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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #50 on: August 18, 2019, 12:08:52 AM »
definitely. I'd be fucked up for life in that situation. That's gauranteed to provoke some kind of existential crisis; you're witnessing somebody you were close with dying in the pursuit of the thing you've given based your life and career around. Things can't be the same after that, his entire sense of identity probably rapidly changes. I am sure he's been suffering since then and I wish him the best.

Don’t think it phased him one bit or gives a fuck, he will continue on....

Mental issues of peace

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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #51 on: August 18, 2019, 12:09:53 AM »
Apparently it's genetic...  ::)


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Tonight I had a great friend tell me some banana head has made up a “fact” that my kidneys are out. They are great, my liver is great, my blood work all over is great, my mental health is great, my heart is great. If this could help people in bodybuilding I would say so as it lives in alignment with who I am. This is genetic, it doesn’t matter if you are a long distance runner or a professional sports star or sit in an office all day and you don’t get to choose when it happens, my middle brother had it (who doesn’t train) and it’s incredibly rare but I’m doing great and I’m recovering so that’s awesome but I don’t appreciate fools trying to sell a story out of nothingness which puts pressure on family and close friends who have had to deal with this by my side. When I am recovered and have all of my results I will share it even though I don’t need to but it’s just the person I am and I do know that it’s a very interesting story no matter who you are. Huge thank you for all the kind messages and support people have given me and massive thanks to my sponsors for sticking by me and most of all my family and closest friends. My best bodybuilding days are ahead of me (I hope in the next 7.5 weeks but hard to say at this point) with so many things online in bodybuilding be mindful that the majority of the things you hear are not true unless you hear it from the persons mouth. In the case of the above I have never spoken to this person (who says he has) in my life and would love to step in the ring with him.

For those interested in health please get your blood work done every 3 months for prevention- liver function test, kidney function test, full blood examination, esr, fasting glucose, lipids profile. Once every year or two have a ct angiogram and echocardiogram for your heart that will test for narrowing and occlusions, other tests you may want to have are things like a gastroscopy and/or colonoscopy depending on your family history. The more tests you have the better for prevention but please know that no one is invincible and somethings (like what I went through) there are no warning signs or tests you can do as it’s genetic and you can’t change them"





https://www.instagram.com/p/B0TGDL_BhxQ/


And absolutely nothing at all to do with getting into this kind of shape a few months ago...





That last image was only posted in the last few hours, check out the message that went with it...

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Maybe if he’s dies he thinks he’ll be reunited with Dallas

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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2019, 12:10:53 AM »
Bevo, remember, Josh is natural. He said so. Stop bullying him.

“But, he vehemently denies claims he has ever used performance-enhancing drugs and says his transformation is all natural. ‘I’ve never ever cheated in my life…It’s almost a form of bullying in a way,’ he said. ‘If people said that about Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods … it is disrespectful in a way because it disregards all the hard work.”

How’s your Olympia training going?

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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #53 on: August 18, 2019, 07:29:52 AM »
denial - mental issues

good luck - his family and gf need to step in here

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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #54 on: August 18, 2019, 07:34:16 AM »
Apparently it's genetic...  ::)


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Tonight I had a great friend tell me some banana head has made up a “fact” that my kidneys are out. They are great, my liver is great, my blood work all over is great, my mental health is great, my heart is great. If this could help people in bodybuilding I would say so as it lives in alignment with who I am. This is genetic, it doesn’t matter if you are a long distance runner or a professional sports star or sit in an office all day and you don’t get to choose when it happens, my middle brother had it (who doesn’t train) and it’s incredibly rare but I’m doing great and I’m recovering so that’s awesome but I don’t appreciate fools trying to sell a story out of nothingness which puts pressure on family and close friends who have had to deal with this by my side. When I am recovered and have all of my results I will share it even though I don’t need to but it’s just the person I am and I do know that it’s a very interesting story no matter who you are. Huge thank you for all the kind messages and support people have given me and massive thanks to my sponsors for sticking by me and most of all my family and closest friends. My best bodybuilding days are ahead of me (I hope in the next 7.5 weeks but hard to say at this point) with so many things online in bodybuilding be mindful that the majority of the things you hear are not true unless you hear it from the persons mouth. In the case of the above I have never spoken to this person (who says he has) in my life and would love to step in the ring with him.

