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Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« on: March 14, 2019, 08:51:33 PM »
https://www.dailywire.com/news/44587/obama-doj-told-fbi-not-charge-hillary-lisa-page-ryan-saavedra

FYI, criminal referrals coming down to just about everyone involved in about 3-4 weeks

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2019, 09:02:05 PM »
https://www.dailywire.com/news/44587/obama-doj-told-fbi-not-charge-hillary-lisa-page-ryan-saavedra

FYI, criminal referrals coming down to just about everyone involved in about 3-4 weeks

I read the article you posted.

"Page continued: "And the Justice Department's assessment was that it was both constitutionally vague, so that they did not actually feel that they could permissibly bring that charge, and also that it had either never been done or had only been done once like 99 years ago. And so they did not feel that they could sustain a charge."

In my career I had prosecutors many times tell me, "This case is unwinnable" You can file it but it's our experience it won't get past the grand jury. And if it does, it won't be winnable in court because of A, B & C"And we won.

That page interpreted that as "You WILL not file the charges" is really on her. We often filed charges even when the prosecutor said it was a waste of time if we felt they were more politically motivated than justice motivated.  a good follow up question might have been, and I'm not high powered attorney/Congressman "What would have been the downside if you had went ahead with the charges if you believed them to be warranted?"  

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2019, 09:26:51 PM »
I read the article you posted.

"Page continued: "And the Justice Department's assessment was that it was both constitutionally vague, so that they did not actually feel that they could permissibly bring that charge, and also that it had either never been done or had only been done once like 99 years ago. And so they did not feel that they could sustain a charge."

In my career I had prosecutors many times tell me, "This case is unwinnable" You can file it but it's our experience it won't get past the grand jury. And if it does, it won't be winnable in court because of A, B & C"And we won.

That page interpreted that as "You WILL not file the charges" is really on her. We often filed charges even when the prosecutor said it was a waste of time if we felt they were more politically motivated than justice motivated.  a good follow up question might have been, and I'm not high powered attorney/Congressman "What would have been the downside if you had went ahead with the charges if you believed them to be warranted?"  

She had to much circumstantial evidence to not indict and at the very least lied to Congress as proven by Comey. She was completely exonerated before any investigations were started.

I take that back. They have hard evidence

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2019, 09:39:19 PM »
She had to much circumstantial evidence to not indict and at the very least lied to Congress as proven by Comey. She was completely exonerated before any investigations were started.

I take that back. They have hard evidence

There is no question she broke the law.  Not a close call.  Nothing questionable.  Plain as day.  But that ship has sailed.  She's never going to be held accountable IMO.

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2019, 10:10:30 PM »
There is no question she broke the law.  Not a close call.  Nothing questionable.  Plain as day.  But that ship has sailed.  She's never going to be held accountable IMO.

I’m up in the air with this. Nunez, even though quiet, hasn’t let up on his investigations and said criminal referrals will be coming down in 3-4 weeks. Really only the left aren’t talking about this but for two years the allegations haven’t let up.

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2019, 10:26:06 AM »
I’m up in the air with this. Nunez, even though quiet, hasn’t let up on his investigations and said criminal referrals will be coming down in 3-4 weeks. Really only the left aren’t talking about this but for two years the allegations haven’t let up.

I don't think Congressional criminal referrals are worth the paper they are written on.  How many referrals have they made and how many people have been prosecuted and convicted?

I have a non-monetary bet with a coworker about this.  She says people are going to jail.  I say I'll believe it when I see it. 

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2019, 10:27:34 AM »
In my opinion, Hillary was sloppy and shouldn't have kept that server in her house.
Then it all comes down to politics and she had the President ( Obama) and AG ( Lynch) on her side.
Since it was a bit murky , technical and not obvious, she got the benefit of the doubt and was cleared.

FYI, the same thing may happen when the Mueller report finally gets released.
It could show Trump guilty of a few things but it may not be clear or obvious.
Even if the House Dems impeached him, without clear proof, the GOP led senate  won't convict him with 67 votes.

I wish things were fair and objective, but, politics never has been.

If you read the applicable law and look at the undisputed facts in the public record, there is one logical conclusion:  she broke the law. 

Or if you talk to someone who actually has or had a security clearance, they will tell you the same thing. 

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2019, 11:09:04 AM »
Oh , no question, by the letter of the law on national security matters, she's guilty.
BUT convicting high level political figures is POLITICAL*

In simple terms, whomever is in charge determines guilt.


There are clear cut laws on the books for this sort of thing that are not political.

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2019, 11:15:08 AM »
Oh , no question, by the letter of the law on national security matters, she's guilty.
BUT convicting high level political figures is POLITICAL*

In simple terms, whomever is in charge determines guilt.

Stop playing a semantic game.  She broke the law.  Plain and simple. 


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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2019, 11:33:05 AM »
If you read the applicable law and look at the undisputed facts in the public record, there is one logical conclusion:  she broke the law. 

Or if you talk to someone who actually has or had a security clearance, they will tell you the same thing. 

go ahead and state the law for us professor

in this case they had to be able to prove she intended to break the law and not just carelessness

Trumptards should keep this in mind as many people in the Trump Crime Family are going to try to make this claim

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2019, 12:34:29 PM »
I don't think Congressional criminal referrals are worth the paper they are written on.  How many referrals have they made and how many people have been prosecuted and convicted?

