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« Reply #1000 on: July 24, 2020, 02:31:55 PM »
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« Reply #1001 on: July 25, 2020, 12:48:47 PM »
Did Trump and Epstein Rape Two Underage Girls?
 July 10, 2019 John Ray
Did Trump and Epstein Rape Two Underage Girls?
Before we address the question, Did Trump and Epstein Rape Two Underage Girls” we will first discuss Attorney General Bob Barr’s highly unusual decision to un-recuse himself from the Epstein case and actually take direct control over the case, despite have previously announced he was conflicted from having anything to do with the matter.



 

Why did Barr Un-Recuse?
Mass Tort Nexus researcher, Mark York, discovered a civil lawsuit filed in 2016 by Katie Johnson (now an adult), she accuses Trump and Epstein of committing multiple acts of sexual violence against herself (13 at the time) as well as a 12-year-old. (see excerpts below or download the complaint at:

Donald Trump – Jeffrey Epstein Federal Complaint (USDC California 2016) Re: Minor Sex Abuse

Given Epstein’s history of secretly taping famous people taking sexual advantage of young women procured by Epstein, if the allegations in the Johnson complaint are true, Trump has every reason to be concerned that tapes might exist which would prove Johnson’s allegations.

Would Bob Barr Obstruct Justice to protect Trump?
Evidence to date would suggest that Bob Barr is more than willing to pervert our justice system and even defy elected officials to protect his boss.

Would Trump ask Barr to Un-Recuse Himself?
The Presidents history (in his own words) related to Jeff Session’s recusal from the Russia Probe and subsequent refusal to un-recuse himself provide strong evidence that the President would ask an attorney general to un-recuse himself despite any previously addressed conflicts.



Why would Trump want his loyal Protector in Chief (Barr) in charge of the Epstein matter?
The remainder of this article will provide information on which the reader can draw their own conclusions as to why Trump may need Barr to interfere in the Epstein Case.

White House Initial Reactions to Epstein Indictment
Kellyanne Conway took the airways shortly after the new Epstein indictment was announced claiming that the president had not talked to nor seen Epstein in 10 to 15 years. If this claim was intended give the impression that the President and his hold friend had not cross paths in over a decade, the Lawsuit filed by Katie Johnson against Trump and Epstein in 2016 (co-defendants) accusing the pair of committing multiple acts of sexual violence against Johnson (then 13) and another girl (12 at the time) makes the statements made by Kellyanne Conway highly questionable. (see excerpts from complaint below)



 



Also See:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/09/trump-jeffrey-epstein-kellyanne-conway-1402997

NOT FAKE NEW’s
After reading the excepts provided below from the Johnson complaint, you decide is Trump may need someone (Barr) to run interference on his behalf before the Epstein matter spills over and creates yet another potential reason Trump may have to be concerned about his future, not just as President but also as total loss of his choice of clothing (being restricted to a single orange jumpsuit).

 



Excerpts from Complaint:

FACTUAL ALLEGATIONS

The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, alleges that the Defendants, Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, did willfully and with extreme malice violate her Civil Rights under 18 U.S.C. ; 2241 by sexually and physically abusing Plaintiff Johnson by forcing her to engage in various perverted and depraved sex acts by threatening physical harm to Plaintiff Johnson and also her family. The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, alleges that the Defendants, Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, also did willfully and with extreme malice violate her Civil Rights under 42 U.S.C.; 1985 by conspiring to deny Plaintiff Johnson her Civil Rights by making her their sex slave.

The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, alleges she was subject to extreme sexual and physical abuse by the Defendants, Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, including forcible rape during a four month time span covering the months of June-September 1994 when Plaintiff Johnson was still only a minor of age 13.

The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, alleges she was enticed by promises of money and a modeling career to attend a series of underage sex parties held at the New York City residence of Defendant Jeffrey E. Epstein and attended by Defendant Donald J. Trump.

On the first occasion involving the Defendant, Donald J. Trump, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was forced to manually stimulate Defendant Trump with the use of her hand upon Defendant Trump’s erect penis until he reached sexual orgasm.

