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Re: "Peak week" begins Saturday
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2019, 01:11:22 PM »
Good post and looking ripped and full in the posted pics.
I wish more bodybuilders would read your contest prep and refrain from risky diuretics like Lasix.
You're either ripped or you need to lose more fat.
Holding water = too fat.
I think Piana made a good point in one of his videos about carbing up, he talked about how stupid it is to continue to eat protein.  It just fills up your stomach.  At that point the muscle should be there so in theory just carbs for a few days up to the show kind of makes sense. He obviously talked about adding insulin as well.

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Re: "Peak week" begins Saturday
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2019, 01:37:18 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2019, 02:05:55 PM »
Last few days can be notoriously tricky. This is where the little details really add up and you have to know your body really well to get the best result. A trusted eye who will give you honest feedback is very valuable here as you will have a skewed view of yourself.

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Re: "Peak week" begins Saturday
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2019, 02:31:14 PM »
I'm just going to do what everyone else does which has nothing to do with diet or training. I'm just going to take a bunch of lasix and potassium every day until all of the water is out me...oh, I guess there is some diet involved, I'll cut all my sodium. I figure if I keep on the 5grms of steroids I should be just fine size wise come the day of the show. Sound like a plan?

Yes it does sound like a plan. Albeit, not a very healthy one with the exception of reducing your salt intake. But.....any sacrifice it takes to place in the all important bodybuilding competition, right?

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Re: "Peak week" begins Saturday
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2019, 08:40:28 AM »
Depletion Day 3 with 2 to go. Fucking LOVING the process...

Wife called this "Holy shit" mode


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Re: "Peak week" begins Saturday
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2019, 08:47:02 AM »
U look so happy.

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« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2019, 09:01:57 AM »
U look so happy.

I’m seriously happy and still eating 7x day

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« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2019, 09:17:19 AM »
Depletion Day 3 with 2 to go. Fucking LOVING the process...

Wife called this "Holy shit" mode



Coach, if you win the show, then whats next as far as competition goes?

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« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2019, 09:19:41 AM »
No ones gonna read all that shit ;D

It was for Coach you goof!
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"Water is just as misunderstood as carbs. The traditional carb and water theories have people drop their water sometimes days before the show. Nothing will flatten and smooth you out faster! You have to maintain a high water intake because your muscle tissue is around 70% water. No water, no hardness - just flat, squishy muscle tissue. The reason people typically start dropping water is because they've over-carbed so much that they're already spilling glycogen and water under the skin and think, "Oh, my gosh!! I've got to get rid of this water!!" With the carb reload as I described, you won't have that problem; you'll actually get harder and harder throughout the week.
 
REMEMBER:
Keep the water intake up and let it follow the carbs into the muscle! If you're not over-carbed, the rest of the water will be eliminated!
 
Thursday
Sodium also has to be cycled. Start with a moderate amount of sodium, up to two grams at the beginning of the week and around Thursday start dropping it slightly but don't eliminate it completely. If you do, you'll force water out of the muscle cell, you'll look flat and smooth, and you'll cramp like there's no tomorrow. You need approximately four times more sodium than potassium for your muscles to contract normally. Again, don't let the myths from the pharmaceutically dominated side of our sport lure you into doing things that aren't physiologically correct.
You don't have all those drug side-effects to combat in peaking properly. If you sodium load and/or deplete in a big way you're gambling with extreme chemical rebound effects that you can't possibly time. If you're lucky enough to stumble into a good effect, it will be short lived because you're on a pendulum swing that your body will adjust to and you'll look absolutely lousy in a very short time."
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Re: "Peak week" begins Saturday
« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2019, 09:33:02 AM »
Depletion Day 3 with 2 to go. Fucking LOVING the process...

