Study says single joint exercise is worthless.

[SF1900]

Brazilian scientist...   Faulty study. 30 people leads to too much variation. And also they should only target one muscle group to make the study more specific and precise.

Need to have thousands of test subjects. Ie. 1000 people test subjects doing exclusive multijoint excercise, 1000 test subjects doing single joint excersices. And then compare bicep measurements before/after study. Diet being the same for all people in the group. Rep range the same. Exact same conditions for all test subjects.

Ex. one test of 1000 people group doing pullups Only.

One group of 1000 people doing concentration curls, hammer curls, wide grip curls, close grip curls.

Then after 3 months, compare bicep measurement before/after.

Good luck finding a study of that magnitude. Many barriers to conducting such research.

[Thin Lizzy]

Good luck finding a study of that magnitude. Many barriers to conducting such research.

Single joint movements are almost always done from a position of bad leverage , and,
as a result, you can’t use much weight. Hard to see how they would make you stronger.

[SF1900]

Single joint movements are almost always done from a position of bad leverage , and,
as a result, you can’t use much weight. Hard to see how they would make you stronger.

Probably don't.

I do single joint movements because I am not really training for ultimate strength.

Nonetheless, conducting a study with 1000+ participants, while controlling for all those variables, would be very tough. Researchers are probably working within the parameters of their own constraints.

[IRON CROSS]

Compound lifts for the win!!

Kettlebell swing 

[IRON CROSS]

Probably don't.

I do single joint movements because I am not really training for ultimate strength.

Just like SEATING & training biceps on supinator machinery 

[SF1900]

You beat SF to it.

LMAO!! 

[SF1900]

Just like SEATING & training biceps on supinator machinery  

If you train on the Bicep Supination Machine enough times, you eventually transform into a real life transformer

[ratherbebig]

its hardly news that excercises like tricep pulley and leg exstensions are neither strength nor mass builders

i use them or variations of them as a warm up sometimes and for that they might be beneficial but i certainly dont expect them to make a significant difference to my physique.

charles glass may think different.

[IRON CROSS]

If you train on the Bicep Supination Machine enough times, you eventually transform into a real life transformer

Just like those 'Star Trek' cyborgs  

[Thin Lizzy]

I think you get more out of pronating a.k.a. hammer curls. You might not get the bicep peak  but you get the brachioradialis development that you won’t get from supinating. It’s easier on your wrists as well.

[The Scott]

I think you get more out of pronating a.k.a. hammer curls. You might not get the bicep peak  but you get the brachioradialis development that you won’t get from supinating. It’s easier on your wrists as well.

I just started doing Hammer Curls a couple of weeks ago.  In well over 4 decades of weight training I have never done them but I can say that I prefer them to the standard DB curls because they don't HURT.  I only do 6 total sets once or twice a week and that's including warmup sets. 

[ratherbebig]

I just started doing Hammer Curls a couple of weeks ago.  In well over 4 decades of weight training I have never done them but I can say that I prefer them to the standard DB curls because they don't HURT.  I only do 6 total sets once or twice a week and that's including warmup sets. 

imagine if you wouldve done hammercurls instead for 40 years.

but to imagine that we first need to imagine you having a brain.

[Griffith]

its hardly news that excercises like tricep pulley and leg exstensions are neither strength nor mass builders

i use them or variations of them as a warm up sometimes and for that they might be beneficial but i certainly dont expect them to make a significant difference to my physique.

charles glass may think different.

What is the point of leg extensions? Going on the stationary bike would give a better warm-up without putting massive stress on the knee joint.

[The Scott]

imagine if you wouldve done hammercurls instead for 40 years.

but to imagine that we first need to imagine you having a brain.

You are such a smart ass, I bet you could sit on a one gallon tub of ice cream and tell us all what flavor it is, huh?  Such a clever lad you are.

[ratherbebig]

What is the point of leg extensions? Going on the stationary bike would give a better warm-up without putting massive stress on the knee joint.

thats how it starts.

one minute youre sitting on the stationary bike, the next youre riding a dick.

[wes]

Does this make sense? Curls and tricep extensions worthless? Leg extensions/ leg curls worthless?

http://www.ergo-log.com/anabolic-steroids-single-joint-exercises-training-routine.html

"If bodybuilders already target a muscle with a multi-joint exercise, then it makes little sense to also train this muscle with a single-joint exercise. This also applies to bodybuilders who have been training with weights for years, and also to bodybuilders who use anabolics," report Brazilian sports scientists in the Journal European Journal of Sport Science.

POPPYCOCK !!

[tres_taco_combo]

for arms, big arms I am a fan of 1000s of reps, tons of posings, constant blood flow

for big leg legs/back it is different - hence for arms if you want them grow... do tons of reps.... feeders please

[chaos]

I did a couple of sets of db curls last week.

[ratherbebig]

I did a couple of sets of db curls last week.

you wasted several minutes!!!

[pellius]

I don't think the study is saying that single joint exercise is worthless per se. I think it's saying that if you are doing compound movements then isolation movements are unnecessary.

[polychronopolous]

Jason Blaha said isolation tricep exercises should be avoided until you can close grip bench 405 pounds.

[chaos]

Jason Blaha said isolation tricep exercises should be avoided until you can close grip bench 405 pounds.

Whatever happened to that guy?

[Vince B]

Single joint movements are almost always done from a position of bad leverage , and,
as a result, you can’t use much weight. Hard to see how they would make you stronger.

You qualify as a broscientist with that statement.

[pellius]

You qualify as a broscientist with that statement.

STFU Basile! Stay out of my threads. No one wants to hear your same old condescending "bro science everyone is an expert" refrain. You have no credibility on this board. You're a conceited, self-important, fat clown that no one takes seriously and just mocks and ridicules.

Seriously, fatso, just go before things start to get really ugly -- again?

[Vince B]

STFU Basile! Stay out of my threads. No one wants to hear your same old condescending "bro science everyone is an expert" refrain. You have no credibility on this board. You're a conceited, self-important, fat clown that no one takes seriously and just mocks and ridicules.

Seriously, fatso, just go before things start to get really ugly -- again?

Philip Gilkey is a real dickhead.