On the second occasion involving the Defendant, Donald J. Trump, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was forced to orally copulate Defendant Trump by placing her mouth upon Defendant Trump’s erect penis until he reached sexual orgasm.

On the third occasion involving the Defendant, Donald J. Trump, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson was forced to engage in an unnatural lesbian sex act with her fellow minor and sex slave, Maria Doe age 12, for the sexual enjoyment of Defendant Trump. After this sex act, both minors were forced to orally copulate Defendant Trump by placing their mouths simultaneously on his erect penis until he achieved sexual orgasm. After zipping up his pants, Defendant Trump physically pushed both minors away while angrily berating them for the “poor” quality of their sexual performance.

On the fourth and final sexual encounter with the Defendant, Donald J. Trump, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was tied to a bed by Defendant Trump who then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff Johnson. During the course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff Johnson loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to “please wear a condom”. Defendant Trump responded by violently striking Plaintiff Johnson in the face with his open hand and screaming that “he would do whatever he wanted” as he refused to wear protection. After achieving sexual orgasm, the Defendant, Donald J. Trump put his suit back on and when the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, in tears asked Defendant Trump what would happen if he had impregnated her, Defendant Trump grabbed his wallet and threw some money at her and screamed that she should use the money “to get a fucking abortion”.

On the first occasion involving the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was forced to disrobe into her bra and panties and to give a full body massage to Defendant Epstein while he was completely naked. During the massage, Defendant Epstein physically forced Plaintiff Johnson to touch his erect penis with her bare hands and to clean up his ejaculated semen after he achieved sexual orgasm.

On the second occasion involving the Defendant, Jeffrey Epstein, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was again forced to disrobe into her bra and panties while giving Defendant Epstein a full body massage while he was completely naked. The Defendant, Donald J. Trump, was also present as he was getting his own massage from another minor, Jane Doe, age 13. Defendant Epstein forced Plaintiff Johnson to touch his erect penis by physically placing her bare hands upon his sex organ and again forced Plaintiff Johnson to clean up his ejaculated semen after he achieved sexual orgasm.

Shortly after this sexual assault by the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, on the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, Plaintiff Johnson was still present while the two Defendants were arguing over who would be the one to take Plaintiff Johnson’s virginity. The Defendant, Donald J. Trump, was clearly heard referring to Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, as a “Jew Bastard” as he yelled at Defendant Epstein, that clearly, he, Defendant Trump, should be the lucky one to “pop the cherry” of Plaintiff Johnson.

The third and final sexual assault by the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, on the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, took place after Plaintiff Johnson had been brutally and savagely raped by Defendant Trump. While receiving another full body massage from Plaintiff Johnson, while in the nude, Defendant Epstein became so enraged after finding out that Defendant Trump had been the one to take Plaintiff Johnson’s virginity, that Defendant Epstein also violently raped Plaintiff Johnson.

After forcing Plaintiff Johnson to disrobe into her bra and panties, while receiving a massage from the Plaintiff, Defendant Epstein attempted to enter Plaintiff Johnson’s anal cavity with his erect penis while trying to restrain her. Plaintiff Johnson attempted to push Defendant Epstein away, at which time Defendant Epstein attempted to enter Plaintiff Johnson’s vagina with his erect penis. This attempt to brutally sodomize and rape Plaintiff Johnson by Defendant Epstein was finally repelled by Plaintiff Johnson but not before Defendant Epstein was able to achieve sexual orgasm. After perversely sodomizing and raping the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, attempted to strike her about the head with his closed fists while he angrily screamed at Plaintiff Johnson that he, Defendant Epstein, should have been the one who “took her cherry, not Mr. Trump”, before she finally managed to break away from Defendant Epstein.

The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was fully warned on more than one occasion by both Defendants, Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, that were she ever to reveal any of the details of the sexual and physical abuse that she had suffered as a sex slave for Defendant Trump and Defendant Epstein, that Plaintiff Johnson and her family would be in mortal danger. Plaintiff Johnson was warned that this would mean certain death for herself and Plaintiff Johnson’s family unless she remained silent forever on the exact details of the depraved and perverted sexual and physical abuse she had been forced to endure from the Defendants.