For those interested in health please get your blood work done every 3 months for prevention- liver function test, kidney function test, full blood examination, esr, fasting glucose, lipids profile. Once every year or two have a ct angiogram and echocardiogram for your heart that will test for narrowing and occlusions, other tests you may want to have are things like a gastroscopy and/or colonoscopy depending on your family history. The more tests you have the better for prevention but please know that no one is invincible and somethings (like what I went through) there are no warning signs or tests you can do as it’s genetic and you can’t change them"





https://www.instagram.com/p/B0TGDL_BhxQ/


And absolutely nothing at all to do with getting into this kind of shape a few months ago...





That last image was only posted in the last few hours, check out the message that went with it...

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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2019, 07:44:29 AM »
Eggs are highly anabolic.

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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2019, 08:45:49 AM »
Attractive people can't slam gear. Josh looked like a pretty white boy and hardcore gear really fucks attractive people. Like Flex Wheeler. Many chicks dug him even in competitive day with pretty face and soft voice. Nature decided that's too much pussy. It's like nature's way of having balance in the world. God gives you attractive features, you don't get to be superhumanly jacked or you'll suffer. Look at female bodybuilders and what happens to their faces. Just too attractive to be hardcore. Same reason really attractive people are rarely super funny.Some pretty boy that is hilariously funny? Rare. Just too much pussy so God gives fat guys great senses of humor to balance shit out.  If attractive, stick with trt and men's physique look and just accept the lack of respect for you in the industry. The pussy will make up for it.  Same with fighting and MMA. Attractive people(with a few exceptions) can't fight. Always some pretty boy that ends up getting his ass kicked when he tries to live the life of a badass. This is all natures balance. Calum von Moger is going through it, muscle's ripping from the bone and going bald. Just too attractive to be 240 lbs ripped. Nature won't allow it. Look at the tragedy of Corey Haim and Corey Feldman. Haim, the attractive one was broken by the hardcore drugs while Feldman is still fucking singing/screeching away and slammed meth and went harder than Haim. But you can't use that many drugs if you're attractive, nature simply says that's not fair. Look at Van Damme.  Go to the Heather Locklear thread.

Attractive people cannot live a badass lifestyle. Karmically unbalanced.  


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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #57 on: August 18, 2019, 10:01:50 AM »
Attractive people can't slam gear. Josh looked like a pretty white boy and hardcore gear really fucks attractive people. Like Flex Wheeler. Many chicks dug him even in competitive day with pretty face and soft voice. Nature decided that's too much pussy. It's like nature's way of having balance in the world. God gives you attractive features, you don't get to be superhumanly jacked or you'll suffer. Look at female bodybuilders and what happens to their faces. Just too attractive to be hardcore. Same reason really attractive people are rarely super funny.Some pretty boy that is hilariously funny? Rare. Just too much pussy so God gives fat guys great senses of humor to balance shit out.  If attractive, stick with trt and men's physique look and just accept the lack of respect for you in the industry. The pussy will make up for it.  Same with fighting and MMA. Attractive people(with a few exceptions) can't fight. Always some pretty boy that ends up getting his ass kicked when he tries to live the life of a badass. This is all natures balance. Calum von Moger is going through it, muscle's ripping from the bone and going bald. Just too attractive to be 240 lbs ripped. Nature won't allow it. Look at the tragedy of Corey Haim and Corey Feldman. Haim, the attractive one was broken by the hardcore drugs while Feldman is still fucking singing/screeching away and slammed meth and went harder than Haim. But you can't use that many drugs if you're attractive, nature simply says that's not fair. Look at Van Damme.  Go to the Heather Locklear thread.

