Author Topic: Phil Heath looking bloofy on 05-12-19 (Read 31449 times)

SF1900 · « **Reply #125 on:** May 14, 2019, 08:07:41 AM »

Quote from: Kahn.N.Singh on May 14, 2019, 08:03:16 AM

On the one hand, Fortress speaks from empirical experience. He claimed not to "think" what his friend was eating, he claimed to "witness" everyday examples of dirty eating.

On the other hand, Coach lacks Fortress's privileged epistemic standpoint, but is able, without any evidentiary proof, to "guarantee" that Fortress' account is not reliable.

Let's see: Slam dunk - Coach wins.

Lmao!!!

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #126 on:** May 14, 2019, 08:15:55 AM »

Quote from: Kahn.N.Singh on May 14, 2019, 08:03:16 AM

On the one hand, Fortress speaks from empirical experience. He claimed not to "think" what his friend was eating, he claimed to "witness" everyday examples of dirty eating.

On the other hand, Coach lacks Fortress's privileged epistemic standpoint, but is able, without any evidentiary proof, to "guarantee" that Fortress' account is not reliable.

Let's see: Slam dunk - Coach wins.

For an “intellectual” you got it wrong again. Damn!

Trade school.

SF1900 · « **Reply #127 on:** May 14, 2019, 08:50:08 AM »

Quote from: Coach is Back! on May 14, 2019, 08:15:55 AM

For an “intellectual” you got it wrong again. Damn!

Trade school.

Coach, youre wrong.

There is no way you can definitively know what exact drugs your friends use.

Dave D · « **Reply #128 on:** May 14, 2019, 09:15:11 AM »

Quote from: SF1900 on May 14, 2019, 08:50:08 AM

Coach, youre wrong.

There is no way you can definitively know what exact drugs your friends use.

What if in this situation the athlete is monitored via video 24/7 and blood and urine samples are tested every 3 hours during non sleeping hours. Stool samples would also need to be collected and tested. Obviously the athlete in question would be hooked up to some sort of sleep monitoring system, in addition to the video surveillance.

In the proposed scenario it would be possible for Coach, or anyone who has access to the data, to definitively know every drug used.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #129 on:** May 14, 2019, 10:02:22 AM »

Quote from: SF1900 on May 14, 2019, 08:50:08 AM

Coach, youre wrong.

There is no way you can definitively know what exact drugs your friends use.

How did you make it through school? Where did I say I knew everything that everybody was taking?

Kahn.N.Singh · « **Reply #130 on:** May 14, 2019, 10:19:20 AM »

Quote from: Coach is Back! on May 14, 2019, 08:15:55 AM

For an “intellectual” you got it wrong again. Damn!

Trade school.

Coach, you cut me to the quick. Especially, since I judged in your favor -- it was a slam dunk!

However, the above statement commits the fallacy known as "proof by assertion," an unreliable and unsupported claim. Why, because you say so? Again, I am hurt.

However, I am happy with your advice to pursue Trade School, which, by your lights, is a better alternative to universities. Thanks, Coach!

pellius · « **Reply #131 on:** May 14, 2019, 12:03:34 PM »

Quote from: Coach is Back! on May 12, 2019, 08:25:02 AM

Possibly the dumbest bodybuilding quote ever made

From one of the dumbest posters.

SF1900 · « **Reply #132 on:** May 14, 2019, 01:03:34 PM »

Quote from: Coach is Back! on May 14, 2019, 10:02:22 AM

How did you make it through school? Where did I say I knew everything that everybody was taking?

Coach, I know you have reading comprehension problems, so please go back and read my statement.

I said that you can't definitely know what your FRIENDS (I use friends to mean the people you train with) are taking. The keyword being "FRIENDS." I never said you knew what everyone was taking. I said, what your "FRIENDS" were taking. Hence my statement, "There is no way you can definitively know what exact drugs your friends use." Friends in no way implies "everybody."

Furthermore, you stated, "I’ve know pros as well as state and National level competitors win on half or less that what their nearest competitors ran. I know a pro right now going into the NY Pro on less than a gram and half and looks phenomenal." This implies that you knew who was taking more or less. However, there is no way for you to definitevly know this unless you followed them around and saw everything they took every day.

XFACTOR · « **Reply #133 on:** May 14, 2019, 01:31:25 PM »

Quote from: Kahn.N.Singh on May 14, 2019, 10:19:20 AM

Coach, you cut me to the quick. Especially, since I judged in your favor -- it was a slam dunk!

However, the above statement commits the fallacy known as "proof by assertion," an unreliable and unsupported claim. Why, because you say so? Again, I am hurt.

However, I am happy with your advice to pursue Trade School, which, by your lights, is a better alternative to universities. Thanks, Coach!

hahahahahah this guy is hilarious. Nice style

Bevo · « **Reply #134 on:** May 14, 2019, 06:59:39 PM »

Quote from: SF1900 on May 14, 2019, 01:03:34 PM

Coach, I know you have reading comprehension problems, so please go back and read my statement.

I said that you can't definitely know what your FRIENDS (I use friends to mean the people you train with) are taking. The keyword being "FRIENDS." I never said you knew what everyone was taking. I said, what your "FRIENDS" were taking. Hence my statement, "There is no way you can definitively know what exact drugs your friends use." Friends in no way implies "everybody."

