Shawn Rhoden: Epic Training

[Bevo]

Stop with this nonsense.

That the guy is a (top) pro has zero to do with Shawn’s workout knowledge or effort (or lack thereof).

This myth was blown out of the water decades ago.

Proof that with ELITE genetics and drug use, you can get away with a lot compared to average to below average genetics

Flex wheeler, dillett, rhoden, Phil, dexter, etc

[Coach is Back!]

Proof that with ELITE genetics and drug use, you can get away with a lot compared to average to below average genetics

Flex wheeler, dillett, rhoden, Phil, dexter, etc

I couldn't tell, were those 120's or 130's?

[che]

I know for a fact that I train harder than  Phil Heath, Shawn Rhoden , The Coach ............ etc  , but after seeing  Ronnie Coleman in a wheelchair  with major spinal issues and other problems ,can you blame them for training the way they do ? (  less injuries  and greater longevity in their careers)

[Bevo]

I couldn't tell, were those 120's or 130's?

That’s not the point though

You have naturals that can do 120’s, 130’s down here in Texas and I am sure other places as well

Guys like rhoden with their genetics can do 75’s all day and he’ll still grow, my point I am trying to make

As long as they are stimulating and being active he will grow, same with the others I’ve mentioned

Ronnie, on the other hand did all, even though he would cheat a lot on his diet lol

[Coach is Back!]

That’s not the point though

You have naturals that can do 120’s, 130’s down here in Texas and I am sure other places as well

Guys like rhoden with their genetics can do 75’s all day and he’ll still grow, my point I am trying to make

As long as they are stimulating and being active he will grow, same with the others I’ve mentioned

Ronnie, on the other hand did all, even though he would cheat a lot on his diet lol

The point is, and it's irritating as fuck, is that you have a guy that CONSTANTLY makes posts shitting on other bodybuilders, specifically Rhoden, that has admitted only wanting to train on machines because training with heavy free weight is too difficult. Now he's posting Rhodens training clip training heavy with free weight and he shits on the guy like he's actually been there. Just like with the "all drug" thing. BTW, his ROM for being that heavy wasn't too bad. Not perfect but it gets the job done as it would with anyone training that heavy, create stimulation with heavy weight and sets, you grow. No, I seriously doubt very many "naturals" are pressing as heavy as that.

[Stephano]

Nobody trains hard today.

Nobody should train hard.

Look at Ronnie Coleman and Dorian Yates today.  Utterly ruined by their injuries.  Then look at Vince Taylor.

When you train very hard, you have more to lose than to gain.  Stimulate, don't annihilate. 

[tres_taco_combo]

is shawn roden better being an underdog than the champ?

[BIG DUB]

He put more effort into coordinating his workout outfit than those reps lol 

[Bevo]

The point is, and it's irritating as fuck, is that you have a guy that CONSTANTLY makes posts shitting on other bodybuilders, specifically Rhoden, that has admitted only wanting to train on machines because training with heavy free weight is too difficult. Now he's posting Rhodens training clip training heavy with free weight and he shits on the guy like he's actually been there. Just like with the "all drug" thing. BTW, his ROM for being that heavy wasn't too bad. Not perfect but it gets the job done as it would with anyone training that heavy, create stimulation with heavy weight and sets, you grow. No, I seriously doubt very many "naturals" are pressing as heavy as that.

I wasn’t shitting on Shawn, actually praising guys like him because with their genetics they can get away a bit with things, while the majority has to do everything to a T, to get every bit of results

And yes, Phil and top guys have to do everything a long the lines prep time

Simply stating guys like dexter, I recall don’t even cut out carbs dieting at all, same with Ronnie eating black eyed peas, and French fries while dieting lol

Yes, there are naturals that can press those, guys that have been training seriously for a while, not claiming they or I look like Shawn or have low bf levels while doing it. average genetics with consistency
(I can usually go to 125 on flats and inclines, but flats I can do 10-12 reps)

Never said “lots” of naturals can do it either

[Bevo]

I know for a fact that I train harder than  Phil Heath, Shawn Rhoden , The Coach ............ etc  , but after seeing  Ronnie Coleman in a wheelchair  with major spinal issues and other problems ,can you blame them for training the way they do ? (  less injuries  and greater longevity in their careers)

It’s actually smart to train like Phil, jay, dexter, etc..