Attractive people cannot live a badass lifestyle. Karmically unbalanced.  


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This is one of the most thought provoking ideas I've ever read.

In this one post you've accomplished the foundation for common sense intelligence that Marty Champions has spent the last decade trying to cultivate.



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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #58 on: August 18, 2019, 10:59:20 AM »
Attractive people can't slam gear. Josh looked like a pretty white boy and hardcore gear really fucks attractive people. Like Flex Wheeler. Many chicks dug him even in competitive day with pretty face and soft voice. Nature decided that's too much pussy. It's like nature's way of having balance in the world. God gives you attractive features, you don't get to be superhumanly jacked or you'll suffer. Look at female bodybuilders and what happens to their faces. Just too attractive to be hardcore. Same reason really attractive people are rarely super funny.Some pretty boy that is hilariously funny? Rare. Just too much pussy so God gives fat guys great senses of humor to balance shit out.  If attractive, stick with trt and men's physique look and just accept the lack of respect for you in the industry. The pussy will make up for it.  Same with fighting and MMA. Attractive people(with a few exceptions) can't fight. Always some pretty boy that ends up getting his ass kicked when he tries to live the life of a badass. This is all natures balance. Calum von Moger is going through it, muscle's ripping from the bone and going bald. Just too attractive to be 240 lbs ripped. Nature won't allow it. Look at the tragedy of Corey Haim and Corey Feldman. Haim, the attractive one was broken by the hardcore drugs while Feldman is still fucking singing/screeching away and slammed meth and went harder than Haim. But you can't use that many drugs if you're attractive, nature simply says that's not fair. Look at Van Damme.  Go to the Heather Locklear thread.

Attractive people cannot live a badass lifestyle. Karmically unbalanced.  

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Solid theorificationing there by Notomorrow...  made me think....

First to spring to mind was Dennis Newman - a guy so handsome nature gave him leukaemia to teach him a lesson...





So surely the karmic clock is ticking for others...?   :-\

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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #59 on: August 18, 2019, 11:16:14 AM »
Solid theorificationing there by Notomorrow...  made me think....

First to spring to mind was Dennis Newman - a guy so handsome nature gave him leukaemia to teach him a lesson...





So surely the karmic clock is ticking for others...?   :-\



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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #60 on: August 18, 2019, 11:31:47 AM »
You learn something new everyday on Getbig.

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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #61 on: August 18, 2019, 01:32:19 PM »
Attractive people can't slam gear. Josh looked like a pretty white boy and hardcore gear really fucks attractive people. Like Flex Wheeler. Many chicks dug him even in competitive day with pretty face and soft voice. Nature decided that's too much pussy. It's like nature's way of having balance in the world. God gives you attractive features, you don't get to be superhumanly jacked or you'll suffer. Look at female bodybuilders and what happens to their faces. Just too attractive to be hardcore. Same reason really attractive people are rarely super funny.Some pretty boy that is hilariously funny? Rare. Just too much pussy so God gives fat guys great senses of humor to balance shit out.  If attractive, stick with trt and men's physique look and just accept the lack of respect for you in the industry. The pussy will make up for it.  Same with fighting and MMA. Attractive people(with a few exceptions) can't fight. Always some pretty boy that ends up getting his ass kicked when he tries to live the life of a badass. This is all natures balance. Calum von Moger is going through it, muscle's ripping from the bone and going bald. Just too attractive to be 240 lbs ripped. Nature won't allow it. Look at the tragedy of Corey Haim and Corey Feldman. Haim, the attractive one was broken by the hardcore drugs while Feldman is still fucking singing/screeching away and slammed meth and went harder than Haim. But you can't use that many drugs if you're attractive, nature simply says that's not fair. Look at Van Damme.  Go to the Heather Locklear thread.

