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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2019, 07:28:23 AM »
Black women need no Affirmative Action for fat, impotent ex-husbands.
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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2019, 07:30:19 AM »
I remember everybody blaming Weider because bodybuilders made no money. Now he’s dead and bodybuilders still make no money. It was never Weider. It’s Bodybuilding.

               just think what they would be making if Vince McMahon didn't start the wbf and force weider to up his prize money.
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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2019, 07:31:30 AM »
What exactly is affirmative action for bodybuilders? White bodybuilders giving up some of their g4p gigs to
Black ones?


I would like to see it something like the op proposed. African American bodybuilders get an additional subtraction in points (i think the lowest score wins in bodybuilding) to make it fully fair to all involved.

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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2019, 07:45:23 AM »

Really???  Bodybuilding is no different than any sport...the champs are mostly black but the people running the events making money are whites, the supplement company owners are white, and last time I checked, Jim Manion was white...

Great white hope my ass. 

Vince gets it, I just wish he could put it more eloquently. White males who compete are the only ones that would have a problem with this. Why? Because of course the problem isn't theirs. They still think they can reach the top unlike black bodybuilders.
If you do have a problem with this then you may be a racist. As a professional I believe this topic is very good and opens dialogue between people. But again, you'll have people attacking race diverting attention away from the problem.
As always I will quote Steve Brisbois during a MuscleMag International interview after Momo's death: "If you aren't part of the solution, you're part of the problem.




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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2019, 07:51:06 AM »
Looks like Getbig has a new gimmick account.

Strange how some of these writing styles seem so familiar...

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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2019, 08:00:58 AM »

Really???  Bodybuilding is no different than any sport...the champs are mostly black but the people running the events making money are whites, the supplement company owners are white, and last time I checked, Jim Manion was white...

Great white hope my ass. 

Last I checked blacks are free to start their own organizations and supplement companies..


oh right.... they'd rather sing welfare carols... "its the first of the month"..... "I wish you a merry welfare.. and a happy food stamp"

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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2019, 08:22:09 AM »
               just think what they would be making if Vince McMahon didn't start the wbf and force weider to up his prize money.

Good point. If bodybuilders had been so underpaid, then the door was open for a businessman to start another Federation and pay them what they’re worth. Vince attempted to do that and it failed. So, they really weren’t underpaid.

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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2019, 10:04:31 AM »
But merit is inherently unfair because it favors people who were born with advantages...
Are you a female or just a male with no balls?

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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2019, 10:48:16 AM »
Are you a female or just a male with no balls?
Why is this posed as either/or? I am a male, and I have balls. You didn't give that option.

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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2019, 10:54:33 AM »
Will all the blacks who have dominated this and other sports for decades pay reparations to us whites for our low placings?

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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2019, 10:58:12 AM »
Will all the blacks who have dominated this and other sports for decades pay reparations to us whites for our low placings?

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That's not funny. Making light of something as serious as slavery is very disrespectful toward a whole horde of people who did nothing to deserve their fate. It's almost as bad as joking about the holocaust.

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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2019, 11:01:13 AM »
Goodmorrow,

I was talking to two African American State Police officers in the gym this morning and they brought up Pro Bodybuilding. They said in the 1970's Blacks suffered greatly in the sport due to racism. Both said that today its still happening even though more blacks are winning, they are not making the money that white bodybuilders make.

They stated that blacks should get an automatic 10 to 15 points per contest and be guaranteed  two long term contracts with a major supplement company.  The supplement company would receive an adequate tax break.

So, what say you?




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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2019, 11:27:14 AM »
Harold Poole would enter then prestige's AAU Mr. America. He would mop the floor with the others physique wise but Hoffman wouldn't give it to him. Harold was black.  They would make up an excuse that he had a stutter speech problem and that he couldn't represent the title because of that. The real reason was that he was black.

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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2019, 02:19:00 PM »
Harold Poole would enter then prestige's AAU Mr. America. He would mop the floor with the others physique wise but Hoffman wouldn't give it to him. Harold was black.  They would make up an excuse that he had a stutter speech problem and that he couldn't represent the title because of that. The real reason was that he was black.
Yup,Bob was a srious racist.
Look what he did with Bob Gajdas win over Sergio as just one example of many.

Ken Covington comes to mind also........always ready,only to plae badly.

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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2019, 02:32:38 PM »
Yup,Bob was a srious racist.
Look what he did with Bob Gajdas win over Sergio as just one example of many.

Ken Covington comes to mind also........always ready,only to plae badly.

Was it that he hated blacks or that he thought a white guy would sell more fart powder to a predominantly white audience?

