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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #50 on: April 27, 2019, 08:14:34 AM »

p. 61 "Stone refused the offer, stating that Trump WOULD NOT pay for opposition research"
Roger Stone said so??? Stone who was accused of LYING and witness tampering said so? As you said about Cohen applies here too: 'a PROVEN liar'
Trump calls Donald Trump Jr.'s meeting with Russian lawyer 'opposition research'
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/07/13/donald-trump/475459001/



p. 72  This is where I feel there's some shenanigans, but it's not Trump doing it.  Mr. big shot fucktard new yorker cohen, and some other guy I didn't write down said something about "2 boys from brooklyn" being responsible for getting a president of the U.S. elected.  If I'm being honest, if Cohen would have had more stroke or as much as he thought he did there likely would have been some collusion.  He's a scummy little fuck that strives on power, and being a mover and shaker.  He kept trying to make things happen, and was continually put in his place. It's actually page 80 but you have to go to page 79 so you can see exactly WHO Cohen is speaking with. It's Felix Sater-" “Our boy can become president of the USA and we can engineer it,” wrote Sater. “I will get all of [Vladimir] Putins [sic] team to buy in on this, I will manage this process.… I will get Putin on this program and we will get Donald elected.” So Cohen built up this relationship with Sater all on his own accord?? Of course not. Sater was an EMPLOYEE of Trump's for 10 years
 even though Trump lied and said he didn't know who he was.


p. 73 more illustration of cohen being a dipshit.  Couldn't even send a fucking email to the right address when trying to email Klokov about Trump Tower project, and getting russian officials involved.  He did not even know klokov.....just reached out trying to be the shit.  Sent "follow-on emails" referencing a "near-term trip"....what douche uses that language?  He was not authorized, and Trump's schedule didn't allow for such a visit, nor was Trump interested as on p. 78 it states that Trump turned down the St. Petersburg business conference invite.  BTW, even in follow up interviews into 2018 Cohen still thought Klokov was a former olympic lifter he had found researching background of the russian official's name to correspond in emails......wrong person!!!Well not exactly. First off the CORRECT Klokov emailed Ivanka FIRST--she forwarded it to Cohen. The way you described it, it seems like he did that all on his own. He didn't. Here's what the letter said: "“If you ask anyone who knows Russian to google my husband Dmitry Klokov, you’ll see who he is close to and that he has done Putin’s political campaigns.” . You don't find it interesting she would forward such a letter to him? CLEARLY she wanted to know what she had to OFFER.


So you tell me where there's any collusion in that?You tell me how you don't see SOME.


Serious question.....have you read, or are you reading the report for yourself or are you just going along with what the media is telling you?
Every fucken letter of it. More than me just disliking Trump and his racist homophobic ways, I really like a good spy story.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #51 on: April 27, 2019, 08:33:42 AM »
Every fucken letter of it. More than me just disliking Trump and his racist homophobic ways, I really like a good spy story.

Trump is not racist or homophobic.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #52 on: April 27, 2019, 08:39:16 AM »
No?
Okay.
Many many people see it otherwise.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #53 on: April 27, 2019, 08:54:26 AM »
Everyone's racist these days according to MSM and Dem's.

Its the same as its always been, nothing different except it being shoved down everyones throat in MSM.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #54 on: April 27, 2019, 09:27:07 AM »
Pssst...Coach?? How ya doing babe?? You good over there in sunny California??
If Trump deserves credit for a roaring stock market, then Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan do as well. In fact, all of them presided over more total record highs in the S&P 500 Index (^GSPC) than Trump has so far.
An article that was posted in the political section here. But don't read it...it's from Yahoo. Everybody knows Yahoo full of a bunch of shill's working for the Dems..
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-total-stock-market-wins-lag-other-presidents-175830205.html

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #55 on: April 27, 2019, 09:28:55 AM »
But wait!
There's more for ya Coach...go get some:
Conway Overstates Economic Growth
The U.S. does not currently have economic “growth over 4 percent,” as White House counselor Kellyanne Conway claimed recently.
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/04/conway-overstates-economic-growth/

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #56 on: April 27, 2019, 09:42:44 AM »
But wait!
There's more for ya Coach...go get some:
Conway Overstates Economic Growth
The U.S. does not currently have economic “growth over 4 percent,” as White House counselor Kellyanne Conway claimed recently.
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/04/conway-overstates-economic-growth/

Don’t burden me with left bias “fact check” sites. The only ones that really use them anymore are.....leftist “news” outlets.