 

MATERIAL WITNESSES

Tiffany Doe, a former trusted employee of the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, has agreed to provide sworn testimony in this civil case and any other future civil or criminal proceedings, fully verifying the authenticity of the claims of the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson. Witness Tiffany Doe was employed by the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, for more than 10 years as a party planner for his underage sex parties. Despite being subject to constant terroristic threats by Defendants Epstein and Trump to never reveal the details of these underage sex parties at which scores of teenagers, and pre-teen girls were used as sex slaves by Defendant Epstein and Defendant Trump, witness Tiffany Doe refuses to be silent any longer. She has agreed to fully reveal the extent of the sexual perversion and physical cruelty that she personally witnessed at these parties by Defendants Epstein and Trump.

Material witness Tiffany Doe fully confirms all of Plaintiff Katie Johnson’s allegations of physical and sexual abuse by Defendants Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein. Tiffany Doe was physically present at each of the four occasions of sexual abuse by Defendant Trump upon the person of Plaintiff Johnson, as it was her job to witness all of the sexual escapades of Defendant Epstein’s guests at these underage sex parties and later reveal all of the sordid details directly to Defendant Epstein. Defendant Epstein also demanded that Tiffany Doe tell him personally everything she had overheard at these parties explaining to her that “knowledge was king” in the financial world. As a result of these underage sex parties, Defendant Epstein was able to accumulate inside business knowledge that he otherwise would never have been privy to in order to amass his huge personal fortune.

Material witness Tiffany Doe will testify that she was also present or had direct knowledge of each of the three instances on which Defendant Jeffrey E. Epstein physically and sexually abused the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson. Tiffany Doe will testify to the fact that the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was extremely fortunate to have survived all of the physical and sexual horrors inflicted upon her by Defendants Epstein and Trump.

(end excerpts from Johnson Complaint)

Would Trump Do Such Things?
 

“The fact that Donald Trump had a friendly relationship with Epstein — he told New York Magazine in 2002 that “(Epstein’s) a lot of fun to be with … It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side”
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Re: Jeffrey Epstein - Commits Suicide - what really happened? Discuss!
« Reply #1003 on: July 25, 2020, 01:13:28 PM »
If he did then let him fry, but Biden will eventually be named too.

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« Reply #1004 on: July 25, 2020, 11:01:49 PM »
https://www.masstortnexus.com/News/5386/Did-Trump-and-Epstein-Rape-Two-Underage-Girls

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein - Commits Suicide - what really happened? Discuss!
« Reply #1005 on: July 26, 2020, 02:27:40 AM »
Did Trump and Epstein Rape Two Underage Girls?
 July 10, 2019 John Ray
Did Trump and Epstein Rape Two Underage Girls?
Before we address the question, Did Trump and Epstein Rape Two Underage Girls” we will first discuss Attorney General Bob Barr’s highly unusual decision to un-recuse himself from the Epstein case and actually take direct control over the case, despite have previously announced he was conflicted from having anything to do with the matter.



 

Why did Barr Un-Recuse?
Mass Tort Nexus researcher, Mark York, discovered a civil lawsuit filed in 2016 by Katie Johnson (now an adult), she accuses Trump and Epstein of committing multiple acts of sexual violence against herself (13 at the time) as well as a 12-year-old. (see excerpts below or download the complaint at:

Donald Trump – Jeffrey Epstein Federal Complaint (USDC California 2016) Re: Minor Sex Abuse

Given Epstein’s history of secretly taping famous people taking sexual advantage of young women procured by Epstein, if the allegations in the Johnson complaint are true, Trump has every reason to be concerned that tapes might exist which would prove Johnson’s allegations.

Would Bob Barr Obstruct Justice to protect Trump?
Evidence to date would suggest that Bob Barr is more than willing to pervert our justice system and even defy elected officials to protect his boss.

