choose not to participate.   
Same thing.

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2019, 12:58:42 PM »
Are women really that bad these days that they are not worth having? It’s only been 13 year or so since I was single and The lad who works with me echos what is said online and reckons all women nowadays are the same as his lass who is lazy as fuck and barely lifts a finger in the house, expects him to pay for everything and wait on her hand and foot, lets him come to work with no food as she is too lazy to put him any bait up. She is also fat as fuck with a bin lid sized face and the manners of a pig to boot purposefully farting in his face and picks her nose and feeds it to the dog and is an absolute bitch who treats him like utter shit to top it all off.

I ask him what the fuck he is doing putting up with with that shit but he reckons that is the state of most lasses these days, i don’t believe him but if that’s true I would stay single for life if I ever found myself on my own again.

I think it's mainly American and some British women to a lesser degree.



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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2019, 02:06:30 PM »
Exactly. It’s purely for disgruntled men who have a hard time finding a woman.

Bullshit.  Totally not true. I hope your not a blue pill simp...
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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2019, 02:08:15 PM »
Bullshit.  Totally not true. I hope your not a blue pill simp...
Isn't SF1900 gay or am I confusing him with someone else?

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #42 on: January 08, 2019, 02:12:12 PM »
MGTOW is a good place to visit, but not to get attached to for life. Every man should go MGTOW for a brief period of time, just like cycling roids, you go on and off because its safer that way.
Sure there are many losers calling themselves MGTOW that probably are just bitter for women rejecting them, and also there are a lot of rational men, that just know how the game and law works in todays world and will not participate.

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #43 on: January 08, 2019, 02:20:27 PM »
You can be MGTOW and still have sex with women through dating, hookers and one night stands.  Just don't get married, live with or spend lots of cash on women.

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #44 on: January 08, 2019, 02:34:16 PM »
Bullshit.  Totally not true. I hope your not a blue pill simp...

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2019, 02:35:44 PM »
You can be MGTOW and still have sex with women through dating, hookers and one night stands.  Just don't get married, live with or spend lots of cash on women.

I'm not against MGTOW, hell I'm for it but I'm for relationships as well but ONLY when there is order and that means the woman knowing her place. Meaning she submits to a man, she's virtuous, dresses modestly, keeps her mouth shut when she's supposed to, doesn't think she's getting something for nothing.  The biggest mistake a man could make is getting married, WITH A MARRIAGE LICENSE THROUGH THE STATE.  You are thereby in a three party relationship and the state will resolve all your differences. You don't need a marriage license to get married, draw up your own contract and it is legal and binding and only between you and your wife.  This is the smart way to conduct business. Therefore the power is in your hands, not hers.  Research for yourselves.

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2019, 02:37:05 PM »
Rory and I are doing great!

Are you a Soyboy SF? Are you a male feminist?
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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2019, 02:38:46 PM »
I'm not against MGTOW, hell I'm for it but I'm for relationships as well but ONLY when there is order and that means the woman knowing her place. Meaning she submits to a man, she's virtuous, dresses modestly, keeps her mouth shut when she's supposed to, doesn't think she's getting something for nothing.  The biggest mistake a man could make is getting married, WITH A MARRIAGE LICENSE THROUGH THE STATE.  You are thereby in a three party relationship and the state will resolve all your differences. You don't need a marriage license to get married, draw up your own contract and it is legal and binding and only between you and your wife.  This is the smart way to conduct business. Therefore the power is in your hands, not hers.  Research for yourselves.

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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2019, 02:41:19 PM »
When men gain control of the sexual urges, the world is yours. The possibilities are endless. Nofap + MGTOW (or red pill) + fasting = success.  On another notes a book I suggest everyone read that set my transformation other than the Bible is Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. One of the most profound books I've ever read.  I read it two years ago and it changed my life.
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Re: MGTOW: cope or actual choice?
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2019, 02:47:15 PM »
She is also fat as fuck with a bin lid sized face and the manners of a pig to boot purposefully farting in his face and picks her nose and feeds it to the dog and is an absolute bitch who treats him like utter shit to top it all off.

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