I have a non-monetary bet with a coworker about this.  She says people are going to jail.  I say I'll believe it when I see it.  
Yep, I would be absolutely shocked if anything beyond slaps on the wrist occur. Would love for it to happen but 80% (at least) of these people are corrupt/live in a different world then the rest of us.

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2019, 01:49:03 PM »
Wonder if the Gay Muslim knew of the criminal acts his hand picked corrupted mutts committed ?
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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2019, 04:52:36 PM »
I said she was guilty of breaking the national security regulations.
BUT, we all know she was never convicted.
Her husband Bill, was guilty and impeached but thanks to the senate vote he was never convicted.

Trump violates the nepotism laws by having his daughter and son in law as presidential advisors.
BUT, nobody can ENFORCE the nepotism statutes with him as POTUS.

For that matter, OJ was guilty and he walked due to some slick legal manipulation of the jury.

Breaking the law is one thing while enforcing it is very different.

What specific “nepotism laws” are you referring to?

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2019, 04:53:23 PM »
Yep, I would be absolutely shocked if anything beyond slaps on the wrist occur. Would love for it to happen but 80% (at least) of these people are corrupt/live in a different world then the rest of us.

Unfortunate truth.  The laws are for us little people. 

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2019, 05:22:33 PM »
https://www.dailywire.com/news/44587/obama-doj-told-fbi-not-charge-hillary-lisa-page-ryan-saavedra

FYI, criminal referrals coming down to just about everyone involved in about 3-4 weeks

Good to know. Can we hold you to this? Obviously, you must have inside information.

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2019, 11:55:45 AM »
Good to know. Can we hold you to this? Obviously, you must have inside information.

Really? Nunez said so himself on National TV🤦‍♂️

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2019, 03:28:47 PM »

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2019, 03:23:18 AM »
go ahead and state the law for us professor

in this case they had to be able to prove she intended to break the law and not just carelessness

Trumptards should keep this in mind as many people in the Trump Crime Family are going to try to make this claim
Have you found that Russian Collusion yet?

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2019, 02:25:45 PM »
Really? Nunez said so himself on National TV🤦‍♂️

It's Devin Nunes, not Nunez.

The following is from your source:

"Page also indicated that the decision to not charge Clinton with felony gross negligence in her email scandal came at the direction of the Obama Justice Department.

We did not blow over gross negligence. We, in fact and, in fact, the Director because on its face, it did seem like, well, maybe there's a potential here for this to be the charge," Page said. "And we had multiple conversations, multiple conversations with the Justice Department about charging gross negligence.

Page continued: "And the Justice Department's assessment was that it was both, constitutionally vague so that they did not actually feel that they could permissibly bring that charge, and also that it had either never been done or had only been done once like 99 years ago. And so they did not feel that they could sustain a charge.""

https://www.dailywire.com/news/44587/obama-doj-told-fbi-not-charge-hillary-lisa-page-ryan-saavedra

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2019, 02:55:06 PM »
Have you found that Russian Collusion yet?

Not my job dipshit

Why don't you email Mueller

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2019, 02:52:50 AM »
Not my job dipshit

Why don't you email Mueller
It doesn't appear he has either.  Give me his email address and I will ask him though.

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2019, 03:00:35 AM »
It doesn't appear he has either.  Give me his email address and I will ask him though.

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2019, 09:18:49 AM »
Great post and sums up the essence of this Hillary server issue.

No question as Sec of State she was careless and negligent by having an internet server in her personal home.
By the specific letter of the law, she was guilty of violating national security guidelines.

BUT ( and this was the key finding), no harm came from this specific negligence related to the server.
Maybe she was lucky , but  wtf.

Ok before some chime in with , "but you voted for Hillary":
Yup, I did ...because I honestly felt Trump was that bad. ( still do).

It's like this :
It's late, you're bit drunk and the bar is about thre close.
You're going home alone or with one of 2 skanks still in the bar.
One is an older, chunky, female wearing a pant suit.
The other is an obvious tranny with visible adams apple.

Since a real vaj is better then a cock/balls, you offer Ms Pantsuit a ride home. ;)



The probability of Joe Bloggs doing what she did risking national security
And not getting charged is - ZERO
Don’t talk crap - she got away with it because of being a Clinton.

Your analogy of Killary being an obvious tranny ( just like OBumers misses )
Is Very Good.

😂😂😂😂😂

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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2019, 09:40:54 AM »

The probability of Joe Bloggs doing what she did risking national security
And not getting charged is - ZERO
Don’t talk crap - she got away with it because of being a Clinton.

Your analogy of Killary being an obvious tranny ( just like OBumers misses )
Is Very Good.

😂😂😂😂😂

Considering Howard's analogy, I believe the older woman wearing a pant suit represented HRC, not the transsexual. Regardless, he was exampling what he felt was the better of two choices (HRC or Trump).


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Re: Obama DOJ told not to charge Clinton
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2019, 12:14:22 PM »
You both focused on the Killary / Trans bit  ::)

Completely missing the part about joe Bloggs putting National
Security at Risk - Which was The Main Point.

Why would you both do That. ?

Really I couldn’t care any less about Killary - She Lost End Of.
She’s very clearly high on your minds to spring immediately to her
Defence - Jeez White Knighting Killary 😂😂😂😂😂
What’s Say about You.
Go take a minute lads 😂😂😂😂😂