Furthermore, you stated, "I’ve know pros as well as state and National level competitors win on half or less that what their nearest competitors ran. I know a pro right now going into the NY Pro on less than a gram and half and looks phenomenal." This implies that you knew who was taking more or less. However, there is no way for you to definitevly know this unless you followed them around and saw everything they took every day.

Can coach share the names of these competitors? He can IM all of us if he doesn’t want it to be known

Coach, you are so quick to ask us who these competitors are but you do the same thing, who’s this NY pro and other nationals competitors who take less you are referring too?

tres_taco_combo · « **Reply #135 on:** May 14, 2019, 07:37:49 PM »

Quote from: che on May 12, 2019, 06:25:53 AM

He looks 1000x better than this guy

shawn ray's take on the whole deal

che · « **Reply #136 on:** May 14, 2019, 07:56:44 PM »

Quote from: tres_taco_combo on May 14, 2019, 07:37:49 PM

shawn ray's take on the whole deal

He's right

Wiggs · « **Reply #137 on:** May 14, 2019, 08:34:18 PM »

Shawn is correct.

tres_taco_combo · « **Reply #138 on:** May 14, 2019, 09:04:55 PM »

yep - i also agree with Mr. Ray too

Bevo · « **Reply #139 on:** May 14, 2019, 09:58:30 PM »

I agree with Ray Shawn as well

Sir Bigness · « **Reply #140 on:** May 14, 2019, 10:59:38 PM »

Oj or more OJ,, we all know what time it is!!
Sept will tell

Sir Bigness · « **Reply #141 on:** May 14, 2019, 11:08:27 PM »

Ok, ,ok!! Calm down!! Weeeks to go,, lots to change!! These guys know there shit!! You guy will get your chance to dry hump your pillow to there bods!

Ronnie Rep · « **Reply #142 on:** May 15, 2019, 05:08:26 AM »

Shawn is absolutely right. Take some fucking pride in the way you look. You are fucking Mr.O. Don't see that happening this year.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #143 on:** May 15, 2019, 08:57:38 AM »

Quote from: Bevo on May 14, 2019, 06:59:39 PM

Can coach share the names of these competitors? He can IM all of us if he doesn’t want it to be known

Coach, you are so quick to ask us who these competitors are but you do the same thing, who’s this NY pro and other nationals competitors who take less you are referring too?

You should know better than to ask anyone especially myself to share a name of anyone I’ve helped. There, now know how I know EXACTLY what at least these guys were/are taking.

Just to add, I’m kinda done sharing pretty much anything with anyone on here, I mean, since you guys have all trained and prepared people for shows that have won, competed yourselves and know the process inside and out, know about diet, training and drugs I’ll just sit back and watch. I mean seriously, when was the last time you went to show to at least get an idea? How often do you go? Or does everyone shit on bodybuilding all year around only to ask for the live streams each year of Arnold and Olympia’s only to comment “they wouldn’t be shit without drugs” if that’s the case, why watch? Why be on here even commenting on something you don’t know enough about ?

SF1900 · « **Reply #144 on:** May 15, 2019, 08:58:04 AM »

Quote from: Bevo on May 14, 2019, 06:59:39 PM

Can coach share the names of these competitors? He can IM all of us if he doesn’t want it to be known

Coach, you are so quick to ask us who these competitors are but you do the same thing, who’s this NY pro and other nationals competitors who take less you are referring too?

Coach doesn't realize that I didn't say he knew everyone was on steroids, but just his friends.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #145 on:** May 15, 2019, 09:03:32 AM »

Quote from: SF1900 on May 15, 2019, 08:58:04 AM

Coach doesn't realize that I didn't say he knew everyone was on steroids, but just his friends.

What you don’t realize is that you like to put words in my mouth. You’re a buck fifty soak and wet yet you’re commenting on things you don’t know enough about.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #146 on:** May 15, 2019, 09:06:28 AM »

Quote from: SF1900 on May 15, 2019, 08:58:04 AM

Coach doesn't realize that I didn't say he knew everyone was on steroids, but just his friends.

Btw, you’re the #1 culprit on here who thinks they know without knowing.

SF1900 · « **Reply #147 on:** May 15, 2019, 09:09:43 AM »

Coach, while I agree with stuff you say about training and diet, I think you're wrong on other things and are being dishonest with yourself.

I think you are wrong when you place diet and training on the same level of drugs in terms of importance.

G_Thang · « **Reply #148 on:** May 15, 2019, 09:11:00 AM »

Quote from: tres_taco_combo on May 14, 2019, 07:37:49 PM

shawn ray's take on the whole deal

Like I haven't made multiple posts stating Rhoden and McMillan are two of the laziest and inconsistent pros.

SF1900 · « **Reply #149 on:** May 15, 2019, 09:11:09 AM »

Quote from: Coach is Back! on May 15, 2019, 09:06:28 AM

Btw, you’re the #1 culprit on here who thinks they know without knowing.

Why wouldn't I know?

I've been training for years, got ready for a show, and have trained with NPC competitors.

After all that, how can you imply that I know absolutely nothing about bodybuilding, diet and training? For a natural, I have decent size without doing any drugs. Clearly, I know something about training and diet.