Would Trump ask Barr to Un-Recuse Himself?
The Presidents history (in his own words) related to Jeff Session’s recusal from the Russia Probe and subsequent refusal to un-recuse himself provide strong evidence that the President would ask an attorney general to un-recuse himself despite any previously addressed conflicts.



Why would Trump want his loyal Protector in Chief (Barr) in charge of the Epstein matter?
The remainder of this article will provide information on which the reader can draw their own conclusions as to why Trump may need Barr to interfere in the Epstein Case.

White House Initial Reactions to Epstein Indictment
Kellyanne Conway took the airways shortly after the new Epstein indictment was announced claiming that the president had not talked to nor seen Epstein in 10 to 15 years. If this claim was intended give the impression that the President and his hold friend had not cross paths in over a decade, the Lawsuit filed by Katie Johnson against Trump and Epstein in 2016 (co-defendants) accusing the pair of committing multiple acts of sexual violence against Johnson (then 13) and another girl (12 at the time) makes the statements made by Kellyanne Conway highly questionable. (see excerpts from complaint below)



 



Also See:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/09/trump-jeffrey-epstein-kellyanne-conway-1402997

NOT FAKE NEW’s
After reading the excepts provided below from the Johnson complaint, you decide is Trump may need someone (Barr) to run interference on his behalf before the Epstein matter spills over and creates yet another potential reason Trump may have to be concerned about his future, not just as President but also as total loss of his choice of clothing (being restricted to a single orange jumpsuit).

 



Excerpts from Complaint:

FACTUAL ALLEGATIONS

The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, alleges that the Defendants, Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, did willfully and with extreme malice violate her Civil Rights under 18 U.S.C. ; 2241 by sexually and physically abusing Plaintiff Johnson by forcing her to engage in various perverted and depraved sex acts by threatening physical harm to Plaintiff Johnson and also her family. The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, alleges that the Defendants, Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, also did willfully and with extreme malice violate her Civil Rights under 42 U.S.C.; 1985 by conspiring to deny Plaintiff Johnson her Civil Rights by making her their sex slave.

The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, alleges she was subject to extreme sexual and physical abuse by the Defendants, Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, including forcible rape during a four month time span covering the months of June-September 1994 when Plaintiff Johnson was still only a minor of age 13.

The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, alleges she was enticed by promises of money and a modeling career to attend a series of underage sex parties held at the New York City residence of Defendant Jeffrey E. Epstein and attended by Defendant Donald J. Trump.

On the first occasion involving the Defendant, Donald J. Trump, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was forced to manually stimulate Defendant Trump with the use of her hand upon Defendant Trump’s erect penis until he reached sexual orgasm.

On the second occasion involving the Defendant, Donald J. Trump, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was forced to orally copulate Defendant Trump by placing her mouth upon Defendant Trump’s erect penis until he reached sexual orgasm.

On the third occasion involving the Defendant, Donald J. Trump, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson was forced to engage in an unnatural lesbian sex act with her fellow minor and sex slave, Maria Doe age 12, for the sexual enjoyment of Defendant Trump. After this sex act, both minors were forced to orally copulate Defendant Trump by placing their mouths simultaneously on his erect penis until he achieved sexual orgasm. After zipping up his pants, Defendant Trump physically pushed both minors away while angrily berating them for the “poor” quality of their sexual performance.

On the fourth and final sexual encounter with the Defendant, Donald J. Trump, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was tied to a bed by Defendant Trump who then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff Johnson. During the course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff Johnson loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to “please wear a condom”. Defendant Trump responded by violently striking Plaintiff Johnson in the face with his open hand and screaming that “he would do whatever he wanted” as he refused to wear protection. After achieving sexual orgasm, the Defendant, Donald J. Trump put his suit back on and when the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, in tears asked Defendant Trump what would happen if he had impregnated her, Defendant Trump grabbed his wallet and threw some money at her and screamed that she should use the money “to get a fucking abortion”.

On the first occasion involving the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was forced to disrobe into her bra and panties and to give a full body massage to Defendant Epstein while he was completely naked. During the massage, Defendant Epstein physically forced Plaintiff Johnson to touch his erect penis with her bare hands and to clean up his ejaculated semen after he achieved sexual orgasm.

