Author Topic: The funniest, saddest and most real video about natural bodybuilding (Read 6294 times)

Pray_4_War · « **on:** January 20, 2019, 07:07:50 AM »

This guys is great. Nick's Strength and Power is the Youtube channel. Is he on Getbig?

J. Richards · « **Reply #1 on:** January 20, 2019, 07:56:56 AM »

220... down to 143...

and he didn't have a six pack still when down to 180...? not having a bit of a six pack and some decent definition and vascularity "pre-diet..or pre-competition" or whatever you wanna call it... well... don't expect great results..... that's the truth about natural bodybuilding..... you gotta stay looking pretty good all the time..... just the way it is ...

Wiggs · « **Reply #2 on:** January 20, 2019, 07:59:49 AM »

Nick is Wiggs Approved. I've been with Nick since the beginning, it's been great seeing his channel grow. I'm happy for all his success. He's doing bodybuilding right.

Pray_4_War · « **Reply #3 on:** January 20, 2019, 08:00:44 AM »

"I'm ashamed of how fuckin' small I was. I mean, 143....that's what girls weigh"

Hahahahaha!

stuntmovie · « **Reply #4 on:** January 20, 2019, 08:22:18 AM »

Interestng video and well presented, but I'm not entirely convinced that roids are required to look good enough to win a natural contest and look decent enough to do so.

In NICK's case ... it could possibly be a 'heredity problem/situation" as we hve all seen 143 pound kids in a ripped up condition without prepping for a contest..

I'm hopeing that Tres Taco will be seeing this and offer some comment.

Pray_4_War · « **Reply #5 on:** January 20, 2019, 08:29:09 AM »

He seems to admit that he made some mistakes in his prep. He also seems like a regular Joe and not a veteran competitor. Plus, he's only 5'9.

lightweight83 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 20, 2019, 09:02:23 AM »

Quote from: stuntmovie on January 20, 2019, 08:22:18 AM

Interestng video and well presented, but I'm not entirely convinced that roids are required to look good enough to win a natural contest and look decent enough to do so.

In NICK's case ... it could possibly be a 'heredity problem/situation" as we hve all seen 143 pound kids in a ripped up condition without prepping for a contest..

I'm hopeing that Tres Taco will be seeing this and offer some comment.

It depends on what level of natty contest you're entering obviously. A few years ago there was a dude who used to train at my gym who was in his early 40's. Dude was jacked as fuck, and was a VERY obvious juicer to anyone. He actually bought most of his gear from a buddy of mine, and all of us knew it!
The funny thing is that the fucker had a group of people (around 10, mostly men, a few women) who he trained, and who literally worshiped him!!!! They thought he was the second coming of Arnold and would constantly talk about all he does is eat clean and train hard. LOL!
Well, fast forward a few months and he enters a natural bodybuilding contest. All the guys at the gym who knew him were like "WTF! how would the promoter even allow him to enter"

? Well, shockingly, he ends up winning the overall, as he dwarfed the majority of the competitors! He passed the piss test and supposedly they even had a lie detector test which he also passed (dudes a good liar I guess).

stuntmovie · « **Reply #7 on:** January 20, 2019, 10:21:48 AM »

LtWEIGHT .... Anything's possible!

And the individual in question could have been 100% roid free and simply buying those 'supps' for his clients' use ... although it seems to be highly doubtful.

But if a drug test was administered and if a lie detector test was given by reliable agencies ... and if the subject passed .... it would be difficult to convince me otherwise.

Especially in a court of law!

But .... Years ago you could buy chemical blockers which most likely are still available today, but it is my unprofessional understanding that those 'blockers' don't apply when hair folical testing is administered.

Based on your input, I'd offer an unprofessional guess that there is only a 10% chance that he used 'supps' to win that contest.

OneMoreRep · « **Reply #8 on:** January 20, 2019, 10:38:16 AM »

How refreshing is it to listen to this young man?

What he says is absolutely true with respect to many bodybuilders. Guys walk around bloated with vascular arms, a defined chest and wide back and think they're a few weeks to months away from contest. Then, when they try to attain those lean levels, they find themselves in pure hell when coming to the realization that your real, lean muscle mass lies way deeper than you can imagine.

Granted, all of this changes if you use steroids and are enhanced, but if trying to do this natural, shit will suck.

