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Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« on: January 16, 2019, 10:41:23 PM »
I think this is the first time he has come out and said this.


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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2019, 10:57:19 PM »
I think this is the first time he has come out and said this.



He came out a while ago.  Wrote a good book: Gorilla Suit.

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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2019, 11:28:16 PM »
He came out a while ago.  Wrote a good book: Gorilla Suit.

He came out as gay but not that he should have won the Mr Olympia and was cheated out of it.

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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2019, 11:40:49 PM »
He was a great bodybuilder and maybe he could have placed higher but no way could he have won either, sorry Bob

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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2019, 11:48:44 PM »
Paris looked good but he wasn't ripped or muscular enough. It was Haney's time. Paris never even placed in the top 6.

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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2019, 01:05:01 AM »
You could make an argument that he was robbed...but has anyone else aside from Bob proposed he should have won in either year?

This isn't Bertil Fox placing 5th in 1983.  I have no idea how that happened.  Dennis Wolf placing 5th in 2007 was something similar.  Sad, really.  But I would still say maybe 2nd was where both Fox & Wolf [LOL] belonged.

Is Bob suggesting bodybuilding is purely judged based on how pretty a man's physique is?  Because in that sense, yes, I can see Bob make an argument that he should have been Mr. O.  But he was beaten both years in terms of muscularity [Haney] and conditioning [Gaspari], and arguably, by more than one competitor in both areas.

I am a huge fan of Bob's physique, but I can't agree with him on this one.

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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2019, 03:39:47 AM »
He was penalized for being queer for sure but he was never even close to beating of being comparable to Lee Haney. Furthermore I'd like to know if he's insinuating that he was natural and what did he mean by drug morons.
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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2019, 03:47:21 AM »
He was penalized for being queer for sure but he was never even close to beating of being comparable to Lee Haney. Furthermore I'd like to know if he's insinuating that he was natural and what did he mean by drug morons.
No he wasn't penalized for being queer as Chris Dickerson was gay and that probably helped him when the O not hurt him.  Paris looked great but like you said no one was beating Haney in 84 and 85 or for years after.

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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2019, 04:02:34 AM »
Paris has discussed steroid use before and has said that he hated having to take them to compete.  It is out there for people to view (unless it was removed).     Paris got ripped off  because he decided to tell the world he was homosexual meanwhile you had plenty of other bodybuilders, who while they weren't telling the world were SELLING to the world.  Usually on street corners in West Hollywood.

As for Haney?  He wasn't that great.  Labrada should have beaten him a couple of times and was just as ripped off as Paris was.  Makkawy too.   Yes it's true that Paris sucked cocked but Haney's physique just plain sucked.  Looked like a drugged up gorilla.   But he (Haney) was a Weider Aflete ("No stayroids!  Juss goot food and  Weider supplements!") and Schmoe Weider even had him win 8 in a pathetically vainglorious effort to "teach Arnold a lesson" in humility.  Fuck Weider and fuck Haney.  Haney was good but Haney wasn't that good let alone great.

Say it one more time:  Fuck Weider and fuck Haney.  Like Yates, Coleman and especially heath, Haney didn't deserve all his doorstops (trophies).  Of course Wiggs will forever bob for Haney's balls because Lee is a black guy and skin color is all Wiggs cares about these days.   One more time, with feeling:  Skin color is all Wiggs cares about these days.  Just read his weird ass drivel on anything about how black people were ripped off for inventing the world, saving your soul and creating peanut butter.  FTN.

Bodybuilding can be highly subjective and there's nothing wrong with that so long as it's not subjected to bullshit, favoritism, who bends over in private over who comes out in public, etc.  But people are people and that means people can be fucking idiots.  Paris was robbed at least once and he's in good company.  Padilla, Makkawy, Platz, Labrada and more have all taken the fall and given the perverse habits of some of bodybuilding's "benefactors" perhaps it was because they wouldn't fall to their knees while others would.  Not always true but probably not always false either.


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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2019, 04:21:58 AM »
Paris has discussed steroid use before and has said that he hated having to take them to compete.  It is out there for people to view (unless it was removed).     Paris got ripped off  because he decided to tell the world he was homosexual meanwhile you had plenty of other bodybuilders, who while they weren't telling the world were SELLING to the world.  Usually on street corners in West Hollywood.

As for Haney?  He wasn't that great.  Labrada should have beaten him a couple of times and was just as ripped off as Paris was.  Makkawy too.   Yes it's true that Paris sucked cocked but Haney's physique just plain sucked.  Looked like a drugged up gorilla.   But he (Haney) was a Weider Aflete ("No stayroids!  Juss goot food and  Weider supplements!") and Schmoe Weider even had him win 8 in a pathetically vainglorious effort to "teach Arnold a lesson" in humility.  Fuck Weider and fuck Haney.  Haney was good but Haney wasn't that good let alone great.

Say it one more time:  Fuck Weider and fuck Haney.  Like Yates, Coleman and especially heath, Haney didn't deserve all his doorstops (trophies).  Of course Wiggs will forever bob for Haney's balls because Lee is a black guy and skin color is all Wiggs cares about these days.   One more time, with feeling:  Skin color is all Wiggs cares about these days.  Just read his weird ass drivel on anything about how black people were ripped off for inventing the world, saving your soul and creating peanut butter.  FTN.

Bodybuilding can be highly subjective and there's nothing wrong with that so long as it's not subjected to bullshit, favoritism, who bends over in private over who comes out in public, etc.  But people are people and that means people can be fucking idiots.  Paris was robbed at least once and he's in good company.  Padilla, Makkawy, Platz, Labrada and more have all taken the fall and given the perverse habits of some of bodybuilding's "benefactors" perhaps it was because they wouldn't fall to their knees while others would.  Not always true but probably not always false either.