Not exciting but gets the job done for them and longevity

[Coach is Back!]

I wasn’t shitting on Shawn, actually praising guys like him because with their genetics they can get away a bit with things, while the majority has to do everything to a T, to get every bit of results

And yes, Phil and top guys have to do everything a long the lines prep time

Simply stating guys like dexter, I recall don’t even cut out carbs dieting at all, same with Ronnie eating black eyed peas, and French fries while dieting lol

Yes, there are naturals that can press those, guys that have been training seriously for a while, not claiming they or I look like Shawn or have low bf levels while doing it. average genetics with consistency
(I can usually go to 125 on flats and inclines, but flats I can do 10-12 reps)

Never said “lots” of naturals can do it either

Sorry, I wasn’t referring to you, I was referring to SF because he’s the only one that starts threads to shit on others

[G_Thang]

lazy and inconsistent - rhoden and mcmillan.

he talked all that trash about promoting the mr o unlike phil

easy win for the diva if he comes back.

 

[galain]

What’s he doing floor dumbbell presses for?Serious question,Thought that was used to break thru the top half of bench press.Might be wrong so figured I’d ask.

Maybe his shoulders are fucked?

[Powerlift66]

Weak, makes very little money (400K over many years, plus drug bill and taxes is laughable.
Phil was a bloofy joke as well, just a blown up water balloon. (At least he made decent money,and is still broke as f**k).
Many make fun of Cutler, that guy outworked shitty genetics.

[Matt]

Weak, makes very little money (400K over many years, plus drug bill and taxes is laughable.
Phil was a bloofy joke as well, just a blown up water balloon. (At least he made decent money,and is still broke as f**k).
Many make fun of Cutler, that guy outworked shitty genetics.

Cutler saved his money too. I suspect he earned a pre-tax total of $1 million to $1.5 million a year for the better part of a decade. I think that's why Kerry ultimately left him.

I'm not sure what Jay's net worth is, but he could easily be into the millions.

In early 2008, they had a thread on MD where someone guessed Dexter Jackson was worth millions. Meanwhile the very month prior in MD, he stated/published that he was broke, and was waiting to win the Arnold to get some money. 💰

A lot of bodybuilding N's have no money. A lot of pro athlete N's have no money, LOL. Including NBA and NFL N's.

[Kwon]

Weak, makes very little money (400K over many years, plus drug bill and taxes is laughable.
Phil was a bloofy joke as well, just a blown up water balloon. (At least he made decent money,and is still broke as f**k).
Many make fun of Cutler, that guy outworked shitty genetics.

Made the most of it.


Seems to be a better businessman as well.

[deadz]

Th Mr. O is serious business.

[SF1900]

How is everyone's Mr. Olympia training coming?

[Bevo]

Weak, makes very little money (400K over many years, plus drug bill and taxes is laughable.
Phil was a bloofy joke as well, just a blown up water balloon. (At least he made decent money,and is still broke as f**k).
Many make fun of Cutler, that guy outworked shitty genetics.

I wouldn’t say jay had shitty genetics, not the best but far from shitty

[Bevo]

Cutler saved his money too. I suspect he earned a pre-tax total of $1 million to $1.5 million a year for the better part of a decade. I think that's why Kerry ultimately left him.

I'm not sure what Jay's net worth is, but he could easily be into the millions.

In early 2008, they had a thread on MD where someone guessed Dexter Jackson was worth millions. Meanwhile the very month prior in MD, he stated/published that he was broke, and was waiting to win the Arnold to get some money. 💰

A lot of bodybuilding N's have no money. A lot of pro athlete N's have no money, LOL. Including NBA and NFL N's.

Dexter is far from struggling as of now, maybe he was back in 08 but after that he was on a roll with everything

[Bevo]

How is everyone's Mr. Olympia training coming?

Starting my prep in July like Levrone does

Grow into the show babbbbbbyy

[hipolito mejia]

The difference between a mr.O and a miss Universe ( beauty pageant). Is that the beauty queen does not depends on chemicals as much as the bodybuilder. Hell She might even diet harder and go through a lot of stress  .....

But No talent whatsoever.   

[old-school-lifter]

is RHoden stoned 90 % of the time? he always looks stoned