Wife called this "Holy shit" mode


Miss those chubby cheeks.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: "Peak week" begins Saturday
« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2019, 09:34:45 AM »

It was for Coach you goof!
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"Water is just as misunderstood as carbs. The traditional carb and water theories have people drop their water sometimes days before the show. Nothing will flatten and smooth you out faster! You have to maintain a high water intake because your muscle tissue is around 70% water. No water, no hardness - just flat, squishy muscle tissue. The reason people typically start dropping water is because they've over-carbed so much that they're already spilling glycogen and water under the skin and think, "Oh, my gosh!! I've got to get rid of this water!!" With the carb reload as I described, you won't have that problem; you'll actually get harder and harder throughout the week.
 
REMEMBER:
Keep the water intake up and let it follow the carbs into the muscle! If you're not over-carbed, the rest of the water will be eliminated!
 
Thursday
Sodium also has to be cycled. Start with a moderate amount of sodium, up to two grams at the beginning of the week and around Thursday start dropping it slightly but don't eliminate it completely. If you do, you'll force water out of the muscle cell, you'll look flat and smooth, and you'll cramp like there's no tomorrow. You need approximately four times more sodium than potassium for your muscles to contract normally. Again, don't let the myths from the pharmaceutically dominated side of our sport lure you into doing things that aren't physiologically correct.
You don't have all those drug side-effects to combat in peaking properly. If you sodium load and/or deplete in a big way you're gambling with extreme chemical rebound effects that you can't possibly time. If you're lucky enough to stumble into a good effect, it will be short lived because you're on a pendulum swing that your body will adjust to and you'll look absolutely lousy in a very short time."


I did read the entire article. Great insight and he’s right

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Re: "Peak week" begins Saturday
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2019, 09:35:37 AM »

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Re: "Peak week" begins Saturday
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2019, 10:08:38 AM »
Miss those chubby cheeks.
Nothing gay there at all.
No sir-ree-blob...nothing at all.

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Re: "Peak week" begins Saturday
« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2019, 11:11:52 AM »

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« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2019, 11:15:32 AM »
Face looking lean and drawn Joe.........I bet you`re fucking ripped to the bone.

Stay on point.

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Re: "Peak week" begins Saturday
« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2019, 11:19:01 AM »
Face looking lean and drawn Joe.........I bet you`re fucking ripped to the bone.

Stay on point.
I agree, he looks like he did his homework and should be SHREDDED on stage.

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« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2019, 11:26:48 AM »
Face looking lean and drawn Joe.........I bet you`re fucking ripped to the bone.

Stay on point.

Thanks, Wes, never know who's going to show up, but I'm giving this 110%. let's see if this 56-year-old can give the kids a run for their money. Sucks thought that the Masters class is only one class at 40+. Then the Lt.hvy open  :-\

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« Reply #42 on: May 20, 2019, 02:25:42 PM »

It was for Coach you goof!
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"Water is just as misunderstood as carbs. The traditional carb and water theories have people drop their water sometimes days before the show. Nothing will flatten and smooth you out faster! You have to maintain a high water intake because your muscle tissue is around 70% water. No water, no hardness - just flat, squishy muscle tissue. The reason people typically start dropping water is because they've over-carbed so much that they're already spilling glycogen and water under the skin and think, "Oh, my gosh!! I've got to get rid of this water!!" With the carb reload as I described, you won't have that problem; you'll actually get harder and harder throughout the week.
 
REMEMBER:
Keep the water intake up and let it follow the carbs into the muscle! If you're not over-carbed, the rest of the water will be eliminated!
 
Thursday
Sodium also has to be cycled. Start with a moderate amount of sodium, up to two grams at the beginning of the week and around Thursday start dropping it slightly but don't eliminate it completely. If you do, you'll force water out of the muscle cell, you'll look flat and smooth, and you'll cramp like there's no tomorrow. You need approximately four times more sodium than potassium for your muscles to contract normally. Again, don't let the myths from the pharmaceutically dominated side of our sport lure you into doing things that aren't physiologically correct.
You don't have all those drug side-effects to combat in peaking properly. If you sodium load and/or deplete in a big way you're gambling with extreme chemical rebound effects that you can't possibly time. If you're lucky enough to stumble into a good effect, it will be short lived because you're on a pendulum swing that your body will adjust to and you'll look absolutely lousy in a very short time."