Attractive people cannot live a badass lifestyle. Karmically unbalanced.  


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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #62 on: August 18, 2019, 01:50:08 PM »
BB drugs (when abused) can, and do kill (Dallas, Piana, Munzer, Mattarazo, many more), much more than weed ever did or will.
Test/TRT IMO is OK for healthy/aging males, when done properly at real TRT doses,and quarterly bloods.
All the other drugs (EQ, Deca, Orals, Insulin) is asking for trouble. I'm not talking one "mini-blast" a year (12-16 weeks) of a CC of each (probably safe), but it also wont buy you much either.
(Except for a rise in LDL and blood pressure).

These fruitcakes slam so much poison, for zero money, and risk their health. Test can be a fountain of youth, but its very powerful at even 100 mg a week.
Respect the Test... Dont know this Josh character, but those who slam loads of gear 24x7, end up with issues, mental, physical, etc.

Why would Eq, Deca, all injectible steroids asking for trouble but not Testosterone? Decades ago Dr. Walczak explained to me that ALL anabolic steroids are derivatives of testosterone. The reason was to remove as much of the androgenic properties, which causes the undesirable side effects, while preserving or enhancing the anabolic properties. In that sense, anabolic steroids are actually safer than Testosterone.

As with everything in life, the problems come from abuse whether it's the "safer" anabolics or even something like probably the most abused substance in our society and causes the majority of the health problems, that being food.

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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #63 on: August 18, 2019, 02:09:31 PM »
Attractive people can't slam gear. Josh looked like a pretty white boy and hardcore gear really fucks attractive people. Like Flex Wheeler. Many chicks dug him even in competitive day with pretty face and soft voice. Nature decided that's too much pussy. It's like nature's way of having balance in the world. God gives you attractive features, you don't get to be superhumanly jacked or you'll suffer. Look at female bodybuilders and what happens to their faces. Just too attractive to be hardcore. Same reason really attractive people are rarely super funny.Some pretty boy that is hilariously funny? Rare. Just too much pussy so God gives fat guys great senses of humor to balance shit out.  If attractive, stick with trt and men's physique look and just accept the lack of respect for you in the industry. The pussy will make up for it.  Same with fighting and MMA. Attractive people(with a few exceptions) can't fight. Always some pretty boy that ends up getting his ass kicked when he tries to live the life of a badass. This is all natures balance. Calum von Moger is going through it, muscle's ripping from the bone and going bald. Just too attractive to be 240 lbs ripped. Nature won't allow it. Look at the tragedy of Corey Haim and Corey Feldman. Haim, the attractive one was broken by the hardcore drugs while Feldman is still fucking singing/screeching away and slammed meth and went harder than Haim. But you can't use that many drugs if you're attractive, nature simply says that's not fair. Look at Van Damme.  Go to the Heather Locklear thread.

Attractive people cannot live a badass lifestyle. Karmically unbalanced.  


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Reminds me of Adam Corallas theory about super good looking dudes not being able to pack a hog. It was Jesus leveling the playing field. Obviously every getbigger is the exception to this rule.

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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #64 on: August 18, 2019, 04:18:08 PM »
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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #65 on: August 18, 2019, 04:39:07 PM »
Attractive people can't slam gear. Josh looked like a pretty white boy and hardcore gear really fucks attractive people. Like Flex Wheeler. Many chicks dug him even in competitive day with pretty face and soft voice. Nature decided that's too much pussy. It's like nature's way of having balance in the world. God gives you attractive features, you don't get to be superhumanly jacked or you'll suffer. Look at female bodybuilders and what happens to their faces. Just too attractive to be hardcore. Same reason really attractive people are rarely super funny.Some pretty boy that is hilariously funny? Rare. Just too much pussy so God gives fat guys great senses of humor to balance shit out.  If attractive, stick with trt and men's physique look and just accept the lack of respect for you in the industry. The pussy will make up for it.  Same with fighting and MMA. Attractive people(with a few exceptions) can't fight. Always some pretty boy that ends up getting his ass kicked when he tries to live the life of a badass. This is all natures balance. Calum von Moger is going through it, muscle's ripping from the bone and going bald. Just too attractive to be 240 lbs ripped. Nature won't allow it. Look at the tragedy of Corey Haim and Corey Feldman. Haim, the attractive one was broken by the hardcore drugs while Feldman is still fucking singing/screeching away and slammed meth and went harder than Haim. But you can't use that many drugs if you're attractive, nature simply says that's not fair. Look at Van Damme.  Go to the Heather Locklear thread.