Haney made all of those guys look like tiny tits.

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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2019, 04:32:28 AM »
Haney might not have been that great but he deserved all those wins. He was the best there at the time. Dorian too. Yeh Dorian didn't look the best from the front towards the end but from the side and back no-one was even remotely close.

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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2019, 04:32:37 AM »
Paris looked good but he wasn't ripped or muscular enough. It was Haney's time. Paris never even placed in the top 6.

Good point .

Bob Paris got few years late in to the scene ....he could have taken the Zane era without breaking a sweat .


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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2019, 04:34:47 AM »
Haney might not have been that great but he deserved all those wins. He was the best there at the time. Dorian too. Yeh Dorian didn't look the best from the front towards the end but from the side and back no-one was even remotely close.

Haney wasn't that great but he deserved his 8 sandows ..if he was great then he should've won 16 or 20 . ;D



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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2019, 04:36:09 AM »
Haney made all of those guys look like tiny tits.

And Louie made Haney and Yates look small but that didn't make Louie better, just bigger.  And Louie wasn't better than either Haney or Yates.  I think not feel, that Haney is vastly overrated.  If you don't, fine. Lee has the doorstops so my opinion is pretty much just that.  An opinion.  

I also think Haney was/is like the majority of bodybuilders, i.e., a liar.

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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2019, 04:37:17 AM »
Whether he is right or wrong it's bad form to come out and say you should have won.

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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2019, 04:40:22 AM »
Whether he is right or wrong it's bad form to come out and say you should have won.

After all this time, bad form has little to do with it.  He probably just wants to be in the news.  ;)

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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2019, 04:41:12 AM »
No he wasn't penalized for being queer as Chris Dickerson was gay and that probably helped him when the O not hurt him.  Paris looked great but like you said no one was beating Haney in 84 and 85 or for years after.


Dickerson didn't come out  when he won in 82' there was no such thing as "coming out" back then ... the world was naive or wanted to be


Bob Paris was the most marketable, handsome,articulated, tall "perfect" Bodybuilder since 1950's Steve Reeves...Weider DID NOT want by any means Paris to come out of the closet .....  the golden eggs chicken was killed when he did .

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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2019, 04:43:59 AM »
And Louie made Haney and Yates look small but that didn't make Louie better, just bigger.  And Louie wasn't better than either Haney or Yates.  I think not feel, that Haney is vastly overrated.  If you don't, fine. Lee has the doorstops so my opinion is pretty much just that.  An opinion.  

I also think Haney was/is like the majority of bodybuilders, i.e., a liar.
So you think Labrada should have beaten Haney?  Have you ever watched the videos of those competitions?

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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2019, 04:49:04 AM »
So you think Labrada should have beaten Haney?  Have you ever watched the videos of those competitions?

The comparison I offered was valid and effectively nullified your observations on size.   ;D

But...Yes, I have seen some of the footage.  I don't memorize them but there are at least a couple of times I thought Labrada won.  The judges didn't.  BFD.

Just because it doesn't affect my life (thank the negroe jeebus!) does not mean I cannot comment on it.  Haney's physique was fugly.  His face was fugly. His posing was fugly.  All subjective comments, I know but for the greater part so too is bodybuilding.  Haney was good but not great.   You think otherwise.  Fine.   

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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2019, 05:29:22 AM »
He was penalized for being queer for sure but he was never even close to beating of being comparable to Lee Haney. Furthermore I'd like to know if he's insinuating that he was natural and what did he mean by drug morons.

How was he penalized for being gay when they gave the Olympia to other notable gay men such as Chris Dickerson and Phil Heath??

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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2019, 05:36:28 AM »
And Louie made Haney and Yates look small but that didn't make Louie better, just bigger.  And Louie wasn't better than either Haney or Yates.  I think not feel, that Haney is vastly overrated.  If you don't, fine. Lee has the doorstops so my opinion is pretty much just that.  An opinion.  

I also think Haney was/is like the majority of bodybuilders, i.e., a liar.



1- Lou look bigger standing relaxed

2- When Lou posed he didn't look better than Dorian or Haney ...


3- When Haney flexed/posed, he dominated the entire line up, he looked even better than standing relaxed.


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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2019, 08:53:36 AM »
could argue he beat Lee Haney from an "aesthetic" point of view.

But definately not on mass and conditioning which matters in bb

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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2019, 09:06:20 AM »
Paris is a f aggot. Rod blew out his O ring in holy matrimony and now Bob wants payback by saying he should have won some Os.

P.S. Lou wasn’t bigger than Lee and Dorian, just taller. And nice calf implants.

P.P.S. Haney deserves his titles. Overall, one of the very greatest.

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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2019, 07:22:27 PM »
He's delusional if he thinks he should have beat Haney. Haney was much bigger and in better condition.

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Re: Bob Paris says he should have won the O in 84 and 85
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2019, 07:38:58 PM »
He's delusional if he thinks he should have beat Haney. Haney was much bigger and in better condition.

I am far from delusional and I think Paris was sometimes superior to Haney.  Same with Labrada.  Bigger is not always better but it is always bigger.  Haney was an ugly lump of coal that Weider shoved up his ass until he shat out what he considered a diamond and declared it to be so.  BFD.  I don't much care for Haney or his physique but others do.

As stated, he has 8 doorstops.  And there you have it.  ;D