On the second occasion involving the Defendant, Jeffrey Epstein, the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was again forced to disrobe into her bra and panties while giving Defendant Epstein a full body massage while he was completely naked. The Defendant, Donald J. Trump, was also present as he was getting his own massage from another minor, Jane Doe, age 13. Defendant Epstein forced Plaintiff Johnson to touch his erect penis by physically placing her bare hands upon his sex organ and again forced Plaintiff Johnson to clean up his ejaculated semen after he achieved sexual orgasm.

Shortly after this sexual assault by the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, on the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, Plaintiff Johnson was still present while the two Defendants were arguing over who would be the one to take Plaintiff Johnson’s virginity. The Defendant, Donald J. Trump, was clearly heard referring to Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, as a “Jew Bastard” as he yelled at Defendant Epstein, that clearly, he, Defendant Trump, should be the lucky one to “pop the cherry” of Plaintiff Johnson.

The third and final sexual assault by the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, on the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, took place after Plaintiff Johnson had been brutally and savagely raped by Defendant Trump. While receiving another full body massage from Plaintiff Johnson, while in the nude, Defendant Epstein became so enraged after finding out that Defendant Trump had been the one to take Plaintiff Johnson’s virginity, that Defendant Epstein also violently raped Plaintiff Johnson.

After forcing Plaintiff Johnson to disrobe into her bra and panties, while receiving a massage from the Plaintiff, Defendant Epstein attempted to enter Plaintiff Johnson’s anal cavity with his erect penis while trying to restrain her. Plaintiff Johnson attempted to push Defendant Epstein away, at which time Defendant Epstein attempted to enter Plaintiff Johnson’s vagina with his erect penis. This attempt to brutally sodomize and rape Plaintiff Johnson by Defendant Epstein was finally repelled by Plaintiff Johnson but not before Defendant Epstein was able to achieve sexual orgasm. After perversely sodomizing and raping the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, attempted to strike her about the head with his closed fists while he angrily screamed at Plaintiff Johnson that he, Defendant Epstein, should have been the one who “took her cherry, not Mr. Trump”, before she finally managed to break away from Defendant Epstein.

The Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was fully warned on more than one occasion by both Defendants, Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein, that were she ever to reveal any of the details of the sexual and physical abuse that she had suffered as a sex slave for Defendant Trump and Defendant Epstein, that Plaintiff Johnson and her family would be in mortal danger. Plaintiff Johnson was warned that this would mean certain death for herself and Plaintiff Johnson’s family unless she remained silent forever on the exact details of the depraved and perverted sexual and physical abuse she had been forced to endure from the Defendants.

 

MATERIAL WITNESSES

Tiffany Doe, a former trusted employee of the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, has agreed to provide sworn testimony in this civil case and any other future civil or criminal proceedings, fully verifying the authenticity of the claims of the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson. Witness Tiffany Doe was employed by the Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, for more than 10 years as a party planner for his underage sex parties. Despite being subject to constant terroristic threats by Defendants Epstein and Trump to never reveal the details of these underage sex parties at which scores of teenagers, and pre-teen girls were used as sex slaves by Defendant Epstein and Defendant Trump, witness Tiffany Doe refuses to be silent any longer. She has agreed to fully reveal the extent of the sexual perversion and physical cruelty that she personally witnessed at these parties by Defendants Epstein and Trump.

Material witness Tiffany Doe fully confirms all of Plaintiff Katie Johnson’s allegations of physical and sexual abuse by Defendants Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey E. Epstein. Tiffany Doe was physically present at each of the four occasions of sexual abuse by Defendant Trump upon the person of Plaintiff Johnson, as it was her job to witness all of the sexual escapades of Defendant Epstein’s guests at these underage sex parties and later reveal all of the sordid details directly to Defendant Epstein. Defendant Epstein also demanded that Tiffany Doe tell him personally everything she had overheard at these parties explaining to her that “knowledge was king” in the financial world. As a result of these underage sex parties, Defendant Epstein was able to accumulate inside business knowledge that he otherwise would never have been privy to in order to amass his huge personal fortune.