You do understand that for the most part Obama created a false economy, right?

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« Reply #57 on: April 27, 2019, 09:57:55 AM »

You do understand that for the most part Obama created a false economy, right?
Coach, just because you say it doesn't make it so. It's a THEORY that he created a false economy. That's all it is.
While I'm no fan of Obama (or any President ever for that matter} I happen to agree with what he said here:

"When you hear how great the economy's doing right now, let's just remember when this recovery started,” Obama said on Friday in a speech that marked his first foray into the upcoming elections. "I mean, I'm glad it's continued, but when you hear about this economic miracle that's been going on, when the job numbers come out, monthly job numbers, suddenly Republicans are saying it's a miracle. I have to kind of remind them, actually, those job numbers are the same as they were in 2015 and 2016."
See Coach--what that is ---that's called a VERIFIABLE F A C T . See the difference?

WAS THE ECONOMY STRUGGLING WHEN TRUMP TOOK OFFICE? 
"Absolutely not. Trump inherited a booming economy with low unemployment and steady job growth — an easy win on day one — and he quickly claimed credit. Early in his presidency, Trump boasted about job gains starting from his election onward, crediting Obama's final months as his own.
 
“If the Democrats got in with their agenda in November of almost two years ago, instead of having 4.2 up, I believe honestly you'd have 4.2 down,” Trump said Friday night, speaking of GDP growth. “It was the weakest recovery in the history of our country since, I guess, to be totally specific, because I'm not sure they've gone any further, since the Great Depression.”
 
WHAT THE FUCK IS HE EVEN TALKING ABOUT??
It is extremely unlikely that the GDP could ever have been negative 4.2 percent no matter who was elected in 2016. At the height of the 2009 recession, GDP was at -2.5 percent. It has not been at or above -4.2 percent in 86 years."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/fact-check-economy-booming-who-gets-credit-trump-or-obama-n908286

 Again--I'm NOT saying he's done nothing--what I am saying is he's done less than he's taking credit for.
Typical Trump move.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #58 on: April 27, 2019, 09:58:48 AM »
So since the economy WASN'T struggling when he took office--where is the false economy?
Site sources.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #59 on: April 27, 2019, 10:40:14 AM »
Coach, just because you say it doesn't make it so. It's a THEORY that he created a false economy. That's all it is.
While I'm no fan of Obama (or any President ever for that matter} I happen to agree with what he said here:

"When you hear how great the economy's doing right now, let's just remember when this recovery started,” Obama said on Friday in a speech that marked his first foray into the upcoming elections. "I mean, I'm glad it's continued, but when you hear about this economic miracle that's been going on, when the job numbers come out, monthly job numbers, suddenly Republicans are saying it's a miracle. I have to kind of remind them, actually, those job numbers are the same as they were in 2015 and 2016."
See Coach--what that is ---that's called a VERIFIABLE F A C T . See the difference?

WAS THE ECONOMY STRUGGLING WHEN TRUMP TOOK OFFICE? 
"Absolutely not. Trump inherited a booming economy with low unemployment and steady job growth — an easy win on day one — and he quickly claimed credit. Early in his presidency, Trump boasted about job gains starting from his election onward, crediting Obama's final months as his own.
 