"1"

mazrim · « **Reply #9 on:** January 20, 2019, 10:52:34 AM »

Quote from: stuntmovie on January 20, 2019, 08:22:18 AM

I'm hopeing that Tres Taco will be seeing this and offer some comment.

Why?

Henda · « **Reply #10 on:** January 20, 2019, 10:56:42 AM »

Using Just 1mm of test a week fat exceeds any gains you can get from any otc supplements, also negates the need to be 100% strict with diet and only costs around £10 a month a fraction of what most spend on protein powders alone.

MAXX · « **Reply #11 on:** January 20, 2019, 01:11:08 PM »

well yeah…

I Think some are better at retaining muscle being natural at low bodyfat. Has to do with natural hormone levels, some don't drop test levels being lower bodyfat while others do.

there is some 200+ Contest conditioning naturals

lightweight83 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 20, 2019, 01:49:23 PM »

Dude, there is no chance in HELL he was even close to natty, or had been in the majority of his adult life. Also, his clients were pretty much all either beginners, or the people who lift for years and still look like beginners. If any of them were on gear, they should get their money back lol!

I don't know if you are new to working out, or just a younger dude, but passing a piss test means nothing! This guy most likely just knew how long before the contest he would have to stop taking gear, to pass the test. And this isn't rule out the possibility that he had a container of someone elses piss and he just dumped that into the jar they gave him.

I'm telling you, I don't care if he passed 100 drug tests a year, this guy was as geared as anyone I've ever seen in person, and STILL competed in a natty contest, and obviously destroyed everyone.
You do realize that the natural legend Simeon Panda has competed in many natural tested competition, and NEVER failed a test. Please god don't tell me you think he's natty. lol

Quote from: stuntmovie on January 20, 2019, 10:21:48 AM

LtWEIGHT .... Anything's possible!

And the individual in question could have been 100 roid free and simply buying those 'supps' for his clients' use ... although it seems to be highly doubtful.

But if a drug test was administered and if a lie detector test was given by reliable agencies ... and if the subject passed .... it would be difficult to convince me otherwise.

Especially in a court of law!

But .... Years ago you could buy chemical blockers which most likely are still available today, but it is my unprofessional understanding that those 'blockers' don't apply when hair folical testing is administered.

Based on your input, I'd offer an unprofessional guess that there is only a 10% chance that he used 'supps' to win that contest.

oldtimer1 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 20, 2019, 08:08:55 PM »

Training natural is a completely different ball game. Only with steroids can you get ripped while maintaining muscle or increasing muscle. Trying to get ripped naturally you will lose muscle. The only proof positive way to know your fat level and lean mass is to be weighed under water. Fat calipers are not accurate. Those electronic scales can give you a different fat percentage every day you step on it and are notorious for being off for a muscular guy.

Take a 5'9" guy that weighs a muscular 185lbs. His true fat percentage might be 15%. That's almost 28 pounds of fat. Both visceral and subcutaneous. If he gets down to 7% body fat for a show. He has to lose 14.8 pounds of fat. That would bring him down to 170lbs and that's not taking into account the muscle loss. He might also lose 7 pounds of muscle. Now he weighs 163lbs.

Now that same guy starts his contest prep at a muscular 185lbs. He takes steroids, GH, anti estrogens, LH hormone and maybe a little insulin. He goes up to 205lbs and cuts to 4% body fat.

If my math is off I'm three sheets to the wind drunk typing this. I will use a calculator next time.

VladimirVersic · « **Reply #14 on:** January 21, 2019, 05:55:19 AM »

How fitting that those with not very good genetics for either size or strength comment.
What is possible or not naturally in this case Nick.

funk51 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 21, 2019, 06:05:13 AM »

Quote from: Pray_4_War on January 20, 2019, 08:29:09 AM

He seems to admit that he made some mistakes in his prep. He also seems like a regular Joe and not a veteran competitor. Plus, he's only 5'9.

only 5 ' 9" that's a giant by bodybuilding standards. pic of bodybuilders standing next to a man of average height.

Pray_4_War · « **Reply #16 on:** January 21, 2019, 06:39:50 AM »

Quote from: VladimirVersic on January 21, 2019, 05:55:19 AM

How fitting that those with not very good genetics for either size or strength comment.
What is possible or not naturally in this case Nick.