Material witness Tiffany Doe will testify that she was also present or had direct knowledge of each of the three instances on which Defendant Jeffrey E. Epstein physically and sexually abused the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson. Tiffany Doe will testify to the fact that the Plaintiff, Katie Johnson, was extremely fortunate to have survived all of the physical and sexual horrors inflicted upon her by Defendants Epstein and Trump.

(end excerpts from Johnson Complaint)

Would Trump Do Such Things?
 

“The fact that Donald Trump had a friendly relationship with Epstein — he told New York Magazine in 2002 that “(Epstein’s) a lot of fun to be with … It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side”

Oh brother. Look, we all know mr i believe i can fly whats his name rkelly we all know he did what he did because actual 14 year old girls went to the police. Who gives a fuck what a 40 year old woman claims happened 25 years ago? Shit i dont care about 25 days ago if 12 and 13 year olds are getting raped i expect them to be running for the nearest cop the first chance they get. No more of this "i want compensation for my pain and suffering a generation ago!" bullshit seriously.

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein - Commits Suicide - what really happened? Discuss!
« Reply #1006 on: July 26, 2020, 03:50:47 AM »
Oh brother. Look, we all know mr i believe i can fly whats his name rkelly we all know he did what he did because actual 14 year old girls went to the police. Who gives a fuck what a 40 year old woman claims happened 25 years ago? Shit i dont care about 25 days ago if 12 and 13 year olds are getting raped i expect them to be running for the nearest cop the first chance they get. No more of this "i want compensation for my pain and suffering a generation ago!" bullshit seriously.
I agree.  Lots of money to be made and that's why I am against financial compensation for crimes unless it was theft.  Having a financial incentive to say you were raped or molested really muddies the water.

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« Reply #1007 on: July 26, 2020, 05:12:10 AM »
you have to much time and to much hate in your heart. you can be free of hate and self hatred.
                    :D :D :D :D    actually it should be too instead of to but i'm not one to nitpick. :D :D :D :D       
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« Reply #1008 on: July 26, 2020, 06:38:01 AM »
                    :D :D :D :D    actually it should be too instead of to but i'm not one to nitpick. :D :D :D :D       


99.9% its a johnny falcon dupe. Has to be.

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Re: Jeffrey Epstein - Commits Suicide - what really happened? Discuss!
« Reply #1009 on: July 27, 2020, 01:54:12 AM »
Higgins was right. Those guys suck.

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« Reply #1010 on: July 28, 2020, 01:53:10 PM »
Sorry but I have not had enough time to keep up to date on this subject matter .... so the follow may be old news ....

Lawyers for Ghislaine Maxwell are trying to stop her accusers from posting evidence online ahead of her trail, according to a proposed protective order submitted to a judge on Monday.

The British socialite’s legal team wants to prevent prosecutors working for women who claim she recruited them for convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein from releasing any information, including “nude, partially nude or otherwise sexualised images, videos or other depictions of individuals”.

Ms Maxwell’s lawyers say her accusers should be subject to the same secrecy rules as prosecutors and defence lawyers before the trial, which is scheduled in Manhattan federal court for July 2021.

The joint protective order is routine in sex abuse cases, but the lawyers said in a letter to a judge that prosecutors have refused to agree that witnesses and their lawyers should be subject to the restrictions.

Ms Maxwell’s lawyers said the release of any evidence could also boost pending civil lawsuits between her and “many of the government’s potential witnesses”.

The socialite’s attorneys said several potential witnesses and their lawyers have already publicly commented on the case.

“There is a substantial concern that these individuals will seek to use discovery materials to support their civil cases and future public statements,” the lawyers wrote.

Prosecutors said they will respond on Tuesday.

Ms Maxwell, 58, who has been held without bail since her arrest on 2 July, has pleaded not guilty to charges that she recruited and aided the abuse of three girls by Epstein in the 1990s.

