This is our current 2018 Mr. Olympia - Shawn Rhoden?

[ratherbebig]

i think a valid point is made, youre not just mr olympia on stage, but you need to represent at all times, looking large and in charge.
why is he even wearing long sleeves? he should be wearing a tank top

[Coach is Back!]

Neither are you midget.    I am also not a failed gym owner, yet you are. "training people online"  LoL.

and because its your standard reply - yes im bigger and better than you ever were my image is on here, you go find it, dont beg for it. And sure I am happy to compare portfolios with you anytime. go ahead and post yours LoL. (wont)

Just went back on your posts. 1. You clearly have a man crush on me. 2. Your posts are ONE HUNDRED percent negative be it me or someone else 3. There isn’t a pic to find of you. And the big one....#4 You said you lived in my area. Bullshit. If you followed my posts you exactly where I train and what times. You’re nowhere to be found and if you had any balls whatsoever you’d come right up to me. Haven’t come across that yet.

You’re a lying sack of shit who only talks shit behind a keyboard. But if you’re interested, I’m at the UFC gym on Beach/Warner every morning from 9:30-11:30 then at the YMCA on Magnolia/Adams right now until 1:15. Clown

[myt1]

Like failing kidneys and liver? A heart attack?

Never heard that.  He was on RX Muscle.  Something about bleeding ulcers, and couldn't eat any solids for the Arnold prep last year.  Broken jaw or something too maybe?  He was blending his chicken and shit and drinking it through a straw. 

[Kwon]

Just went back on your posts. 1. You clearly have a man crush on me. 2. Your posts are ONE HUNDRED percent negative be it me or someone else 3. There isn’t a pic to find of you. And the big one....#4 You said you lived in my area. Bullshit. If you followed my posts you exactly where I train and what times. You’re nowhere to be found and if you had any balls whatsoever you’d come right up to me. Haven’t come across that yet.

You’re a lying sack of shit who only talks shit behind a keyboard. But if you’re interested, I’m at the UFC gym on Beach/Warner every morning from 9:30-11:30 then at the YMCA on Magnolia/Adams right now until 1:15. Clown

Coach!

Wouldn't want to mess with Sgt Barnes if i were you.

He is military trained and by that i mean he was a Master Sergeant in Special Forces.

[Pray_4_War]

Dude looks small as fuck in this picture.  lol.

However, he won the Mr Olympia and I couldn't win the Junior Mr Kazakhstan so what the fuck do I know.

[Van_Bilderass]

Said he took time off training, and obviously drugging, after the O and is just now gettong back to it. Good move and what Ronnie and Phil also did.

[Pray_4_War]

Said he took time off training, and obviously drugging, after the O and is just now gettong back to it. Good move and what Ronnie and Phil also did.

I find these pros a lot less impressive now..  It's very clear that their physiques are all drugs.  As soon as they go off, their gains disappear and they turn into pencil necked geeks.

[Van_Bilderass]

I find these pros a lot less impressive now..  It's very clear that their physiques are all drugs.  As soon as they go off, their gains disappear and they turn into pencil necked geeks.

You may look at it from another angle also: taking a lot of drugs is work. I'm not kidding in the least. It's not fun, you don't feel good. An Olympian stack can make you feel like death, physically and mentally. You may turn to narcotics to handle it. So even if it was "all drugs", which it isn't because genetics is the most important part and which decides everything, doing these cycles takes a lot of effort. Many competitors can't stand to look at another syringe after a show and need a break.

[Kwon]

I find these pros a lot less impressive now..  It's very clear that their physiques are all drugs.  As soon as they go off, their gains disappear and they turn into pencil necked geeks.

Health is most important though.

[Pray_4_War]

You may look at it from another angle also: taking a lot of drugs is work. I'm not kidding in the least. It's not fun, you don't feel good. An Olympian stack can make you feel like death, physically and mentally. You may turn to narcotics to handle it. So even if it was "all drugs", which it isn't because genetics is the most important part and which decides everything, doing these cycles takes a lot of effort. Many competitors can't stand to look at another syringe after a show and need a break.

I'm not trying to be argumentative or shit on you personally so please don't take offense, but........

[oldtimer1]

The guys that have longevity go off drugs after a contest and give their body a break. Arnold, Zane, Franco and many others looked a shadow of them self after a contest. 

[The Scott]

The guys that have longevity go off drugs after a contest and give their body a break. Arnold, Zane, Franco and many others looked a shadow of them self after a contest. 

You my friend, are correct!    I've seen those guys off drugs.  They looked like us and sometimes even less so.  But if you're going to take that shit, get off it when it's not, for lack of a better word, "warranted".

Robbie Robinson tried being "contest ready" all year 'round back in the late '70s and it took a toll on him. These mental midgets are not only all drugs but they're all drugs all year.  They have no real life so they shorten it for a doorstop.  FTN.

[Pet shop boys]

I think anyone who placed top 6 last year can beat Rhoden this year if  comes equally as shredded as him,

(Assuming he'll be ripped again) he's in his mid 40's so I don't think we're looking at a Dominant champ here .


WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Brandon Curry

[tres_taco_combo]

The guys that have longevity go off drugs after a contest and give their body a break. Arnold, Zane, Franco and many others looked a shadow of them self after a contest. 

Ding ding

many burn themselves out so fast

[tres_taco_combo]

That’s pretty much all pro and competing bbers

exactly...

but my personal take is this:

1.  do your best to get to your natural best ability  - then you can use less and bounce back faster/prep quicker

2. take tons  of time off between "prep and "shows"

your career, wallet, mindset, health, social life will be glad you did.

[Coach is Back!]

