Crazy anabolic steroid transformation (UK BB) - full cycle shown

[Jasonjones]

he was pretty muscular for "1 year of natty training"

the video is actually a little bit misleading because he has actually been training for over 20 years natural, but that bulk in the video was just a 12 month natural bulking phase, but he has trained non stop for decades beforehand

[joswift]

the video is actually a little bit misleading because he has actually been training for over 20 years natural, but that bulk in the video was just a 12 month natural bulking phase, but he has trained non stop for decades beforehand

the first pics he just looks like a fat bloke

[Jasonjones]

the first pics he just looks like a fat bloke

yeah i agree 😂 too much food imo, (permabulk)

[Jasonjones]

Hi Michael...

  i wish 😂

[joswift]

yeah i agree 😂 too much food imo, (permabulk)

and the amount of gear he was using would have likely made a first time user ill, are you suggessting that was his first course ever?

[Jasonjones]

and the amount of gear he was using would have likely made a first time user ill, are you suggessting that was his first course ever?

No ive asked him about his cycles, allegedly it was his second cycle

[joswift]

No ive asked him about his cycles, allegedly it was his second cycle

still, all those compounds is a bit excessive and most people cant handle it, guy must just be very sensitive to hormones, I know pros who have competed on a few ml a week

[Jasonjones]

still, all those compounds is a bit excessive and most people cant handle it, guy must just be very sensitive to hormones, I know pros who have competed on a few ml a week

a few ml a week??? I seriously doubt it 😂 maybe in the 1970s yeah but not nowadays, most pros are on several grams, upwards of 5000mg + and most amateurs nowadays are on more than the pros

[joswift]

a few ml a week??? I seriously doubt it 😂 maybe in the 1970s yeah but not nowadays, most pros are on several grams, upwards of 5000mg + and most amateurs nowadays are on more than the pros

I was recently told by a pro who competed as late as 2011 that his best ever look was achieved with 400mgs  test prop and 200mgs tren a week and 4ius of gh a day, most guys these days are taking bunk gear and are taking way too much.

[Jasonjones]

I was recently told by a pro who competed as late as 2011 that his best ever look was achieved with 400mgs  test prop and 200mgs tren a week and 4ius of gh a day, most guys these days are taking bunk gear and are taking way too much.

yeah but was this pro telling the truth? 🤔 most people seriously lie and downplay their cycles, but yes i totally agree about bunk gear, they say 95% of all gear worldwide is either fake or underdosed

[joswift]

yeah but was this pro telling the truth? 🤔 most people seriously lie and downplay their cycles, but yes i totally agree about bunk gear, they say 95% of all gear worldwide is either fake or underdosed

he has no reason to lie, I also know he advises others to use very similar protocols with just as good results.

When you are in a precontest phase large amounts of drugs are unlikley to make taht much difference, you are depleted and in a defecit for most of the time, as long as you try and reduce muscle loss whilst dieting that should be more than enough

[joswift]

excess drug use doesnt compensate for shitty genetics
most people take way too much that they poison their systems and as such the machine doesnt work properly
I once to advise fropm someone to triple my dosage precontest, I did , and in 4 weeks a gained 2lbs, now is that really worth the potential damage that could have done?

[m8]

Wasn't "natty" before

[mazrim]

I was recently told by a pro who competed as late as 2011 that his best ever look was achieved with 400mgs  test prop and 200mgs tren a week and 4ius of gh a day, most guys these days are taking bunk gear and are taking way too much.

Must've been a "natural" pro...

Also, best ever look can be different then how much you might take to get there. You can drop a ton of water by lowering doses and look awesome.

[tres_taco_combo]

yeah i agree 😂 too much food imo, (permabulk)

being fat - and taking PEDs do not mix ! way less effective when a user is fat 


many times with a permabulk.... most never return or cut up - its a hard time to cut down (blood sugars are always high, fat cells increased in size)

i recommend all lifters do a hard core cut for at least 8 weeks per year (no booze, tons of cardio, low carb or low cal) and seriously cut up. take before and after photos

father time and perma bulk do not go well.  ive been perma bulk for a good 1-2 years and it was a bitch to come off/size down. glad i did perma bulk for 1-2 years - made me understand my health

[joswift]

being fat - and taking PEDs do not mix ! way less effective when a user is fat 


many times with a permabulk.... most never return or cut up - its a hard time to cut down (blood sugars are always high, fat cells increased in size)

i recommend all lifters do a hard core cut for at least 8 weeks per year (no booze, tons of cardio, low carb or low cal) and seriously cut up. take before and after photos

father time and perma bulk do not go well.  ive been perma bulk for a good 1-2 years and it was a bitch to come off/size down. glad i did perma bulk for 1-2 years - made me understand my health

anyone over 12% shouldnt be loading up on gear, they are designed for people who are ill, not for overly fed monsters

[Primemuscle]

He will revert back to the before picture with 6 months off of drugs maybe sooner.  If he lost that blubber naturally he would be fit year round. I'd rather have a muscular body that couldn't win a Mr. podunk contest in Idaho than to do the yo yo drug thing.

