Two weeks post contest

[Joe Valentino]

Agreed.  I'm going to assume and give him the benefit of the doubt in so far as doses and protocols are concerned as well.

Yep. Im a lot younger and looking like shit.

Kind of depressed, but you know when you reach 40 and wanna try other things in life.

Im really thinking about having a DMT experience somewhere later on the year. 

Big shout out to those who are still having fun pushing weights, cause Im not

[AbrahamG]

Yep. Im a lot younger and looking like shit.

Kind of depressed, but you know when you reach 40 and wanna try other things in life.

Im really thinking about having a DMT experience somewhere later on the year. 

Big shout out to those who are still having fun pushing weights, cause Im not

I still love it and am addicted to it.  I've been doing keto now for going on ten weeks with pig out Sundays.  I haven't missed a workout since I started.  Today was my 64th consecutive day of not missing a workout or cardio session.  My bodyweight has remained the exact same as has my trt protocol.  However, I've knocked inches off my waist and recouped some muscle.  My BP and bloodwork have both improved as well.  The key for me is not to fall off the wagon this winter.  Which seems to happen at some point every year.  This past winter was particularly an exercise in gluttony.  A perfect week for me is keto and training Monday-Saturday culminating with fucking the shit out of my wife Saturday night.  Sunday would be an outing by myself with some edibles and a drink or two.

[Joe Valentino]

I still love it and am addicted to it.  I've been doing keto now for going on ten weeks with pig out Sundays.  I haven't missed a workout since I started.  Today was my 64th consecutive day of not missing a workout or cardio session.  My bodyweight has remained the exact same as has my trt protocol.  However, I've knocked inches off my waist and recouped some muscle.  My BP and bloodwork have both improved as well.  The key for me is not to fall off the wagon this winter.  Which seems to happen at some point every year.  This past winter was particularly an exercise in gluttony.  A perfect week for me is keto and training Monday-Saturday culminating with fucking the shit out of my wife Saturday night.  Sunday would be an outing by myself with some edibles and a drink or two.

Woooow. Very regimented now, Man.  I dont have the balls to do Keto. Lool

Im lucky. I have a good treadmill. L.A. is good, very clean and great equipment. 

Dont tell me about drinks!!   You have to have a few to survive in this crazy World 

Cool, Man, looks a great week plan. Show us the results later in here. I haven't had Abs in 20 years, but wont give up yet lol

[Primemuscle]

I don’t even know where to begin with this ridiculous assumption of a “yo yo” diet. You do realize this is bodybuilding and not some fat soccer mom trying every “diet” imaginable to lose weight...right? But for the sake of argument I dieted consistently on pretty much the same calorie and macro range for the entire 17 weeks until the last week of depletion. Btw, unless I die, I’m doing the Nationals this time NEXT YEAR and it will take almost a full year to gain that 15.

Please do some research

There's no need for research. You are taking what I wrote too literally. Yes, this is bodybuilding....frequent ly gaining and losing weight can be hard on your body no matter how healthfully and carefully you eat. That you are taking your time to accomplish the weight gain, is a major plus. I predict you won't die before competing in the nationals next year. -Best of luck.

[Primemuscle]

Send him a dick pic.

Okay, but it must be his dick and not some stranger's. 

[Bevo]

I still love it and am addicted to it.  I've been doing keto now for going on ten weeks with pig out Sundays.  I haven't missed a workout since I started.  Today was my 64th consecutive day of not missing a workout or cardio session.  My bodyweight has remained the exact same as has my trt protocol.  However, I've knocked inches off my waist and recouped some muscle.  My BP and bloodwork have both improved as well.  The key for me is not to fall off the wagon this winter.  Which seems to happen at some point every year.  This past winter was particularly an exercise in gluttony.  A perfect week for me is keto and training Monday-Saturday culminating withfucking the shit out of my wife Saturday night.  Sunday would be an outing by myself with some edibles and a drink or two.

Exactly 31 minutes?

[AbrahamG]

Exactly 31 minutes?

Typically in the 30-45 minute range if you count all of the follies.  But, thank you for paying attention.

[Slik]

Your last name is Marino? Not related to SoCal bass pro Pete Marino are you?

[Fallsview]

....off-season started on Monday

Why is that guy laughing at you in the back? Looking Great.



STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The RedMeatKid]

What happens after a contest? Do you taper off the drugs or just quit?  Do you use stuff like clomid, anti estogens and HCG after the contest?  Do you shoot straight testosterone after to keep from losing the muscle?  Not up on this stuff.

 Just remember back in the day around contest time guys would make drastic changes in two to three months but seem to lose it just as fast when they went completely clean. The protocol back then was to completely stop using soon after the contest so hopefully their own testosterone would eventually kick back in and it would make you more responsive next time you took drugs. Guys that took drugs on and off year round seem to lost their response to the drugs so it was common for guys to go completely off for many months. I remember most just geared up for one contest a year.

