Good work. He has 25 lbs or so to lose which puts him in the 170's. Definitely natty territory. As a natural very easy to get on the juice comments when a higher body fat (teens). But when you end up 170's, you are a natural.I go from almost 18 inch arms around 200 to 16 inch pythons at 175, and usually get down to 170. No one thinks I'm on the sauce at 170 but at 200 most do.