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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2019, 08:34:36 AM »
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/us-economic-growth-gdp-first-quarter-2019

Damn, Coach, you wake up 5h30 in the morninh to read Fox News, before your High Fat breakfast!?

OMG, let alone the fact, that later in the Day you will drive looong 80 Miles to Golds Venice to train, hang and get the inside scoop on Dex and Charles Camp to Tampa Pro 2019, before adding a 300 plus extra dollars to your weekly gas fee

Coach, youre my Number 1 Hero :)

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #26 on: April 26, 2019, 08:38:21 AM »
Damn, Coach, you wake up 5h30 in the morninh to read Fox News, before your High Fat breakfast!?

OMG, let alone the fact, that later in the Day you will drive looong 80 Miles to Golds Venice to train, hang and get the inside scoop on Dex and Charles Camp to Tampa Pro 2019, before adding a 300 plus extra dollars to your weekly gas fee

Coach, youre my Number 1 Hero :)

Which is why I’ll always look better and be more informed than you.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2019, 08:39:05 AM »
Obama averaged under 2% GDP for 8 years. Trump is above 3%. If Obama was averaging over 3% CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, Washington Post, and the rest would talk about it first for days. Trump has the lowest Black, Hispanic, Asian and Woman unemployment in history.  Guys like Prudence cares more about feelings than results. This is when non factual labels come in like Trump is a racist for not wanting open borders. Thank God for video tape because we have Obama, Bill Clinton, and Schumer talking tougher on the border than Trump.  The only difference is Trump wants to actually do something about it. Trump despite all the attacks has done incredible things for this country. Liberals don't realize they are being led by a few men that own the News providers listed above. A few men own all of social media. A few men own all the search engines. On common denominator is that they are all uber left liberals like most filthy rich people are.

Excellent post!

When it comes to the stuff on video, we also have Biden making fun of/disparaging muslims, AND him admitting that he's used his power while VP to get the prosecutor in the Ukraine fired that was investigating why the fuck his son Hunter was getting millions of dollars deposited into his bank account for doing jack shit.  BTW, we're going to be hearing more and more about the Ukraine before 2020. ;)  Russia was not the only one that meddled in our election that Obama's administration did nothing about!  :-X

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #28 on: April 26, 2019, 08:40:29 AM »
So if he had all Americans he'd be discriminatory, and a racist......if he hires immigrants, he's against American workers and wants cheap labor???

How does he win with the left?

Nevermind, that we have no idea what those positions pay for an immigrant vs. an American.   Also, no one wants to acknowledge the facts that his club caters to an international clientele.  We know that he has Asians working there, so it's not all hispanics.  Also, FL has an extremely large number of immigrants in the first place.  Anyone stop to think that being bi-lingual is a requirement, and most Americans are not?  Of course not!!

Here's something else the msm will never cover..........UNTIL THEY HAVE TO.......  https://democratdossier.com/dossier/


AND THEY WILL!!!!!!! 8)

You can’t win with them but then again who cares. They’ve already made asses of themselves so now we just sit back and laugh.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #29 on: April 26, 2019, 08:40:34 AM »
Which is why I’ll always look better and be more informed than you.

Im not a proud Natty, Coach, but you prolly look better than me, thats some truth right there

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2019, 08:46:15 AM »
Remember when Biden hopped on Airforce II to go to China to talk about trade and his son went along? Ten days later his son got a billion dollar deal with the Chinese. How about the Ukraine thing with his son?  Remember when Biden talking about Obama's attributes and one of the things he said was he's a clean African American?  Look at the video on Biden talking about Obama's attributes when he said this for yourself and not CNN's insane agenda spin on it.  

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2019, 08:54:23 AM »

It’s not my opinion. If you support the left you are in FACT, a socialist communist.

Fixed.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #32 on: April 26, 2019, 08:56:15 AM »
Remember when Biden hopped on Airforce II to go to China to talk about trade and his son went along? Ten days later his son got a billion dollar deal with the Chinese. How about the Ukraine thing with his son?  Remember when Biden talking about Obama's attributes and one of the things he said was he's a clean African American?  Look at the video on Biden talking about Obama's attributes when he said this for yourself and not CNN's insane agenda spin on it.  