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« Reply #1011 on: July 30, 2020, 07:30:15 AM »
Ghislaine Maxwell has lost a desperate last-minute appeal to stop “embarrassing” confidential documents from being released.

US District Judge Loretta Preska confirmed her ruling that the files must be unsealed and released to the public, despite Ms Maxwell’s lawyers' “extraordinary request” for her to reconsider.

The British socialite, 58, had tried to argue that the government wrongfully used depositions filed in her civil lawsuit to bring criminal charges.

She is currently answering a number of suits brought by victims of associate Jeffrey Epstein.

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« Reply #1012 on: July 30, 2020, 10:49:40 AM »
Ghislaine Maxwell has lost a desperate last-minute appeal to stop “embarrassing” confidential documents from being released.

US District Judge Loretta Preska confirmed her ruling that the files must be unsealed and released to the public, despite Ms Maxwell’s lawyers' “extraordinary request” for her to reconsider.

The British socialite, 58, had tried to argue that the government wrongfully used depositions filed in her civil lawsuit to bring criminal charges.

She is currently answering a number of suits brought by victims of associate Jeffrey Epstein.
President Trump said he wished alleged sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell "well" during a White House coronavirus briefing on Tuesday. Maxwell, the former girlfriend of financier Jeffrey Epstein, is accused of recruiting girls in the 1990s for Epstein to sexually abuse during massage sessions she sometimes participated in at his Manhattan mansion and in Palm Beach, Florida; Santa Fe, New Mexico, and London.


Mr. Trump was asked about her case and whether she should turn in other powerful men such as Britain's Prince Andrew, who U.S. authorities want to speak to.

"I don't know, I really haven't been following it too much," he said. "I just wish her well, frankly. I've met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm Beach... But I wish her well, whatever it is."


Mr. Trump and his wife Melania were seen in photos with Epstein and Maxwell in the 2000s. Mr. Trump and Epstein both own property on Palm Beach.

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Donald Trump with his girlfriend (and future wife) Melania Knauss, financier (and future convicted sex offender) Jeffrey Epstein, and British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell at the Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, Florida, February 12, 2000.
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Maxwell, 58, is facing criminal charges from allegations that she facilitated and participated in some of Epstein's alleged sex crimes. She pleaded not guilty to the charges and was denied bail last week. Maxwell has been held without bail since her July 2 arrest and will remain behind bars until trial.

 
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Epstein, 66, took his life last August at a Manhattan federal jail while he awaited trial on sex trafficking charges.

Maxwell could face 35 years in prison if convicted on six criminal counts, including four for allegedly transporting minors for sexual assaults.

Virginia Roberts Giuffre, one of Epstein's alleged victims, told "CBS This Morning" co-host Gayle King last week that Maxwell was the "mastermind" behind the alleged sex trafficking.

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"She is a monster," Giuffre said. "She's worse than Epstein. She did things even worse than Epstein did. She was vicious. She was evil. And she's a woman."

Giuffre said Maxwell, along with Epstein, groomed and abused her and forced her to have sex with Prince Andrew when she was 17. Prince Andrew said he has no recollection of meeting Giuffre and denies having sex with her.

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« Reply #1013 on: July 30, 2020, 12:52:59 PM »






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« Reply #1014 on: July 31, 2020, 11:26:30 PM »
Fascinating:

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« Reply #1015 on: August 01, 2020, 02:25:38 AM »
Fascinating:

As if the Clinton’s were not involved in Epstein’s death! LOL. You’re an idiot. How many different accounts do you log in and out of in order to try to draw attention away from the Clinton’s?

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« Reply #1016 on: August 01, 2020, 05:48:55 AM »
I don't know how deep the Epstein revelations will go, but America can't turn a blind eye to this just because he is dead.

If my full time job is that of a gunsmith, anyone associating with me either wants a gun or will certainly know of my trade, because frankly that's all I do and know. Given what we know of Epstein, that he was the leader/orchestrator to an international child sex trafficking ring, there's just no way that all those in attendance either at his island or due to mutual acquaintance wouldn't know. It's just in our capitalistic DNA within this country to want to know what people do for a living and how they can be of benefit to us.