Someone define "All drugs" for me. I wanna know. I've been in and around this industry for the better part of 40 years and have ALWAYS kept up to today's standards, drugs, training, diet etc. I've prepped a lot of competitors for shows and now that's probably more than 60% of my online business, my training partners are current IFBB pro's (an I know EXACTLY what they take off-season and come contest prep) the guy I chose to do my prep is a former IFBB pro.

I knew what bodybuilders took back then and I know what the majority are taking now. Of course, you're going to have some that think more is better which is total COMPLETE and utter bullshit and those will be the ones that will more than likely get into trouble.

When people say "all drugs" that means you're dismissing all of the other aspects. Chances are very few if any of you heard Aceto's interview regarding Rhoden. If you heard the ENTIRE interview then lets talk about it. BTW, whoever injected Bostin Loyds name into this, don't. He's a sideshow act.

Define "ALL DRUGS" this irritates the fuck out of me

[Dr.V.P.C.]

looks healthy and smart

all that matters is how you look on stage -

Def no
The minimum that we expect for Mr O is being fking big all year round.
If he dies, he dies.

[myt1]

You my friend, are correct!    I've seen those guys off drugs.  They looked like us and sometimes even less so.  But if you're going to take that shit, get off it when it's not, for lack of a better word, "warranted".

Robbie Robinson tried being "contest ready" all year 'round back in the late '70s and it took a toll on him. These mental midgets are not only all drugs but they're all drugs all year.  They have no real life so they shorten it for a doorstop.  FTN.

I agree with what you're saying, but I'd like to know where you got the part about Robinson?  Did he say that somewhere?

He was just on RX Muscle 2-3 weeks ago for almost an hour long vid.  They put up recent pics from his social media, and his physique is still amazing for any age let alone someone in their 70's.

He stated he pretty much took the same thing his whole career, and said what it was so I'm just not aware of this toll you speak of?

[Coach is Back!]

This thread is a waste of time at this point.

[ratherbebig]

You may look at it from another angle also: taking a lot of drugs is work. I'm not kidding in the least. It's not fun, you don't feel good. An Olympian stack can make you feel like death, physically and mentally. You may turn to narcotics to handle it. So even if it was "all drugs", which it isn't because genetics is the most important part and which decides everything, doing these cycles takes a lot of effort. Many competitors can't stand to look at another syringe after a show and need a break.

how come you were on an olympian stack? were did you place?

[Coach is Back!]

Be honest how many on here actually listened to the Chris aceto-interview

[myt1]

Be honest how many on here actually listened to the Chris aceto-interview

I haven't, but one of my best friends was my former boss at the gym I mentioned in my other reply to you.  He's 15 years my senior, so he was able to go to one of those muscle camps they used to do in the early 90s, and worked out with some of the pros.  Aceto and Gaspari were the two he worked out with most, and who told him the most.  Aceto is old school.  I feel pretty safe saying whatever he said spoke about taking time off for receptor affinity and health, and that dosages were very reasonable.  Likely 2grms max with the addition of GH, Clen, T3/T4, and maybe some of the other fancy stuff now days.  I would be shocked if he advocates for using high doses of slin, if any at all.

One quick funny:  I asked my friend what Gaspari used.  He told me when he asked him what the best stack was, Gaspari said "whatever you can get".  He said they never discussed overall total dosage, but my friend got as big as a bit over 290 at 5'10", and he never suggested I go any higher than what I was told which was 1500

[pellius]

Someone define "All drugs" for me. I wanna know. I've been in and around this industry for the better part of 40 years and have ALWAYS kept up to today's standards, drugs, training, diet etc. I've prepped a lot of competitors for shows and now that's probably more than 60% of my online business, my training partners are current IFBB pro's (an I know EXACTLY what they take off-season and come contest prep) the guy I chose to do my prep is a former IFBB pro.

I knew what bodybuilders took back then and I know what the majority are taking now. Of course, you're going to have some that think more is better which is total COMPLETE and utter bullshit and those will be the ones that will more than likely get into trouble.

When people say "all drugs" that means you're dismissing all of the other aspects. Chances are very few if any of you heard Aceto's interview regarding Rhoden. If you heard the ENTIRE interview then lets talk about it. BTW, whoever injected Bostin Loyds name into this, don't. He's a sideshow act.

Define "ALL DRUGS" this irritates the fuck out of me

They say that because of how much a person shrinks when he stops bbing. But it's a cop out. They also stop training and stop eating like a bber.

You can just as easily say it's all food or it's all weight lifting because without either then no muscle.

Hormones will take you further provided the training and diet is there.

[SOMEPARTS]

Someone define "All drugs" for me. I wanna know. I've been in and around this industry for the better part of 40 years and have ALWAYS kept up to today's standards, drugs, training, diet etc. I've prepped a lot of competitors for shows and now that's probably more than 60% of my online business, my training partners are current IFBB pro's (an I know EXACTLY what they take off-season and come contest prep) the guy I chose to do my prep is a former IFBB pro.

I knew what bodybuilders took back then and I know what the majority are taking now. Of course, you're going to have some that think more is better which is total COMPLETE and utter bullshit and those will be the ones that will more than likely get into trouble.

When people say "all drugs" that means you're dismissing all of the other aspects. Chances are very few if any of you heard Aceto's interview regarding Rhoden. If you heard the ENTIRE interview then lets talk about it. BTW, whoever injected Bostin Loyds name into this, don't. He's a sideshow act.

Define "ALL DRUGS" this irritates the fuck out of me

One of the components of an "all drugs" guy is if he never comes off. This wasn't common until the all drugs era started. Rhoden knows his body. Stays lean and grows into a contest like the old timers apparently. No gut...

[Zillotch]

Define "ALL DRUGS"

all drugs: any physique otherwise unattainable without the use of drugs.