Theyre politics, they want the easy Cash. Its funny cause its always on the Dems.
So the Oil Companies that  George W. Bush had over the years made very well because He was The President, or was it just a coincidence??

Im pretty sure Trump will also double his net, after 8 Years, which is fine with me, cause all of them are on it for the Money, and the Power..

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2019, 09:58:36 AM »
You can’t win with them but then again who cares. They’ve already made asses of themselves so now we just sit back and laugh.

That's how I thought it would be, and I did laugh at first Coach......

However, it's really disturbing and eye opening how brainwashed these people watching msm are that they are still saying the shit they're saying.....and they believe it! :o  

Even more disturbing, is how the left wing media not only just refuses to admit they fucked up (props to the NYT's for doing so), but is further perpetuating the narrative.  I watched ABC the morning of the release, and watched Maddow and CNN that night.   I find it pretty telling about these propaganda stations and of their viewers, that they found it completely absurd that Barr.....a legal expert, could read it and come up with a conclusion in 48 hours, AND YET......within an hour of it being released ABC's Stephanopolis and his crew were experts on the whole thing.  By that night, less than 8 hours later....Maddow, who stated that night she is not a lawyer also seemingly had read, and was offering conclusions on the whole thing too.   ::)   At the very least, they owe Barr an apology for mocking his ability to read and understand it in 2 full days, when they were able to do it right away. ::)

Most people will never bother to read it.  I've read about 90 pages so far, and it took me 2 hours.  It reads like one of the shittiest law class term papers I've ever read.  Seriously, I took my biz law 1 & 2 classes at a community college to save money, and some of the worst projects at the end of each course were laid out  and made better use of the IRAC method than this pile of shit.  People hear "it's 448 page", and think of a small print book.  This thing is like 11-14 font 1.5 spaced on 8.5x11 paper.  And there's a shit load of breaks, spacing, and footnotes.  It was minimally redacted, and NO executive privilege was used.  Something no other president has done, and they are still attacking Trump and Barr for not being transparent.  WTF?  The delusion is just over the top man!

Also, the media is conveniently leaving out the fact that in more than one place in the report (again in just the first 90 pages I've read) it makes mention that the IRA/GRU were pulling for Bernie or Trump.......and this stuff started no later than 2014 which is well before Trump came into the fold.  They were pulling for Bernie, because his ideals mirror theirs.  They were pulling for Trump, because of his lack of political experience.  Which one of those two should really be scary as fuck to people????

These people are fucking crazy!  I just didn't understand how crazy until after it was finally released, and now I'm afraid of these people having the right to vote.  They have no concern for the country.  No concern with law and justice.  They just do not like Trump.  Period.  They can't tell you why........they just do! :'( >:(

One great thing, is that these dumbfucks want to subpoena Mueller and see the unredacted version......which btw Barr offered to let 12 do in a secure area, and they refused.  There's shit in there about Hillary, Obama, and the Ukraine.  Judicial Watch has mentioned some of it.  Just reading it myself, I can tell one of the main redactions is actually Huma Abadein (sp?)  They are shooting themselves in the foot, and setting themselves up which I'm cool with.  They just found Weiner's laptop in the WH, and it has like 40,000 of Hillary's deleted emails :o AND, guess who is included in the emails as testified to under oath by someone high up in the FBI or DOJ (can't remember who granted the FOIA?)?  I'll give you all a hint.  The person refers to killed Christians in Sri Lanka as "Easter Worshippers" :o :o :o :o

Shit is about to get really fucking messy.  Wouldn't be surprised if the Clintons flee the country soon, and/or people start dying mysteriously.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2019, 10:00:46 AM »
Certain social programs are fine and a must but we’re not talking about that. We’re talking about socialism as the left are spouting.

Gotcha.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2019, 10:01:27 AM »
Remember when Biden hopped on Airforce II to go to China to talk about trade and his son went along? Ten days later his son got a billion dollar deal with the Chinese. How about the Ukraine thing with his son?  Remember when Biden talking about Obama's attributes and one of the things he said was he's a clean African American?  Look at the video on Biden talking about Obama's attributes when he said this for yourself and not CNN's insane agenda spin on it.  

