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« on: January 25, 2019, 11:22:15 AM »

...not protein or creatine?

Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2019, 11:58:00 AM »

Coffee.

Don't fall for the protein and supplement myth.  It's all BS.  Save your money.

The only supplement that works is Vitamin S.
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2019, 05:44:13 PM »

are you asking about a pre workout that doesnt have protein or creatine? nearly none do
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2019, 06:22:26 AM »

...not protein or creatine?

Thanks.


What is the desired effect you're looking for in the drink?
Energy?
Endurance?
Focus?
Pump?
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2019, 09:45:15 AM »

PUMP.

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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2019, 04:51:24 PM »

PUMP.

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For pure pump, my choice would be citrulline malate in a 2:1 ratio.
In vivo, citrulline has shown to convert to higher levels of plasma arginine than from consuming the same dose of actual arginine. Plus, there’s far less stomach distress for most users.

There are conflicting studies on PubMed concerning CM's effects on improving anaerobic performance and reducing muscle soreness, but some studies only examined the effects of acute doses.

CM's vasodilation effects, however, seem uncontested. If a pump is what you're after, you will probably see favorable results from citrulline malate.
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2019, 10:20:39 AM »

Citrulline Malate works great. Most pre workouts that have citrulline in it are underdosed. Have you ever tried noxygen?

https://www.samedaysupplements.com/noxygen-by-purus-labs.html
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2019, 06:17:31 AM »

Citrulline Malate works great. Most pre workouts that have citrulline in it are underdosed. Have you ever tried noxygen?


I have not. In fact, there aren't many brand-name products I buy anymore because of the common "blends" of useless and/or (as you mentioned) under-dosed ingredients. These days, I think the supplement consumer is often better off going to a bulk raw supplement source to buy SPECIFICALLY what they need and mix the exact amounts desired into their shakes.

Done this way, you're getting enough of what you want, and not paying for and ingesting any unnecessary or undesired fillers you don't want. This method is also often more cost-effective for procuring the active ingredients.
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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2019, 06:07:14 PM »

Pre-Jym works very well, kind of expensive, but you get what you pay for.
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2019, 11:32:49 AM »

Although I do use a  pre-workout once in a while (Evogen) IMO, the best pre-workout (or intra) is just waxy maize such as Vitargo. Overuse of pre-workouts combined with the other stimulants that might be consumed (coffee, energy drinks, etc) would cause excess cortisol release.
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2019, 03:29:38 PM »

Try having a positive mental attitude
And using your mind to psyche up
Best Pre-Workout Ever By Far.
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2019, 06:25:55 PM »

Large coffee with one cream courtesy of Tim Hortons. 
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2019, 12:17:19 PM »

Large coffee with one cream courtesy of Tim Hortons. 
This without the cream.  Black coffee the best pre workout supp. Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2019, 08:46:49 AM »

Mesomorph stacked with Hydromax. Best pumps and energy I had in a pre workout in a long time.
https://www.samedaysupplements.com/hydromax-glycerol-by-aps-nutrition-180-tabs.html
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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2019, 10:27:22 PM »

...not protein or creatine?

Thanks.

Everyone here knows full well that Plazmosis is the undisputed king of pre workouts. 
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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2019, 10:32:23 AM »

specifically for pumps i have been taking psp by metabolic nutrition simply because it works for me. i haven't had better pumps with other supplements
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