“If the Democrats got in with their agenda in November of almost two years ago, instead of having 4.2 up, I believe honestly you'd have 4.2 down,” Trump said Friday night, speaking of GDP growth. “It was the weakest recovery in the history of our country since, I guess, to be totally specific, because I'm not sure they've gone any further, since the Great Depression.”
 
WHAT THE FUCK IS HE EVEN TALKING ABOUT??
It is extremely unlikely that the GDP could ever have been negative 4.2 percent no matter who was elected in 2016. At the height of the 2009 recession, GDP was at -2.5 percent. It has not been at or above -4.2 percent in 86 years."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/fact-check-economy-booming-who-gets-credit-trump-or-obama-n908286

 Again--I'm NOT saying he's done nothing--what I am saying is he's done less than he's taking credit for.
Typical Trump move.

It’s a “theory?” Lol

You just started learning and following the economy with the start of this thread didn’t you?

Now, use your common sense and btw, I love listening to and learning from economists and learning about economics because it does affect me as a business owner. So let’s pick up where we left off yesterday.

The one question Obama supporters and most economists that are pro-Obama cant answer is....how can you create a thriving economy when you put regulation after regulation tax after tax on small business and large corporations that affect bottom lines and drive those out of the country and killing jobs at the same time? How can you create a socialist, unconstitutional healthcare system that eliminates competition that literally drives up health care costs and in some cases (like mine) triple of what people were paying before not to mention a mandated “fine” which is really a tax or as I call it, blackmail that people have to pay if they cannot afford or don’t flat out want to have healthcare coverage?

^^^^

We’ll start there and that’s just a fraction of what very few can answer. Notice I didn’t copy and paste or take from some bullshit “fact check” site. I’ve said this before, take away your google and you’re lost.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #60 on: April 27, 2019, 12:19:52 PM »
So you don't use Google? All of these ingenious posts and 'facts' are from your head? The fuck out of here. Get off your fucking pedestal and talk to me like any other fucking concerned citizen who uses the internet to get facts. Fuck you. It was normal banter--back and forth--you posted ur opinion and I did mine. Who the fuck are you kidding Coach??  Fuck off and fuck you.
  I enjoyed interacting with you here as I do with EVERYBODY. The gay haters included. I deal with all of you assholes here that cast judgement on me--doesn't bother me one fucking bit. I bring some of it on myself. I just don't see the point in talking to such a condescending know it all piece of shit like you any longer. I've never said that about anybody on this site--not even to the worst of em here. It's the internet
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( Also--I wrote that all by myself with no Googling involved! yay!)

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #61 on: April 27, 2019, 01:06:57 PM »
So you don't use Google? All of these ingenious posts and 'facts' are from your head? The fuck out of here. Get off your fucking pedestal and talk to me like any other fucking concerned citizen who uses the internet to get facts. Fuck you. It was normal banter--back and forth--you posted ur opinion and I did mine. Who the fuck are you kidding Coach??  Fuck off and fuck you.
  I enjoyed interacting with you here as I do with EVERYBODY. The gay haters included. I deal with all of you assholes here that cast judgement on me--doesn't bother me one fucking bit. I bring some of it on myself. I just don't see the point in talking to such a condescending know it all piece of shit like you any longer. I've never said that about anybody on this site--not even to the worst of em here. It's the internet
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( Also--I wrote that all by myself with no Googling involved! yay!)

I will concede that the first part of my post was condescending and I apologize for that but let’s face it, almost every thread you’re posting is shitting on Trump and it gets old not just from you but everyone. I never said I didn’t use google once in a while, I do but not for everything simply because in most cases you’re going to see the MSM links generally on the first, second and sometimes third pages and it’s basically all the same Trump hating bullshit.

However, my questions regarding how this could possibly translate from Obama especially since the economy REALLY started turning was soon after he rolled back and eliminated Obama’s policies. Those questions I felt weren’t condescending.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #62 on: April 27, 2019, 03:04:15 PM »
Trump is not racist or homophobic.