That's what I was referencing in my earlier post about the prosecutor in the Ukraine being fired.  Biden is on tape bragging about it.  "we leave in 6 hours.  You're not getting your $1 billion unless he's fired.....wouldn't ya know it, a little bit later he's fired"  Not only is Biden corrupt and creepy, but he's got a big fucking mouth!

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2019, 10:29:06 AM »
1st, Coach posts a link from a main stream media saying you won't hear this from mainstream media.. can't make this stuff up  :)

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/26/gdp-q1-2019-first-read.html    Not MSM?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/26/economy/us-gdp-report-q1/index.html    Not MSM?

Stop being silly coach...


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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2019, 10:45:05 AM »
All you would have to do would be to go through Trump's hundreds of regulatory cuts to reach that 20 good things he's done threshold very easily so that's a pretty bad argument.

Why is it that so many on this board that claim that they don't have political affiliation align so much with liberal ideology? Just come out and say it. Your posts show what you believe no matter what you claim you are.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2019, 11:45:38 AM »
Oh yeah. I love this. Let’s  start with the economy. I haven’t been find ONE person and with some economic degrees from UCLA to tell me how this is even close to being Obama’s anything since Trump reversed almost everything Obama has implemented that wasn’t working is all of the working.  
Why does the person have to be from UCLA? Your hero Trump didn't go there.
Trump takes credit for the good economy. Here's what economists say

 Did he help the stock market? Of course he did. Was it ALL his doing, with no 'trickle down' effect from the previous administration? It's been proven otherwise.


One great thing, is that these dumbfucks want to subpoena Mueller and see the unredacted version......which btw Barr offered to let 12 do in a secure area, and they refused.
First off it was NOT a fully redacted version--it was a "LESS" redacted version. Why only 12 people?? Why not the entire body of Congress?  The offer Barr made was 12 people can see it, they can't have a copy and could not take the report out of that room or discuss it with other members of Congress WTF?? Why let them see it at all then? Pointless offer.
Question for you B_MyT---
Out of the 90 pages you've read--you see ABSOLUTELY nothing that looks-- just LOOKS like obstruction or collusion? Not one single entry in that entire report?
(serious question)

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2019, 01:02:57 PM »
::::What you WILL hear in the MSM today::::
Trump Says Mar-A-Lago Can’t Find US Workers To Hire. New Documents Show Dozens Applied.
He opted for the cheap immigrant labor....AGAIN.

Trump often says his resorts have no choice but to hire foreign guest workers — there just aren’t any Americans to take the jobs. But government records show nearly 60 US residents applied for those jobs, and only one was hired.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kenbensinger/mar-a-lago-rejected-dozens-of-americans-in-favor-of-foreign
This is a total bullshit article.  I could tell a few paragraphs in with the sentence:
 "Instead of giving jobs to local workers, the Trump properties applied for permission to bring in more than 375 low-wage workers from abroad on short-term visas."

First off, these are not low wage workers.  You can't pay them less then the prevailing wage for the specific job they are applying for.  That's the law.  These programs are extremely tedious.  I use the H2A program for my business.  I actually have to pay an "adverse affect wage" to the workers I bring in.  The min wage in FL is $8.40.  I have to pay my guys $11.26 and provide food, housing and transportation.  I also cannot just bring workers in without first offering jobs to domestic workers.  I can only bring in workers after I prove there is a labor shortage in the job tasks i'm looking for. 

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2019, 01:05:50 PM »
This is a total bullshit article.  I could tell a few paragraphs in with the sentence:
 "Instead of giving jobs to local workers, the Trump properties applied for permission to bring in more than 375 low-wage workers from abroad on short-term visas."

First off, these are not low wage workers.  You can't pay them less then the prevailing wage for the specific job they are applying for.  That's the law.  These programs are extremely tedious.  I use the H2A program for my business.  I actually have to pay an "adverse affect wage" to the workers I bring in.  The min wage in FL is $8.40.  I have to pay my guys $11.26 and provide food, housing and transportation.  I also cannot just bring workers in without first offering jobs to domestic workers.  I can only bring in workers after I prove there is a labor shortage in the job tasks i'm looking for. 

