Josh Lenartowicz - health issues

[SOMEPARTS]

Ok, so you guys in your gym with purple faces and it's automatically assumed that it's from gear. Here's legit question for you. This is a bodybuilding (supposedly) website, are you on here just to make uninformed accusations and to shit on bodybuilding as a whole or do you actually have something to contribute.

Unless you're perfect with no vices, there are a million other things out there besides "steroids" that would do a hell of a lot more damage to your health.

You leave Toka Swolla outta this.

[Coach is Back!]

Using more than real “trt” dosages prescribed by a doctor is an addict

Chasing big muscles, on various cycles of insulin, gh, peptides, IS an addict

You see, addicts almost ALWAYS have to justify their usage, usual signs of an addict 

Addicts generally don’t have an off cycle....ever. We can have this conversation all day long. Let me know. Like I said, you know there’s drugs in bodybuilding as will most sports and industries. If trolls on here just to shit on the industry knowing full well what to expect then why even comment or be on here.

[oldtimer1]

Steroid addicts off cycle is clomid, anti estrogen, HCG and inject able testosterone in quantities that isn't prescribed for hormone replacement.

[AbrahamG]

SF tried pulling the same shit by labeling every bodybuilder as "drug addict" and got caught. Define "addict". 

Define "got caught". 

[el numero uno]

Wasn't he a natty? Why would he face health problems at such young age?

[TheGreatOak]

Addicts generally don’t have an off cycle....ever. We can have this conversation all day long. Let me know. Like I said, you know there’s drugs in bodybuilding as will most sports and industries. If trolls on here just to shit on the industry knowing full well what to expect then why even comment or be on here.

Come on, Coach. You've been around the block. Although there are some genuine bodybuilding fans and contributors here, most are here to troll or talk about non-bodybuilding things, even on the G&O.

There are plenty of hardcore bodybuilding discussion forums around, maybe you should check them out. Seems better than to pander to the trolls here.

[gib]

Agreed. And while people like Dave Palumbo consistently cite genetics, McCarver's case was simply too ridiculous to deny being caused by excessive use of performance enhancing drugs.

Question:

Do you think had McCarver stopped all PEDs after his onstage incident 4-5 months prior to his death and immediately started a medical program to reduce his blood pressure in addition to dropping body weight, would be still be with us, or was the damage already done?

Damage was done. He had tumors and organ failure. But possible his life could have been significantly extended - operations, treatment, transplants, meds, monitoring etc.

[gib]

Yet you'll pass judgement anyway.. Josh is one of the most grounded, down to Earth competitors out there. A gentle giant.

Didn't know you were privy to his dosages, please do share...

Agree. Very nice humble guy. I think he could make top 3 O, maybe even win it.

In terms of dosages, he is clearly on the large(ish) size, multi combo (test, GH, orals/injectable androgenic anabolics etc), and for long periods of time. However, the bigger risk in what he was taking in my view is actually how "clean" the products were. Im suspecting not all was pharma-grade - there's some underground stuff, and that's where the biggers risk's lie (likely also contributed to Dallas's tumours).

[gib]

Using more than real “trt” dosages prescribed by a doctor is an addict

Chasing big muscles, on various cycles of insulin, gh, peptides, IS an addict

You see, addicts almost ALWAYS have to justify their usage, usual signs of an addict 

Not addict. Can be a logical and controlled and conscious decision with a view to achieving a particular outcome.

[Matt]

With a hardened kidney, heavy lungs and thyroid cancer, I believe the damage was already done sadly.

Damage was done. He had tumors and organ failure. But possible his life could have been significantly extended - operations, treatment, transplants, meds, monitoring etc.

Thanks for the answers. I guess Dallas juiced wildly, even by pro bodybuilder standards.

[Powerlift66]

BB drugs (when abused) can, and do kill (Dallas, Piana, Munzer, Mattarazo, many more), much more than weed ever did or will.
Test/TRT IMO is OK for healthy/aging males, when done properly at real TRT doses,and quarterly bloods.
All the other drugs (EQ, Deca, Orals, Insulin) is asking for trouble. I'm not talking one "mini-blast" a year (12-16 weeks) of a CC of each (probably safe), but it also wont buy you much either.
(Except for a rise in LDL and blood pressure).

These fruitcakes slam so much poison, for zero money, and risk their health. Test can be a fountain of youth, but its very powerful at even 100 mg a week.
Respect the Test... Dont know this Josh character, but those who slam loads of gear 24x7, end up with issues, mental, physical, etc.

[Fortress]

Who?

[Bevo]

Not addict. Can be a logical and controlled and conscious decision with a view to achieving a particular outcome.

Yes, pinning yourself multiple times a day, everyday, cycling with multiple compounds, is not normal

[Matt]

Who?

LOL!!!

[AbrahamG]

BB drugs (when abused) can, and do kill (Dallas, Piana, Munzer, Mattarazo, many more), much more than weed ever did or will.
Test/TRT IMO is OK for healthy/aging males, when done properly at real TRT doses,and quarterly bloods.
All the other drugs (EQ, Deca, Orals, Insulin) is asking for trouble. I'm not talking one "mini-blast" a year (12-16 weeks) of a CC of each (probably safe), but it also wont buy you much either.
(Except for a rise in LDL and blood pressure).