It depends what constitutes racism. Whether or not we are defining racism as internalized or externalized states.
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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #63 on: April 27, 2019, 03:22:05 PM »
Pssst...Coach?? How ya doing babe?? You good over there in sunny California??
If Trump deserves credit for a roaring stock market, then Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan do as well. In fact, all of them presided over more total record highs in the S&P 500 Index (^GSPC) than Trump has so far.
An article that was posted in the political section here. But don't read it...it's from Yahoo. Everybody knows Yahoo full of a bunch of shill's working for the Dems..
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-total-stock-market-wins-lag-other-presidents-175830205.html

Did you bother to click the link?
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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #64 on: April 27, 2019, 03:23:03 PM »
Every fucken letter of it. More than me just disliking Trump and his racist homophobic ways, I really like a good spy story.

I'm not going to get into a big pissing match with you about this.  Your mind is made up, and you want to see what you want to see.  Your final statement tells me as such, and it also pretty much confirms you are who I thought you were along with some other clues I've noticed the past couple weeks while I couldn't post.  Welcome to the political debates though! 8)

A couple things I'll touch on though. &guy Stone did not say that...it was Olkyansky's testimony about the situation.  He said that Stone said that.  It wasn't Stone claiming he did.

As for the page number thing maybe there's different versions?  That's not really what I mean, but I don't know how to say it. :-\  When I give page numbers I'm giving the numbers actually at the bottom of the pages.  Page 73 is page 81 in my PDF viewer, and you're saying it's p. 80 on yours.....I have no explanation for that ???  I think I got mine off of a yahoo story link that led to another news site IIRC.

I got the Klokov thing messed up about the email.  It was Ivanka that forwarded the email to cohen like you said, but so what?  How the fuck is that collusion?  First of all nothing ever came of it at all, and secondly don't you think that Hillary's team had people offering to help as well?  It's an election for the most powerful position in the world.  We meddle in every election that we can, and start wars to "spread democracy" and you're up in arms about an email from a lady that said google my husband because Ivanka forwarded it?  I guarantee you Bernie probably got some offers for help as well since the IRA/GRU was pro-Sanders as well during the primaries.

You're also right about cohen getting in touch with klokov, but again it was nothing.  The email fumble I was referring to was with the russian dude preskov or something like that, and cohen did initiate that on his own.  As for the thing with Sater, yeah I agree those two dipshits were trying to be "Naw Yarkaz" and thought they'd be cool if they made something happen.....movers and shakers those two baffoons.......problem is nothing came of it.  They talk like 14 year old mobsters.....total douchebags!

You know a lot about Trump, and you're not dumb.  You know damn well that Donald probably knew very little of the details of his campaign people were doing.  He's the marketing guy, and ultimate decision maker, but he delegates ...and YES wrongfully so to some dipshits.  I don't think you can be a businessman in NY for that many years, and not be surrounded by filth, do you?  Politics is new to him, and I do think he made some bad decisions in who to bring with him on his team.......I WILL GIVE U THAT!  It's part of the problem in his administration too.  That's the reason for all the turnover.  He thought he could trust certain people, and learned they are swamp creatures.  Behind the scenes, Nielsen was really working against him by most accounts.  Hopefully, he's learned from all of this and will start going for loyalty by action not by words alone.

That's about as far as I can go with it not having read the whole thing yet, but the outcome and what I've read so far are the same........He didn't collude at all dude!  Let it go!  If you're really so into spy thrillers, and who-dunnits then......https://democratdossier.com/ ,Judicial Watch, and project veritas' YT channels should keep your interest for the next couple years likely.

Seriously "Prudence", you're going to vote for Trump anyway so why let these thoughts about him being racist/homophobe get in the way?  BTW, you left out a key accusation there ;)

Show/tell me how Trump is a racist or anti-gay.....I don't want emotional drama feeling shit. I want where he's oppressed someone for being gay or black!  Those are horrible things to say about a person that you don't know personally so back it up!  It's kinda fucked up that a gay man would judge someone like that when what you guys bitch about is being generalized, and not given a chance to see the real you.  Just sayin....