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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #40 on: June 22, 2019, 02:35:08 PM »
That's not funny. Making light of something as serious as slavery is very disrespectful toward a whole horde of people who did nothing to deserve their fate. It's almost as bad as joking about the holocaust.

Simmer down tough guy.

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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #41 on: June 22, 2019, 02:52:09 PM »
That's not funny. Making light of something as serious as slavery is very disrespectful toward a whole horde of people who did nothing to deserve their fate. It's almost as bad as joking about the holocaust.

Jewish communists killed 20-40 million white, Christian Russians.  The holohoax is a number far below 6 million.  Anywhere from 250,000 Maybe up to a million or 2 million in their wildest dreams.  Bolshevik Jews slaughtered at least 10x more people.  Probably more like 20-40x more.

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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2019, 03:23:32 PM »
Was it that he hated blacks or that he thought a white guy would sell more fart powder to a predominantly white audience?

Latter. Hoffman was a business man, he knew a black champ wouldn't sell, especially to the southern audience, who already complained that blacks were featured in the magazine. I seem to remember there were people involved with York Barbell that discussed it with him, and he felt bad about it, but business is business.

Hoffman seems to be a "Whiteman's Burden" type of fellow. I don't believe he thought blacks were up to white people's intellectual standards, but he didn't actively hate them. I haven't seen many Black lifters that were directly involved with Hoffman say anything too negative either.

Harry Paschall who worked for Hoffman was a pretty notorious anti-semite / racist though.

If anyone wants to read it, here's a scholarly paper done on the Mr. America contest, and the race problem it had for many years -


https://www.starkcenter.org/igh/igh-v8/igh-v8-n1/igh0801c.pdf .

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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #43 on: June 22, 2019, 08:22:03 PM »
Jewish communists killed 20-40 million white, Christian Russians.  The holohoax is a number far below 6 million.  Anywhere from 250,000 Maybe up to a million or 2 million in their wildest dreams.  Bolshevik Jews slaughtered at least 10x more people.  Probably more like 20-40x more.
"Judeo-Bolshevhism" is a misnomer. Sure there where many prominent jews playing a key part in establishing communist societies, heck even Marx himself was Jewish. They tend to err on the side of the abstract and ideas i.e. not within the hands of work but rather overseeing the goyim. So communism is a natural extension of the chosen people over goyim paradigm. A ruling class with grounding in the theological. It didn't pan out this way. In fact Jews where subject to all sorts of horrific persecution across Europe not limited to Germany but even in Poland and Russia itself. The backdrop of the Great Depression and the reputation of the Jew with usury and positions in finance left many an angry worker with resentment for the scapegoat, the Jew, in turn the governments wanted expulsion of Jews, to please the people. What a shame this tendency to paint all with the same brush, as many variations exist within groups despite, at large, anti-sociality and in group preferences displayed. To highlight how incorrect the notion of Jewish communists is, as early in this disastrous period - July 1920, a representative of Soviet power in Berlin gave a speech to the effect that Jews opposed their revolution, mostly bourgeois and where to have no future within the soviet territory, only to be destroyed. In any case, many modern day prominent Jews involved in the abstract have heavily pushed for individual freedoms and defense of the minority.

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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #44 on: June 22, 2019, 09:04:16 PM »
Any species that requires governments help to prosper is suppose to parish and become extinct. It's called evolution.
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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2019, 09:51:11 PM »
Blacks have been dominating bodybuilding lately, we are in need of a great white hope.

We were given one. His name was Gunter.


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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #46 on: June 22, 2019, 10:40:39 PM »
"Judeo-Bolshevhism" is a misnomer. Sure there where many prominent jews playing a key part in establishing communist societies, heck even Marx himself was Jewish. They tend to err on the side of the abstract and ideas i.e. not within the hands of work but rather overseeing the goyim. So communism is a natural extension of the chosen people over goyim paradigm. A ruling class with grounding in the theological. It didn't pan out this way. In fact Jews where subject to all sorts of horrific persecution across Europe not limited to Germany but even in Poland and Russia itself. The backdrop of the Great Depression and the reputation of the Jew with usury and positions in finance left many an angry worker with resentment for the scapegoat, the Jew, in turn the governments wanted expulsion of Jews, to please the people. What a shame this tendency to paint all with the same brush, as many variations exist within groups despite, at large, anti-sociality and in group preferences displayed. To highlight how incorrect the notion of Jewish communists is, as early in this disastrous period - July 1920, a representative of Soviet power in Berlin gave a speech to the effect that Jews opposed their revolution, mostly bourgeois and where to have no future within the soviet territory, only to be destroyed. In any case, many modern day prominent Jews involved in the abstract have heavily pushed for individual freedoms and defense of the minority.