These fruitcakes slam so much poison, for zero money, and risk their health. Test can be a fountain of youth, but its very powerful at even 100 mg a week.
Respect the Test... Dont know this Josh character, but those who slam loads of gear 24x7, end up with issues, mental, physical, etc.

This right here.  I get fantastic numbers and results from 100mg's per week of pharm cyp.  That stuff catches up to you eventually. 

[MAXX]

Wasn't he a natty? Why would he face health problems at such young age?

body doesn't care about age if you abuse your body..

Mcgarvers heart imploded at 26

[usmcdevildoc]

Thanks for the answers. I guess Dallas juiced wildly, even by pro bodybuilder standards.

Did Josh ever learn CPR after the Dallas incident?

[gib]

BB drugs (when abused) can, and do kill (Dallas, Piana, Munzer, Mattarazo, many more), much more than weed ever did or will.
Test/TRT IMO is OK for healthy/aging males, when done properly at real TRT doses,and quarterly bloods.
All the other drugs (EQ, Deca, Orals, Insulin) is asking for trouble. I'm not talking one "mini-blast" a year (12-16 weeks) of a CC of each (probably safe), but it also wont buy you much either.
(Except for a rise in LDL and blood pressure).

These fruitcakes slam so much poison, for zero money, and risk their health. Test can be a fountain of youth, but its very powerful at even 100 mg a week.
Respect the Test... Dont know this Josh character, but those who slam loads of gear 24x7, end up with issues, mental, physical, etc.

Like test, Deca taken at moderate dosages can be long term safe and beneficial I believe.

[JuicedKangaroo]

Thanks for the answers. I guess Dallas juiced wildly, even by pro bodybuilder standards.

Yes, even Nick Trigili of all people was telling him to slow down and that he was looking unhealthy...

[TestTren4ever]

OK - that's good to hear (that its not organs). All OK with his marriage?

Mentally, you gotta wonder if Dallas (RIP) dying, and seeing his corpse on the floor etc had an effect. Got to have been a real tough moment in life to have experienced that

definitely. I'd be fucked up for life in that situation. That's gauranteed to provoke some kind of existential crisis; you're witnessing somebody you were close with dying in the pursuit of the thing you've given based your life and career around. Things can't be the same after that, his entire sense of identity probably rapidly changes. I am sure he's been suffering since then and I wish him the best.

[IRON CROSS]

Not organ-related from what I've heard, more so mental health. He will be okay. Would like to see him nail his conditioning and place competitively at the O.

Hey Lee , how is Banksmeadow forklifting going on 

[JuicedKangaroo]

Hey Lee , how is Banksmeadow forklifting going on 

Did you see what Lee actually commented on Josh's IG post? Pretty clear I am not Lee Priest...

[usmcdevildoc]

Yes, even Nick Trigili of all people was telling him to slow down and that he was looking unhealthy...

Nick still selling dick?

[Taffin]

Wasn't he a natty? Why would he face health problems at such young age?

Apparently it's genetic...  


"josh_lenartowicz Verified
Tonight I had a great friend tell me some banana head has made up a “fact” that my kidneys are out. They are great, my liver is great, my blood work all over is great, my mental health is great, my heart is great. If this could help people in bodybuilding I would say so as it lives in alignment with who I am. This is genetic, it doesn’t matter if you are a long distance runner or a professional sports star or sit in an office all day and you don’t get to choose when it happens, my middle brother had it (who doesn’t train) and it’s incredibly rare but I’m doing great and I’m recovering so that’s awesome but I don’t appreciate fools trying to sell a story out of nothingness which puts pressure on family and close friends who have had to deal with this by my side. When I am recovered and have all of my results I will share it even though I don’t need to but it’s just the person I am and I do know that it’s a very interesting story no matter who you are. Huge thank you for all the kind messages and support people have given me and massive thanks to my sponsors for sticking by me and most of all my family and closest friends. My best bodybuilding days are ahead of me (I hope in the next 7.5 weeks but hard to say at this point) with so many things online in bodybuilding be mindful that the majority of the things you hear are not true unless you hear it from the persons mouth. In the case of the above I have never spoken to this person (who says he has) in my life and would love to step in the ring with him.

For those interested in health please get your blood work done every 3 months for prevention- liver function test, kidney function test, full blood examination, esr, fasting glucose, lipids profile. Once every year or two have a ct angiogram and echocardiogram for your heart that will test for narrowing and occlusions, other tests you may want to have are things like a gastroscopy and/or colonoscopy depending on your family history. The more tests you have the better for prevention but please know that no one is invincible and somethings (like what I went through) there are no warning signs or tests you can do as it’s genetic and you can’t change them"




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And absolutely nothing at all to do with getting into this kind of shape a few months ago...





That last image was only posted in the last few hours, check out the message that went with it...

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[SF1900]

Bevo, remember, Josh is natural. He said so. Stop bullying him.

“But, he vehemently denies claims he has ever used performance-enhancing drugs and says his transformation is all natural. ‘I’ve never ever cheated in my life…It’s almost a form of bullying in a way,’ he said. ‘If people said that about Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods … it is disrespectful in a way because it disregards all the hard work.”