Every fucking successful rapper practically has lyrics in one of their songs or has made reference in interviews to Trump in a positive light before he came down the escalator.  How did he suddenly become a racist to all of them?  And while you're explaining that, please come up with an explanation of how/why Jay Z's skin tone keeps getting less black, cuz that shit's really confusing? ???

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #65 on: April 27, 2019, 03:27:28 PM »
^ TL;DR
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« Reply #67 on: April 28, 2019, 07:16:17 AM »

You're also right about cohen getting in touch with klokov, but again it was nothing.  The email fumble I was referring to was with the russian dude preskov or something like that, and cohen did initiate that on his own.  As for the thing with Sater, yeah I agree those two dipshits were trying to be "Naw Yarkaz" and thought they'd be cool if they made something happen.....movers and shakers those two baffoons.......problem is nothing came of it.  They talk like 14 year old mobsters.....total douchebags!That's twice you said "but nothing came of it". All parts of the puzzle.  

You know a lot about Trump, and you're not dumb.  You know damn well that Donald probably knew very little of the details of his campaign people were doing.NO--I don't agree with that AT ALL. There are a ton of reports from current and former  associates and high level employees that said NOTHING gets done unless approved by HIM. .  .  He's the marketing guy, and ultimate decision maker, but he delegates ...and YES wrongfully so to some dipshits.  I don't think you can be a businessman in NY for that many years, and not be surrounded by filth, do you? Trump was the filth in NYC. He's been involved in LITERALLY over 3500 court cases. It was KNOWN that if you do contracting work for Trump--there's a good chance he wont pay the agreed amount or not at all. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dozens-of-lawsuits-accuse-trump-of-not-paying-his-bills-reports-claim  

https://democratdossier.com/  Will 100% check it out. I'm pretty sure you know I will when I say it.


Show/tell me how Trump is a racist or anti-gay.....I don't want emotional drama feeling shit. You would never get an emotional response when it comes to my opinions on gay/ straight relations. To some being gay isn't norman. Some of those people aren't homophobes either. They are passively 'pro gay'--which is good enough for me. Come on--the gay guys that get all pissy about how straight guys think they're disgusting is ridiculous. OF COURSE straight guys think gay sex is disgusting! There aren't too many 'straight' men that can watch two guy sucking and fucking and NOT be grossed the fuck out. Why that fact bothers some gay guys is beyond me.
 How is Trump a homophobe--the clearest example I can give is his ban on trans folks in the military. But lets see this 3 second Google search yields (FOR SIMPLICITY PURPOSES ONLY


Saying it’s legal to fire workers for being transgender.
--Arguing in court that it’s legal to fire workers for being gay.
--Making transgender female prisoners live with male prisoners.
--Telling the Supreme Court that shopkeepers can turn away LGBTQ customers.
--Withdrawing Title IX protections for transgender students.
--Refusing to investigate anti-transgender discrimination complaints in public schools.
--Fighting to kick transgender people out of the military.
--Issuing a religious liberty policy to give government workers and contractors a loophole to ignore federal bans on discrimination against women and LGBTQ people.
--Declining to appoint an LGBTQ liaison for the White House.
--Protecting health care workers who don’t help transgender patients.
--Dropping its lawsuit against North Carolina’s anti-transgender law.
--Retracting plans to count LGBTQ people in the Census.
--No longer pressuring foreign governments not to imprison or otherwise persecute their citizens just for being LGBTQ.
--Not allowing employees of international NGOs and government agencies to bring their LGBTQ partners to the United States unless they’re legally married — even in cases where same-sex marriage is illegal for those employees.