How are you measuring their genetics? By their username?

stuntmovie · « **Reply #17 on:** January 21, 2019, 12:54:45 PM »

MAZRIM/LtWT.... "Why TACO?" .......

Because TACO is one of the very few members of this board who actually trains as a bdybuilder, preps for a bodybuilding contest, and competes within the same, and is most likely to agree with or not agree with NICK with an accurate degree of knowledge.

Those who have NEVER DONE, should never critique those who HAVE!.

But once again ... Anything's possible ... so it's possible that you may be correct about that un-natural "NATURAL CONTEST' winner, but it would be interesting to hear TACO's opinion of this discussion ... Mainly because he's totally involved and 'done it' ... so his experience and knowledge would be valid.

mazrim · « **Reply #18 on:** January 21, 2019, 03:39:00 PM »

Quote from: stuntmovie on January 21, 2019, 12:54:45 PM

MAZRIM/LtWT.... "Why TACO?" .......

Because TACO is one of the very few members of this board who actually trains as a bdybuilder, preps for a bodybuilding contest, and competes within the same, and is most likely to agree with or not agree with NICK with an accurate degree of knowledge.

Those who have NEVER DONE, should never critique those who HAVE!.

But once again ... Anything's possible ... so it's possible that you may be correct about that un-natural "NATURAL CONTEST' winner, but it would be interesting to hear TACO's opinion of this discussion ... Mainly because he's totally involved and 'done it' ... so his experience and knowledge would be valid.

I don't think Taco is natural so not sure what you are getting at.

IroNat · « **Reply #19 on:** January 22, 2019, 04:50:12 AM »

The true natural genetic freaks are rare like Steve Reeves who at 6'1" weighed a defined 210 in 1947. That's incredible.

Steroids allow men who are not genetic freaks to compete. Normal folk can't retain the mass like a Reeves who was one in a million.

The expectations for bodyfat levels for natties are unrealistic. Natties are expected to reach the same super-low bodyfat levels as drug users.

Marty Champions · « **Reply #20 on:** January 22, 2019, 05:17:27 AM »

Lol theres a millions of blacks built like steve reeves with just somepushups weed n beer

IroNat · « **Reply #21 on:** January 22, 2019, 06:10:55 AM »

Quote from: Marty Champions on January 22, 2019, 05:17:27 AM

Lol theres a millions of blacks built like steve reeves with just somepushups weed n beer

I said he was "one in a million".

oldgolds · « **Reply #22 on:** January 22, 2019, 06:42:39 AM »

Quote from: IroNat on January 22, 2019, 04:50:12 AM

The true natural genetic freaks are rare like Steve Reeves who at 6'1" weighed a defined 210 in 1947. That's incredible.

Steroids allow men who are not genetic freaks to compete. Normal folk can't retain the mass like a Reeves who was one in a million.

The expectations for bodyfat levels for natties are unrealistic. Natties are expected to reach the same super-low bodyfat levels as drug users.

Dude, you are delusional...Reeves was a steroid user. Grimik was a steroid user. Marvin Eder was a steroid user. Steroid users are bigtime liars. Even guys on HRT lie their asses off about it.

a_pupil · « **Reply #23 on:** January 22, 2019, 06:48:47 AM »

off the roids you have to find your personal cut-off point between looking like you lift and low bodyfat

some people have better muscle retention genetics so they can maintain mass and be ripped. whereas others might have to stick to 15%+ bf to look like they lift.

oldtimer1 · « **Reply #24 on:** January 22, 2019, 07:10:43 AM »

Quote from: IroNat on January 22, 2019, 04:50:12 AM

The true natural genetic freaks are rare like Steve Reeves who at 6'1" weighed a defined 210 in 1947. That's incredible.

Steroids allow men who are not genetic freaks to compete. Normal folk can't retain the mass like a Reeves who was one in a million.

The expectations for bodyfat levels for natties are unrealistic. Natties are expected to reach the same super-low bodyfat levels as drug users.

Look at pictures when Reeves was 15. He was built. During World War II they nicked named him the Shape. He was at a jungle base with a 110 pound barbell set he bought doing high reps. He was built most of his life until his health started to fail him. Just because testosterone was made for use in the 40's doesn't mean he used it. He wrote and said how much he was against steroid use. Grimek is another natural. In the 1936 he was built and competing in the Olympics as a heavy weight when he was true light heavy.