If he and Trump were once close, then Trump certainly knew, it would be naive to even assume ignorance. Clinton was certainly in on all of it. No one goes to that pedophile's island 26 times just for the mints he kept in his living room's candy jar.

The worst part is that if this truly gets further unearthed and people associating with him are named for what they are, accomplices in most cases, then the nation will have for once exposed a conspiracy as true. It will flip this nation on its head if all of its greatest influencers from top Hollywood actors, sitting politicians and the highly elite financial players are all exposed.

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« Reply #1017 on: August 01, 2020, 06:30:37 AM »
Epstein took corporate hospitality for the elites to the next level, especially with the sex shows and orgies. When he couldn't exert influence that way he used black mail.

If it wasn't for the rapes and underage girls stuff he'd be a bit of an anti hero for the way he took advantage of those elites.

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« Reply #1018 on: August 01, 2020, 08:57:03 AM »
I don't know how deep the Epstein revelations will go, but America can't turn a blind eye to this just because he is dead.

If my full time job is that of a gunsmith, anyone associating with me either wants a gun or will certainly know of my trade, because frankly that's all I do and know. Given what we know of Epstein, that he was the leader/orchestrator to an international child sex trafficking ring, there's just no way that all those in attendance either at his island or due to mutual acquaintance wouldn't know. It's just in our capitalistic DNA within this country to want to know what people do for a living and how they can be of benefit to us.

If he and Trump were once close, then Trump certainly knew, it would be naive to even assume ignorance. Clinton was certainly in on all of it. No one goes to that pedophile's island 26 times just for the mints he kept in his living room's candy jar.

The worst part is that if this truly gets further unearthed and people associating with him are named for what they are, accomplices in most cases, then the nation will have for once exposed a conspiracy as true. It will flip this nation on its head if all of its greatest influencers from top Hollywood actors, sitting politicians and the highly elite financial players are all exposed.

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I really doubt many will be exposed as they will protect each other.  They'll throw out a sacrificial lamb or two but I think it's going to be a big letdown.

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« Reply #1019 on: August 01, 2020, 09:01:53 AM »
I really doubt many will be exposed as they will protect each other.  They'll throw out a sacrificial lamb or two but I think it's going to be a big letdown.

I hope you're wrong on this one chief. The list of "friends" that utilized his services and spent time on his island are/were quite the movers and shakers in our society. Pedophiles should be burned to death.

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« Reply #1020 on: August 01, 2020, 09:08:56 AM »
Hollyweird is rife with 'em.  From Casting Couch to Casting Crib, these pedophiles are disgusting.

I say fuck them all!

Regardless of age, race or religious preference, they should all burn.

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« Reply #1021 on: August 01, 2020, 09:12:14 AM »
I hope you're wrong on this one chief. The list of "friends" that utilized his services and spent time on his island are/were quite the movers and shakers in our society. Pedophiles should be burned to death.

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I hope I'm wrong but I rarely am.  That's why I'm a narcissist.

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« Reply #1022 on: August 01, 2020, 09:14:10 AM »
I hope I'm wrong but I rarely am.  That's why I'm a narcissist.

But the mere fact that you hope to be wrong shows you're somewhat humble in your ways.

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« Reply #1023 on: August 01, 2020, 10:25:15 AM »
Thanks for some great comments as written immediately above.

I'd just like to add that .... We will NEVER get to know everything we'd like to know about all of the individuals involved because those who are deeply involved are too damn powerful/well known/protected to suffer the consequences.

A slap on the wrist will most likely be the most severe sentence if and when a judge or jury decides that so-n-so is guilty of a sinister association with Epstein .. and even Maxwell.


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Re: Jeffrey Epstein - Commits Suicide - what really happened? Discuss!
« Reply #1024 on: August 02, 2020, 01:24:16 PM »
Bill Clinton visited Jeffrey Epstein's private island, unsealed court documents reveal

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bill-clinton-visited-jeffrey-epsteins-110926926.html