 See how I got there? Racist??? Trump NOT Racist? Hmm... to ME (and others)more than being for homeland security, a HUGE fucking chunk of his need for the wall is specifically to keep brown people out.
Remember now--I grew up in NYC and have as I pointed out on a different thread, diskled him for 20 years before he became famous--just like everybody else in NYC. He was sued by the Dept of Justice for violating the Fair Housing Act.  Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations https://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racist-racism-history
 The shit with the Central Park Five is about AS CLEAR AS IT GETS.

1989: In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.

Every fucking successful rapper practically has lyrics in one of their songs or has made reference in interviews to Trump in a positive light before he came down the escalator.  How did he suddenly become a racist to all of them? "ALL" of them?? I thought it was just Kayne West--but I dunno, I listen to real music--The Grateful Dead.  And while you're explaining that, please come up with an explanation of how/why Jay Z's skin tone keeps getting less black, cuz that shit's really confusing? ??? Who? All I know about him is his wife is really hot and he's known to have like a 10 inch big black dick.
I could go on and on with that too.
His comments on Charlottesville???
His saying that Robert E Lee was a great man???

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #68 on: April 28, 2019, 10:34:29 AM »
I could go on and on with that too.
His comments on Charlottesville???
His saying that Robert E Lee was a great man???
What comments on Charlottesville?
Robert E Lee was a great man, do you disagree?
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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #69 on: April 28, 2019, 11:17:38 AM »
I'm not even gonna answer that because your trolling for no real good reason.
You know exactly where I'm coming from.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #70 on: April 28, 2019, 11:23:40 AM »
I could go on and on with that too.
His comments on Charlottesville???
His saying that Robert E Lee was a great man???

Jay Z has lyrics that talk about living like Trump....so do many others.  It's been posted on the net, and I'm pretty sure on here.  I know for sure one song of Jay Z's was posted on here that put the private talk of being able to "grab them by the pussy" to shame....Jay Z is celebrated for those lyrics, and Trump is damned for talking about how groupies are with celebrities.  I've talked about the story with meeting Poison as a kid......bitches throw themselves at these guys just to say they had a 5 minute romp.  They're pathetic creatures, and they exist.  To act like what he was saying was about an every day good woman of any character and morals is just absurd.  It's hearing what you want to hear, and nothing more.

The other stuff you posted to deem him racist proves nothing.  I don't know about that case.  How do we know that if those 5 people were white he wouldn't feel the same way?  Many people to this day still think Gary Conduit (sp?) is the person that killed his intern.......he's not.  To my knowledge he was cleared, but people still accuse and/or don't believe him of being totally innocent.  Likely, many of those people are not white, but that's not racist of them.  It never is ::)

As for the gay stuff, just going to copy and paste...

