Author Topic: The "Nation of Immigrants" myth (Read 6295 times)

BBSSchlemiel · « **on:** July 12, 2019, 07:48:08 PM »

Thirteen percent of the US population is foreign born.

Twenty-eight and a half percent of Australians is foreign born.

Nineteen percent of Canada is foreign born.

The majority of all these countries are native born! Hence none are "nations of immigrants"!

And the people who settled these countries weren't immigrants either. How? Well, in order for people to be immigrants, there needs to be countries to where they go. America wasn't in existence until people settled it. The founders simply went to a land mass with no existing nation. They made one.

io · « **Reply #1 on:** July 12, 2019, 08:02:27 PM »

So anyone who arrived after the first settlers were immigrants, by your definition. There are no existing bloodlines that were unmixed since the first settlers arrived. Therefore, we are a nation of immigrants.

God you nazi scum are dumb as hell.

che · « **Reply #2 on:** July 12, 2019, 08:08:30 PM »

Quote from: BBSSchlemiel on July 12, 2019, 07:48:08 PM

Thirteen percent of the US population is foreign born.

Twenty-eight and a half percent of Australians is foreign born.

Nineteen percent of Canada is foreign born.

The majority of all these countries are native born! Hence none are "nations of immigrants"!

And the people who settled these countries weren't immigrants either. How? Well, in order for people to be immigrants, there needs to be countries to where they go. America wasn't in existence until people settled it. The founders simply went to a land mass with no existing nation. They made one.

Dumbest post ever

BBSSchlemiel · « **Reply #3 on:** July 12, 2019, 08:08:34 PM »

Quote from: io on July 12, 2019, 08:02:27 PM

So anyone who arrived after the first settlers were immigrants, by your definition. There are no existing bloodlines that were unmixed since the first settlers arrived. Therefore, we are a nation of immigrants.

God you nazi scum are dumb as hell.

Eighty seven percent of Americans are native born. Therefore America isn’t a nation of immigrants.

Matt · « **Reply #4 on:** July 12, 2019, 09:20:20 PM »

Even if anyone subscribes to the nation of immigrants bullshit, the USA was at its strongest - something like 25% of the world GDP when it was 90% White.

Diversity lovers can suck a dick.

AbrahamG · « **Reply #5 on:** July 12, 2019, 10:02:04 PM »

Quote from: che on July 12, 2019, 08:08:30 PM

Dumbest post ever

That's a bold statement.

io · « **Reply #6 on:** July 12, 2019, 11:22:43 PM »

Quote from: BBSSchlemiel on July 12, 2019, 08:08:34 PM

Eighty seven percent of Americans are native born. Therefore America isn’t a nation of immigrants.

The phrase “nation of immigrants” doesn’t literally mean “every person here was born elsewhere”, it means ”we are all descendants of immigrants”. Which we are.

Taffin · « **Reply #7 on:** July 12, 2019, 11:48:10 PM »

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BBSSchlemiel · « **Reply #8 on:** July 13, 2019, 01:49:18 AM »

Quote from: io on July 12, 2019, 08:02:27 PM

So anyone who arrived after the first settlers were immigrants, by your definition. There are no existing bloodlines that were unmixed since the first settlers arrived. Therefore, we are a nation of immigrants.

God you nazi scum are dumb as hell.

It’s 2019 and I live in America. The Nazi party of Germany ended in 1945.

Powerlift66 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 13, 2019, 01:52:53 AM »

Quote from: Matt on July 12, 2019, 09:20:20 PM

Even if anyone subscribes to the nation of immigrants bullshit, the USA was at its strongest - something like 25% of the world GDP when it was 90% White.

Diversity lovers can suck a dick.

This ^^

BBSSchlemiel · « **Reply #10 on:** July 13, 2019, 01:53:59 AM »

Quote from: Randomum on July 12, 2019, 10:10:50 PM

Agree to disagree. Up to some level immigration is good, and helped the advancement of Civilization in America, Canada, and Australia but after it gets to a certain point it wreaks havoc on the political, and economic systems. A two party system isn't meant to handle multiple ethnic groups (see South America, the Middle East and Africa for examples). Also once groups become large enough the distribution of wealth through leftist tax reform becomes a huge point of contention which can eventually lead to violence or succession.