Well in the old days you had Arnold and Franco who only took 'roids for a few weeks leading up to the contests. Otherwise they relied upon wholesome foods and hard training to build that muscle, along with perhaps some protein shakes. These guys today are taking serious serious drugs the year round. Funny thing is, none of these steroid addicts of today could carry Arnold or Franco's gym bag.

[Coach is Back!]

Well in the old days you had Arnold and Franco who only took 'roids for a few weeks leading up to the contests. Otherwise they relied upon wholesome foods and hard training to build that muscle, along with perhaps some protein shakes. These guys today are taking serious serious drugs the year round. Funny thing is, none of these steroid addicts of today could carry Arnold or Franco's gym bag.

Oh great, here we go again, another “expert”.  Fun fact. Arnold was on a shit ton back then because he actually “grew” into his prep. Like 190 to 240 inside of 9 weeks. Yes, I witnessed it when he was training for the 80’ Olympia and don’t think for one second the others weren’t right up there. Let me also add that everything back then was real.

As for me, I’m off 7mos out of the year and when I’m on, don’t believe more is better and you get better, longer lasting results using lower doses for longer periods of time which is why I’ve never had a steroid related problem of any kind in the 35 + years I’ve been using them.

[AbrahamG]

Oh great, here we go again, another “expert”.  Fun fact. Arnold was on a shit ton back then because he actually “grew” into his prep. Like 190 to 240 inside of 9 weeks. Yes, I witnessed it when he was training for the 80’ Olympia and done think for one second the others weren’t right up there. Let me also add that everything back then was real.

As for me, I’m off 7mos out of the year and when I’m on, don’t believe more is better and you get better, longer lasting results using lower doses for longer periods of time which is why I’ve never had a steroid related problem of any kind in the 35 + years I’ve been using them.

Serious question here.  When you say off for 7 months do you mean no TRT dose as in nothing, cold turkey?  Or do you take TRT and not consider it being "on".  Not being a wise ass, genuine question.

[Coach is Back!]

Serious question here.  When you say off for 7 months do you mean no TRT dose as in nothing, cold turkey?  Or do you take TRT and not consider it being "on".  Not being a wise ass, genuine question.

I’ll taper off then PCT for 4 weeks. Although I will say since I need to add some muscle for next year I’ll be on longer but still low dose (for bodybuilding)

[AbrahamG]

I’ll taper off then PCT for 4 weeks. Although I will say since I need to add some muscle for next year I’ll be on longer but still low dose (for bodybuilding)

If you don't mind me asking, what is you pct protocol?

[Coach is Back!]

If you don't mind me asking, what is you pct protocol?

2 weeks clomid, 2 weeks HCG.

[AbrahamG]

2 weeks clomid, 2 weeks HCG.

Hcg first then clomid, right?

[The RedMeatKid]

Oh great, here we go again, another “expert”.  Fun fact. Arnold was on a shit ton back then because he actually “grew” into his prep. Like 190 to 240 inside of 9 weeks. Yes, I witnessed it when he was training for the 80’ Olympia and don’t think for one second the others weren’t right up there. Let me also add that everything back then was real.

As for me, I’m off 7mos out of the year and when I’m on, don’t believe more is better and you get better, longer lasting results using lower doses for longer periods of time which is why I’ve never had a steroid related problem of any kind in the 35 + years I’ve been using them.

You "witnessed" Arnold's day to day activities? Are you sure?

[Coach is Back!]

You "witnessed" Arnold's day to day activities? Are you sure?

Am I sure I saw Arnold train for the Olympia? Mmm, yeah you don’t forget something like that 

[The RedMeatKid]

Am I sure I saw Arnold train for the Olympia? Mmm, yeah you don’t forget something like that 

That's not what you were asked.

[Coach is Back!]

That's not what you were asked.

Then maybe you should ask again

[SF1900]

Then maybe you should ask again

Day to day activities include more than just training for X amount of time.

He’s asking if you saw his day to day activities, which include his daily routine of eating, sleeping, drug use, etc. His question was phrased just fine the first time.

[Coach is Back!]

Day to day activities include more than just training for X amount of time.

He’s asking if you saw his day to day activities, which include his daily routine of eating, sleeping, drug use, etc. His question was phrased just fine the first time.

He shouldn’t ask stupid questions

[SF1900]

He shouldn’t ask stupid questions

I’m just interpreting the meaning of his question.

And, of course, it’s impossible to know what most others do in their day to say activity.

[funk51]

Almost a 30-year difference between the two of us. I think he was around 28. 4th vs. 2nd

                          looking good. the other guy got you in legs that's about it though. coach for the win.

[illuminati]

Almost a 30-year difference between the two of us. I think he was around 28. 4th vs. 2nd

Looking very good
It’s a close call in that pic

Well Done.