Saying it’s legal to fire workers for being transgender.
--Arguing in court that it’s legal to fire workers for being gay. (Trump did, or his lawyers?  What were the circumstances?  Did they infringe on or make straight customers, tenants, co-workers uncomfortable or feel violated/harrassed somehow?  There are a lot of sick and inconsiderate gay people, just like there are a lot of sick and inconsiderate straight ones.  Both should be fired.  I'd like to know more...)
--Making transgender female prisoners live with male prisoners. (THEY ARE NOT FEMALES!)
--Telling the Supreme Court that shopkeepers can turn away LGBTQ customers. (Trump doesn't get to tell the Supreme Court what to do.  Private businesses have the right to do whatever the fuck they want.  If a gay cake company only marketed to gay couples, and refused to to straight events; not a single gay person would side with the straight people....in fact they'd cheer the company, and jeer the straights.  You know that is 100% true)
--Withdrawing Title IX protections for transgender students. (admittedly have no idea what that is, but did he do it or the courts? Either way opinion to follow..)
--Refusing to investigate anti-transgender discrimination complaints in public schools. (When did Trump become LE?)
--Fighting to kick transgender people out of the military. (In combat...good)
--Issuing a religious liberty policy to give government workers and contractors a loophole to ignore federal bans on discrimination against women and LGBTQ people. (Admittedly, no clue what you're talking about?)
--Declining to appoint an LGBTQ liaison for the White House. (How many other Presidents had one?  What purpose do they serve?  He's made a lot of cuts.  What the fuck does an LGB liaison do for our nation and government?  Let the administration know that gay's are people too?  I think we've known, and practiced that for a couple decades now)
--Protecting health care workers who don’t help transgender patients. (?)
--Dropping its lawsuit against North Carolina’s anti-transgender law.  (To go into any bathroom they choose based on how they're feeling?....GOOD!)
--Retracting plans to count LGBTQ people in the Census. (What purpose does that serve?  Actually, I'd think you all would be pissed if it were on there!  100% serious...if I was gay, I'd be pissed and offended if I found out that was going to be on there.  I question everything the government does, and would be very leery of them knowing my proclivities. I don't think a question about a person's sexuality, and especially gender confusion is appropriate in any way. I do think how many illegals is not only appropriate, but constitutionally necessary for the appropriate amount of U.S. citizens to be represented in Congress properly....so should you!  Do you?)
--No longer pressuring foreign governments not to imprison or otherwise persecute their citizens just for being LGBTQ. (The middle east is the only place that happens.  You think are men and women are going to go to fight a war over muslims throwing gays off of buildings?  "Some things" and "some people" will never change.  If you're gay you should be smart enough to either get the hell out of those countries b4 flying your pride flag, or just not go there.  No one cares about people that start shit.  The freedoms you have here do not apply throughout the world.  It is not the job of our government to change their beliefs.  Let's be real here Prudence, anything Obama did in that regard was just fluff and posturing.
He did nothing of real value for the gay community)

--Not allowing employees of international NGOs and government agencies to bring their LGBTQ partners to the United States unless they’re legally married — even in cases where same-sex marriage is illegal for those employees.  (I don't know what an NGO is?  The last part of what you're saying is confusing to me...did you mistype?  Anyway, if they are not married than why should they be allowed to bring them here?  Would a foreigner who migrates here be allowed to bring their boyfriend/girlfriend along with them?  NO...so that is not discriminatory)

The reason I keep striking through the T and trans shit, is that I just don't give a fuck about their cause or beliefs other than giving them proper mental health care.  They make up .3% of the population, and are taking up way to much $ and time to accommodate.  It's also becoming trendy, which is just fucking weird and creepy and shows how mental those people are.  You have Scar Jo now saying her 7 year old is trans, parents wanting that as a choice at birth or no choice at all, parents and drs. giving hormone blockers and hormones to kids that are not fully physically or mentally developed, and men wanting to use women's bathrooms........SORRY, BUT NOOOOOO!!!!!!  100% NOOOOOO......to all of that fucking nonsense.  

The only thing in that part I care about, and would like you to elaborate on when it comes to trans is the part about nurses not providing care because they are trans????  That's fucked up if it is standard care, but if it's about forcing a nurse to clean a fake vagina or participating in cock removal surgery; my level of give shit is zero.  I'm not saying trans people don't have human rights, I'm saying they don't deserve any special rights other than needing psychiatric help.  I'm not sorry if that offends you or anyone else.  I'm 100% supportive of gays being protected from harassment, but I am 100% against those that start shit, try to make it seem like it's normal, force feed it down America's throat, or use it as an excuse for everything bad that happens or every bad choice THEY MAKE in life.  It has become the new race card, and that card has divided our nation enough.

This is more than I wanted to type, but it comes back to the question that you and "others" I've asked will never answer.....besides the ability to marry, what has improved in your life as a gay person since 2000ish when gay became pretty widely accepted and harassment laws were put in place?  TV shows like Modern Family?  YIPPEE!