$11.26 in Florida is not that bad. Most workers here from Mexico and Brazil dosent even speak English.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2019, 01:10:08 PM »
$11.26 in Florida is not that bad. Most workers here from Mexico and Brazil dosent even speak English.
It's great for the guys I bring in.  They make $125-175 a day with free housing and food.  In mexico they make $10 a day doing the same job.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2019, 01:11:19 PM »
It's great for the guys I bring in.  They make $125-175 a day with free housing and food.  In mexico they make $10 a day doing the same job.

$175 a Day? Damn, where do I apply? :)

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #43 on: April 26, 2019, 01:15:32 PM »
$175 a Day? Damn, where do I apply? :)
haha. You'd have to pick vegetables in the FL sun for 10-11 hours a day.  It's brutal work but someone has to do it.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #44 on: April 26, 2019, 01:27:28 PM »
Why does the person have to be from UCLA? Your hero Trump didn't go there.
Trump takes credit for the good economy. Here's what economists say

 Did he help the stock market? Of course he did. Was it ALL his doing, with no 'trickle down' effect from the previous administration? It's been proven otherwise.
First off it was NOT a fully redacted version--it was a "LESS" redacted version. Why only 12 people?? Why not the entire body of Congress?  The offer Barr made was 12 people can see it, they can't have a copy and could not take the report out of that room or discuss it with other members of Congress WTF?? Why let them see it at all then? Pointless offer.
Question for you B_MyT---
Out of the 90 pages you've read--you see ABSOLUTELY nothing that looks-- just LOOKS like obstruction or collusion? Not one single entry in that entire report?
(serious question)

That video was a backfire and you obviously didn’t watch it. The markets first hit 26000 of January 2018, Goolsby is an Obama economist (who I actually like listening to when he’s on Fox) all of the critics since that video was made as of this date were proven wrong much like Krugman. If you want the real answer (and it hasn’t changed since that piece was made) go to the 8:30 mark. When I get back, I want YOu to explain how the this was Obama’s or even partly Obama’s economy when I ask you a few simple questions.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #45 on: April 26, 2019, 04:56:56 PM »
So are you saying this Buzzfeed article is more than just false?? It's an outright lie?
is that what you are saying?

I am saying you are stupid.  Just stupid.  The kind of stupid that your parents had to explain away at family gatherings.  What is it someone here said...You're so inbred I'm gonna have to call you sandwich? 

You may have to think about that one for a bit, champ. 

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #46 on: April 26, 2019, 08:26:05 PM »
1st, Coach posts a link from a main stream media saying you won't hear this from mainstream media.. can't make this stuff up  :)

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/26/gdp-q1-2019-first-read.html    Not MSM?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/26/economy/us-gdp-report-q1/index.html    Not MSM?

Stop being silly coach...



I'm going to be honest in saying I did not click and read these links, but the ones I have read in msm so far last night and today all end up slamming Trump and/or give credit to Obama.  That's absurd, and I quit reading them when I got that far.  The only reason Obama had any "highs" was because of the housing/lending crisis rebound.  We've never seen highs like we're seeing with Trump, and the stock market starting to climb was making the news right after he won.  That was despite Obama still being in office a couple more months, not because of him being there then or prior.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #47 on: April 26, 2019, 08:36:25 PM »
1st, Coach posts a link from a main stream media saying you won't hear this from mainstream media.. can't make this stuff up  :)

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/26/gdp-q1-2019-first-read.html    Not MSM?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/26/economy/us-gdp-report-q1/index.html    Not MSM?

Stop being silly coach...



No one can fuck up on the economic numbers, it’s out there and it’s hard to spin. It’s the politics they spin. Economy wise, I like CNBC but usually go by IBD.