If immigration is too rapid from a particular group, who does not have a large barrier to entry it also causes damage. Like a massive exodus of Central/South Americans from their countries to America. The less educated, less ethical people are coming in droves as opposed to an East Indian, or Asian who has a large barrier to entry (flight to America is 1k +, and if they are coming as a family it will be 1k+ * number of family members which means that these immigrants either come from a more prosperous segment of their country's population, or have a tremendous work ethic to save up that amount of money in countries that pay them meager wages).

The proper solution is an immigration system similar to Australia where it is controlled and based on the need of the country, not the need of the immigrant.

That’s true. But we also don’t need “hard working” immigrants either.

Kwon · « **Reply #11 on:** July 13, 2019, 02:09:24 AM »

SuperTed · « **Reply #12 on:** July 13, 2019, 02:13:53 AM »

It's just a phase used to justify large scale immigration and demographic changes to a nation.
In the UK, you'll also often hear 'England has always been a nation of immigrants' used in more liberal circles so it's not just an American thing either.

Darren Avey · « **Reply #13 on:** July 13, 2019, 02:24:41 AM »

Quote from: io on July 12, 2019, 08:02:27 PM

So anyone who arrived after the first settlers were immigrants, by your definition. There are no existing bloodlines that were unmixed since the first settlers arrived. Therefore, we are a nation of immigrants.

God you nazi scum are dumb as hell.

Everyone's a Nazi according to you lefty twats

Kwon · « **Reply #14 on:** July 13, 2019, 02:31:22 AM »

Quote from: Darren Avey on July 13, 2019, 02:24:41 AM

Everyone's a Nazi according to you lefty twats

Everyone who disagrees with with them is Hitler according to their logic.

Desolate · « **Reply #15 on:** July 13, 2019, 02:44:08 AM »

Hitler baby says...

"Get the fuck out of The United States and go back to your third world shitholes."

THE END.

Kwon · « **Reply #16 on:** July 13, 2019, 10:05:34 AM »

Straw Man · « **Reply #17 on:** July 13, 2019, 02:55:49 PM »

Both my grandfather's were born in Italy and I suspect most people on this board only have to go back a few generations as well to say the same thing. Same goes for Trumptard.

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/ronald-reagans-final-presidential-speech-was-for-immigrants

IRON CROSS · « **Reply #18 on:** July 13, 2019, 03:08:07 PM »

Quote from: Darren Avey on July 13, 2019, 02:24:41 AM

Everyone's a Nazi according to you lefty twats

Unmask Antifa , like in Australia

& they go soft cock

BBSSchlemiel · « **Reply #19 on:** July 13, 2019, 03:55:06 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on July 13, 2019, 02:55:49 PM

Both my grandfather's were born in Italy and I suspect most people on this board only have to go back a few generations as well to say the same thing. Same goes for Trumptard.

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/ronald-reagans-final-presidential-speech-was-for-immigrants

So your relatives were immigrants. You aren’t one.

IRON CROSS · « **Reply #20 on:** July 13, 2019, 04:54:49 PM »

Quote from: Desolate on July 13, 2019, 02:44:08 AM

Hitler baby says...

Adolf & Eva have 2 girls

Straw Man · « **Reply #21 on:** July 13, 2019, 05:08:38 PM »

Quote from: BBSSchlemiel on July 13, 2019, 03:55:06 PM

So your relatives were immigrants. You aren’t one.

no shit

the point is that most of us in this country are only here because our ancestors emigrated here in the not too distant past

hence "Nation of Immigrants"

I assume you must be a Native American?

oldtimer1 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 13, 2019, 05:18:11 PM »

We are not a nation of immigrants. We are a nation of citizens under one flag.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #23 on:** July 13, 2019, 06:00:13 PM »

Quote from: che on July 12, 2019, 08:08:30 PM

Dumbest post ever

I beg to differ

The Scott · « **Reply #24 on:** July 13, 2019, 06:12:29 PM »

Quote from: oldtimer1 on July 13, 2019, 05:18:11 PM

We are not a nation of immigrants. We are a nation of citizens under one flag.

Agreed, my friend!