Lastly, the Charlottesville thing....gotta admit, I'm pretty ignorant on the whole thing.  I just saw a lot of rioting and antifa masks, and then sound bites.  I know what you're referring to about Trump's comment about "some good people on both sides", but I have never seen the whole speech and don't know the entire background of it.  I don't know if those comments were made as a speech on the matter, or if it was a spur of the moment reaction to a question.  Either way, I'll keep it 100 and say that he chose poor words about the matter.  I don't think anyone that was rioting, hurting people, and destroying property was being a good person that day.  Beyond that I just know that a lot of statues, and history in that part of the country are being destroyed and I've seen whites and blacks saying that is fucked up.  I'm not saying it's good or bad history......you read and see different things that say motives/reasons/actions were this, that, and the other back then.  I'm honest enough to say that having never lived in that part of the country it was not something that was taught in my k-12 experience, and the confederacy is nothing I've ever really looked into.  I just know I loved Dukes of Hazzard a shit ton as a kid......still do, and when I think of "General Lee" the first thing that comes to mind is a big orange dodge challenger flying off a hill with two dudes yelling "YEE HAAAWW!!"

At some point you have to admit that people are taking this "I'm offended" shit way too far, and it is destroying our nation.  I'm very pleased to see you being honest about understanding the being grossed out thing.  Look, I had a girlfriend in my late teens that was a fucking nympho and saw a relationship as being attached at the hip.  If we were hanging out and talking, and she had to pee she say come with me so we can keep talking.......and it became a bit of a thing.  Golden shower/chicks pissing vids make me chuckle, and make me think of happy times.  TMI, but I don't give a fuck.....the point is that most others think it's disgusting, but I'm not on a crusade to convince anyone seeing that and being turned on is the norm.  It's also part of the reason that I'm so opposed to this tranny / "gender fluid" being able to go into any bathroom they want.  You're just opening the door (literally) to people with a perversion going into a place they don't belong to get their rocks off under the disguise of them being different and needing to be protected.  You piss and shit behind the door that is labeled with the sex you were born in public and at work. PERIOD!  Those people are fucking whack jobs, and if I had a daughter I'd knock a mutha fucker out for trying to go into the women's bathroom while my child was in there......legal or not!

P.S. - Beyonce is not hot in any way, shape, or form without designer clothes and lot's of make up artists......even then it's debatable.  Way to bring things back around to the size of Jay Z's dick at the end ::)  You just can't help yourself......and that my friend is what makes straight people uneasy around you guys.  Not all (I've known a good #), but most are never able to be "just one of the guys".

P.P.S.- There is no such thing as homophobia.  Stop using that word.  It's absurd.  What you described initially about being grossed out is 100% accurate.  Being disgusted, and having a phobia are two very different terms.  Anti-gay or gay haters would be much more appropriate, and I don't think the overwhelming majority of Americans are either one of those things.  Life and this country are as divided, hateful, mean, etc. as you want to see it......the media is certainly not helping gays or minorities view.  In your daily life, does what you see on the national news mirror what you see locally?  

It doesn't for me........not even remotely.  Maybe my lens is skewed cuz I grew up with skaters, and then in the gym?  It's something I've thought of in trying to understand all the outrage I see on the national news, and the internet.  In all fairness, both are misfit brigades, and have a mentality that as long as you're one of us and respectful of one another you're all good. Everyone I know in those circles would stand up and throw fists (or swing skateboard decks :D) for each other in a second regardless of orientation or skin tone.  Maybe I just got lucky in picking those activities that surrounded me with those types of people...  8)

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #71 on: April 28, 2019, 11:25:59 AM »
Well fuck me....that turned out way longer than it seemed to be while typing :o

I doubt Prudence will have any further questions. ;D

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #72 on: April 28, 2019, 11:27:07 AM »
Im running out the door right now--ill deal with you later Sir.
I didnt read it yet, but look forward to it.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #73 on: April 28, 2019, 12:00:02 PM »
Im running out the door right now--ill deal with you later Sir.
I didnt read it yet, but look forward to it.


No worries.  I'm late for the gym now because of that.  LOL!

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #74 on: April 28, 2019, 12:57:04 PM »
Holy long posts in this thread lol.
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