 Look at the great Shawn Ray.  Can't blame him for juicing because it was his profession. Now he's clean I assume and no matter what he does in the gym he can't look half decent.

What the hell is Mike O'Hearn doing?  Made a pack with the devil? Maybe he only shows himself while on.  He lives seriously heavy weights and year after year.  

Did you notice that O'Hearn has gotten so huge that it ripped his pants....call him the hulk. 

[tres_taco_combo]

anyone over 12% shouldnt be loading up on gear, they are designed for people who are ill, not for overly fed monsters

that is why TRT is going to get messy in the next 10-20 years

fat rich baby boomers will be on test from day 1 from their doc since they will go by test levels on a blood test and they are on anti E's which are super dangerous and not needed unless your doses are HIGH too

so we will have deaths and health issues from boomers on TRT who should not be on TRT but it is easy to place blame on hormones -

users can use - i am not the PED police but its not effective if you are fat and the side effects are way worse

stop telling yourself lies - you are fatter than you think (me included at one time)

[Kwon]

He will revert back to the before picture with 6 months off of drugs maybe sooner.  If he lost that blubber naturally he would be fit year round. I'd rather have a muscular body that couldn't win a Mr. podunk contest in Idaho than to do the yo yo drug thing.

 Look at the great Shawn Ray.  Can't blame him for juicing because it was his profession. Now he's clean I assume and no matter what he does in the gym he can't look half decent.

What the hell is Mike O'Hearn doing?  Made a pack with the devil? Maybe he only shows himself while on.  He lives seriously heavy weights and year after year.  

Mike O is unique.

He got some gamma-radiated serum.

[tres_taco_combo]

 Look at the great Shawn Ray.  Can't blame him for juicing because it was his profession. Now he's clean I assume and no matter what he does in the gym he can't look half decent.
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serious fasting and some hot yoga are your best weapons of attack if you older and over weight -

fat shame yourself to being in shape in front of the mirror and hot chics next to you - hot yoga is great for cutting - you wanna stop being a fat ass within 30 seconds of going. your gut hangs over your shorts

[tres_taco_combo]

Mike O is unique.

He got some gamma-radiated serum.

i would like to see him do men's classic IFBB - he do freakin amazing

[Rambone]

Get him a body bag! Yeeeeaaaahhhhh!!!!!

[dexitrim]

that is why TRT is going to get messy in the next 10-20 years

fat rich baby boomers will be on test from day 1 from their doc since they will go by test levels on a blood test and they are on anti E's which are super dangerous and not needed unless your doses are HIGH too

so we will have deaths and health issues from boomers on TRT who should not be on TRT but it is easy to place blame on hormones -

users can use - i am not the PED police but its not effective if you are fat and the side effects are way worse

stop telling yourself lies - you are fatter than you think (me included at one time)

So 100mg of Test Cyp every two weeks will result in the "deaths and health issues from boomers on TRT"?

Asking for a friend.  I do appreciate any medical advice you can provide.

[kreator]

being fat - and taking PEDs do not mix ! way less effective when a user is fat 


many times with a permabulk.... most never return or cut up - its a hard time to cut down (blood sugars are always high, fat cells increased in size)

i recommend all lifters do a hard core cut for at least 8 weeks per year (no booze, tons of cardio, low carb or low cal) and seriously cut up. take before and after photos

father time and perma bulk do not go well.  ive been perma bulk for a good 1-2 years and it was a bitch to come off/size down. glad i did perma bulk for 1-2 years - made me understand my health

The more fat one carries the more insulin resistant they are which means they are more likely to pack on fat instead of muscle. Like u said, the best way before jumping on gear is to get as lean as possible thus your muscle cells can accept more nutrients and u pack on more lean muscle.

[tres_taco_combo]

The more fat one carries the more insulin resistant they are which means they are more likely to pack on fat instead of muscle. Like u said, the best way before jumping on gear is to get as lean as possible thus your muscle cells can accept more nutrients and u pack on more lean muscle.

yep

I am not the PED police- but most are too fat to be on PEDs it is a waste and a way to get more side effects with less results