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #48 on: April 26, 2019, 09:03:38 PM »

Question for you B_MyT---
Out of the 90 pages you've read--you see ABSOLUTELY nothing that looks-- just LOOKS like obstruction or collusion? Not one single entry in that entire report?
(serious question)

First of all, I just have to say that I find it hysterical that we're such cynical assholes on this site daily that we have to include (serious question) every time we want to let it be know we are in fact being serious and curious to know how a person truly feels......that's not a slam in any way, as I do it all the time as well. ;D

To answer your question:

I haven't read since the 2nd day it came out, but I do plan to read the whole thing.  I stated in my other post how it read, and that made me lose a bit of interest/vigor for reading it especially once I realized during the first day that the media was not going to let up.  So I went to my notes I was taking....

In the first 90 pages.....NO!  I don't see anything that looks like collusion or obstruction by Trump (keep in mind obstruction is not covered til part 2).  I can see how someone would say otherwise that is totally invested in the collusion scheme though, as the beginning is written under the premise that collusion will be found and it's the whole reason for the investigation.  I know this was supposedly an independent counsel investigation, but I don't see how anyone can objectively and honestly say that an investigation conducted by "Obama's FBI" that took over 2 years to reach a conclusion was actually unbiased.  Cohen was interviewed as late as Nov 2018 according to the part I've read so far.   Why?  He was a proven liar by then.  They wanted an answer to be what they wanted to hear, and the only reason we finally got a report was because Barr got put into place, and said "enough is enough....whip it out and show us what you got" (Tried to make that reader friendly for you to keep your interest ;))

P. 23 states that the IRA started in 2014 and posted critique of Killary b4 she even announced.

p. 27 @missournewsus posted pro-Sanders material  (so I guess he colluded with the russians too then?)

p. 61 "Stone refused the offer, stating that Trump WOULD NOT pay for opposition research"

p. 62  "Ledeen began search for Clinton emails at the latest possible starting point in dec. 2015, which was long b4 Flynn's supposed request or Trump's statements" -  not sure if I was paraphrasing that or those were word for word...not going back to reread right now.....just wanted to clarify.  "Trump's statements" refers to "russia if you're listening" though.  I remember that for certain.

p. 72  This is where I feel there's some shenanigans, but it's not Trump doing it.  Mr. big shot fucktard new yorker cohen, and some other guy I didn't write down said something about "2 boys from brooklyn" being responsible for getting a president of the U.S. elected.  If I'm being honest, if Cohen would have had more stroke or as much as he thought he did there likely would have been some collusion.  He's a scummy little fuck that strives on power, and being a mover and shaker.  He kept trying to make things happen, and was continually put in his place.

p. 73 more illustration of cohen being a dipshit.  Couldn't even send a fucking email to the right address when trying to email Klokov about Trump Tower project, and getting russian officials involved.  He did not even know klokov.....just reached out trying to be the shit.  Sent "follow-on emails" referencing a "near-term trip"....what douche uses that language?  He was not authorized, and Trump's schedule didn't allow for such a visit, nor was Trump interested as on p. 78 it states that Trump turned down the St. Petersburg business conference invite.  BTW, even in follow up interviews into 2018 Cohen still thought Klokov was a former olympic lifter he had found researching background of the russian official's name to correspond in emails......wrong person!!!

p. 79 I'd have to go back to read who it was, but I wrote down "early private channel" between putin and george w. bush.  This was in reference to someone from russia trying to show that they would be worth having on board team Trump.  Hmmmmm.......so this type of stuff is not new???  Anyway, it never happened with Trump.

That's as far as I got.  When I say I read 90 pages, I'm talking about in PDF view.  I think p. 91 in pdf view is p. 79 or so of the actual report page numbers where I left off.

So you tell me where there's any collusion in that?

Serious question.....have you read, or are you reading the report for yourself or are you just going along with what the media is telling you?

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Re: What you won’t hear in the MSM today
« Reply #49 on: April 27, 2019, 07:04:49 AM »
No one can fuck up on the economic numbers, it’s out there and it’s hard to spin. It’s the politics they spin. Economy wise, I like CNBC but usually go by IBD.

will you at least admit you were wrong about MSM mentioning it? I mean, I did post 2 examples in addition to the example you posted...