The Red Cross claimed only 200,000 Jews died in camps.  The Jews claimed 6 million, then researchers studied everything and forced them to lower the number by literally Millions but they still try to claim the official number is 6 million.  

Of the people that died, most of them died from things like starvation after the allies bombed the supply lines.  The US put Japanese in camps, and if the US started losing WW2, those Japanese would have died of starvation too.  The undisputed #1 WW2 researcher in the entire world. David Irving says gas chambers did not even exist.  There are three separate parties who were incentivized to lie about WW2, global Jewry, the US govt, and the USSR.  It's completely impossible the official narrative is the real one with so many people incentivized to lie.

The Germans also gave the Jews plenty of time to leave, but they refused to leave.  They attempted to take over and undermine their host nation - just like they do in every single nation they enter, which is why they're always kicked out 200+ times now - and the Germans did not like that.  They're an evil cult whose religious doctrine is anti-everyone except themselves.  It's just like Islam.  Islam states that it's encouraged to lie to non-muslims to advance the muslim cause and okay to kill non-believers and all that bullshit.  Talmudic Judaism is virtually identical.  Let's not even get into the fact the Jewish run bolshevik revolution in Russia killed 20-40 million white Christians. Russians are the real victims of WW2, not the lying Jews.

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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #47 on: June 22, 2019, 10:59:18 PM »
The Red Cross claimed only 200,000 Jews died in camps.  The Jews claimed 6 million, then researchers studied everything and forced them to lower the number by literally Millions but they still try to claim the official number is 6 million.  

Of the people that died, most of them died from things like starvation after the allies bombed the supply lines.  The US put Japanese in camps, and if the US started losing WW2, those Japanese would have died of starvation too.  The undisputed #1 WW2 researcher in the entire world. David Irving says gas chambers did not even exist.  There are three separate parties who were incentivized to lie about WW2, global Jewry, the US govt, and the USSR.  It's completely impossible the official narrative is the real one with so many people incentivized to lie.

The Germans also gave the Jews plenty of time to leave, but they refused to leave. They attempted to take over and undermine their host nation - just like they do in every single nation they enter, which is why they're always kicked out 200+ times now - and the Germans did not like that.  They're an evil cult whose religious doctrine is anti-everyone except themselves.  It's just like Islam.  Islam states that it's encouraged to lie to non-muslims to advance the muslim cause and okay to kill non-believers and all that bullshit.  Talmudic Judaism is virtually identical.  Let's not even get into the fact the Jewish run bolshevik revolution in Russia killed 20-40 million white Christians. Russians are the real victims of WW2, not the lying Jews.
Good points.

Didn't help that Madagascar fell to the wayside and the British where stubborn on Palestine at the time.

Of course "Judea declares war on Germany 1933" through attempting economic sanctions, made their people an enemy to contend with. The sneaky notion of warfare via economic sanction, somewhat new at the time(prior to establishment of UN and strong international law) led to disastrous repercussions. I don't believe that Germany where not killing Jews, at large, in the concentration camps towards the end of the war, particularly in what they considered the "stateless" Poland. People like Bormann, Hitler's secretary foresaw the loss of war, early on, and I think they instilled a vicious anti-semitism in their comrades that was able to conduct regular occurances of mass murder, particularly as spite towards their arch-enemy in the years towards the end of WW2. If you look at Hitler's last words he truly saw the allies acting as agents of international jewry and he was vicious towards them. Reflect on the notion of "Judea declaring war on Germany" 1933. That creates an internal enemy to deal with. What a pity there where some prominent Jews who took that step towards collectivizing their diaspora in such a negative fashion, solidifying a retaliatory ad jus bellum for concentrating Jews, in turn, leading to their destruction.

Yes, there was a largely Jewish communist plot which attempted to overthrow the government prior to Nazi leadership in Germany. Not often spoken of.

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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #48 on: June 22, 2019, 11:52:03 PM »

Really???  Bodybuilding is no different than any sport...the champs are mostly black but the people running the events making money are whites, the supplement company owners are white, and last time I checked, Jim Manion was white...

Great white hope my ass. 
We have a free market everone including blacks could start a business. Problem is they suck at it.

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Re: Should Bodybuilding Have Affirmative Action For Blacks?
« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2019, 02:54:00 AM »
Jewish communists killed 20-40 million white, Christian Russians.  The holohoax is a number far below 6 million.  Anywhere from 250,000 Maybe up to a million or 2 million in their wildest dreams.  Bolshevik Jews slaughtered at least 10x more people.  Probably more like 20-40x more.
I cannot believe how you can spout such vile anti semitism.