Hes not reading that shit as well
p

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Re: "Peak week" begins Saturday
« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2019, 02:28:03 PM »
Hes not reading that shit as well

I actually did

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Re: "Peak week" begins Saturday
« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2019, 02:46:32 PM »
Thanks, Wes, never know who's going to show up, but I'm giving this 110%. let's see if this 56-year-old can give the kids a run for their money. Sucks thought that the Masters class is only one class at 40+. Then the Lt.hvy open  :-\

Are there any after this contest with a 50+ class?

There is always MA Nationals.

Billy Harrison in 18 won LW and overall 50 class

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« Reply #45 on: May 20, 2019, 02:49:57 PM »
Are there any after this contest with a 50+ class?

There is always MA Nationals.

Billy Harrison in 18 won LW and overall 50 class

Yes. The Masters Nationals or the inaugural Masters USA but probably the Nationals

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Re: "Peak week" begins Saturday
« Reply #46 on: May 20, 2019, 03:42:11 PM »
Hit that post-competition rebound with some extra carbs, etc, spend a month filling out that frame, then dial back in.  8)

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« Reply #47 on: May 21, 2019, 09:18:45 AM »
Hit that post-competition rebound with some extra carbs, etc, spend a month filling out that frame, then dial back in.  8)

It'll be more like a few days but I get what you're saying.

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Re: "Peak week" begins Saturday
« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2019, 09:31:18 AM »
I'm just going to do what everyone else does which has nothing to do with diet or training. I'm just going to take a bunch of lasix and potassium every day until all of the water is out me...oh, I guess there is some diet involved, I'll cut all my sodium. I figure if I keep on the 5grms of steroids I should be just fine size wise come the day of the show. Sound like a plan?

Coach, you know I love you, so please take this question without any assumption of attack.

Lasix can severely deplete potassium, calcium, sodium and magnesium. I know you said you are taking potassium with the lasix, but it's hard to gauge what the balance truly is between how much Potassium mEq's you're putting out as a result of taking lasix versus replenishing with oral potassium supplementation (unless your getting daily metabolic panels via blood draws).

Do you worry about the effects an imbalance in Potassium can do to your heart? You can develop arrhythmias (irregular rhythms of the heart), as well as even die if you have too much or too little potassium running through your system.  Not to mention that Lasix use can also affect your sodium & magnesium levels as well, which can also wreak havoc on your body (too little magnesium + sodium can cause seizures amongst other things). Too little calcium can also affect your heart causing low heart rate.

Is this contest or the idea of getting in great physical (not physiological) shape at this stage of your life even that important or worth it?

You're a handsome young man, very successful with your businesses and have great ties to your community. Is that plastic trophy with the associated chump change that comes with it as an award worth your health/life?

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Re: "Peak week" begins Saturday
« Reply #49 on: May 21, 2019, 09:38:15 AM »
Coach, you know I love you, so please take this question without any assumption of attack.

Lasix can severely deplete potassium, calcium, sodium and magnesium. I know you said you are taking potassium with the lasix, but it's hard to gauge what the balance truly is between how much Potassium mEq's you're putting out as a result of taking lasix versus replenishing with oral potassium supplementation (unless your getting daily metabolic panels via blood draws).

Do you worry about the effects an imbalance in Potassium can do to your heart? You can develop arrhythmias (irregular rhythms of the heart), as well as even die if you have too much or too little potassium running through your system.  Not to mention that Lasix use can also affect your sodium & magnesium levels as well, which can also wreak havoc on your body (too little magnesium + sodium can cause seizures amongst other things). Too little calcium can also affect your heart causing low heart rate.

Is this contest or the idea of getting in great physical (not physiological) shape at this stage of your life even that important or worth it?

You're a handsome young man, very successful with your businesses and have great ties to your community. Is that plastic trophy with the associated chump change that comes with it as an award worth your health/life?

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Pretty sure his comment was a sarcastic one.