Attractive people cannot live a badass lifestyle. Karmically unbalanced.  


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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #66 on: August 19, 2019, 03:26:33 AM »
Attractive people can't slam gear. Josh looked like a pretty white boy and hardcore gear really fucks attractive people. Like Flex Wheeler. Many chicks dug him even in competitive day with pretty face and soft voice. Nature decided that's too much pussy. It's like nature's way of having balance in the world. God gives you attractive features, you don't get to be superhumanly jacked or you'll suffer. Look at female bodybuilders and what happens to their faces. Just too attractive to be hardcore. Same reason really attractive people are rarely super funny.Some pretty boy that is hilariously funny? Rare. Just too much pussy so God gives fat guys great senses of humor to balance shit out.  If attractive, stick with trt and men's physique look and just accept the lack of respect for you in the industry. The pussy will make up for it.  Same with fighting and MMA. Attractive people(with a few exceptions) can't fight. Always some pretty boy that ends up getting his ass kicked when he tries to live the life of a badass. This is all natures balance. Calum von Moger is going through it, muscle's ripping from the bone and going bald. Just too attractive to be 240 lbs ripped. Nature won't allow it. Look at the tragedy of Corey Haim and Corey Feldman. Haim, the attractive one was broken by the hardcore drugs while Feldman is still fucking singing/screeching away and slammed meth and went harder than Haim. But you can't use that many drugs if you're attractive, nature simply says that's not fair. Look at Van Damme.  Go to the Heather Locklear thread.

Attractive people cannot live a badass lifestyle. Karmically unbalanced.  


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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #67 on: September 03, 2019, 10:18:26 PM »
As expected, Josh's health concerns were NOT related to his kidneys being sauced out. Had a lump on his head, turned out to be a tumor before entering a coma post-surgery. I heard about the bit on his head, didn't think much of it - no idea he ended up in a coma was kept under wraps. INB4 all of the "GH caused this" commentary - his brother doesn't lift and had the same benine tumor when he was a teenager. So pleased to hear that he is better now - onward and upward Josh!

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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #68 on: September 03, 2019, 10:58:21 PM »
how old is Josh?

he has white hairs in his beard  :-\

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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #69 on: September 04, 2019, 10:54:19 AM »
As expected, Josh's health concerns were NOT related to his kidneys being sauced out. Had a lump on his head, turned out to be a tumor before entering a coma post-surgery. I heard about the bit on his head, didn't think much of it - no idea he ended up in a coma was kept under wraps. INB4 all of the "GH caused this" commentary - his brother doesn't lift and had the same benine tumor when he was a teenager. So pleased to hear that he is better now - onward and upward Josh!

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Hmmm.... a healthy young man staying in coma following surgery - usually happens for a reason...

"Delayed recovery from anesthesia or coma after anesthesia is a major anesthetic complication. The causes for delayed recovery from anesthesia are many. They are patient, surgical, anesthetic, and pharmacological factors. The pharmacological factors include the use of various anesthetic and adjuvant drugs, and their interactions with other drugs, known or unknown. This depends upon the pharmacokinetics, pharmacodynamics, context sensitive half-lives, amount of drug administered, accidental administration, co-administration with other drugs etc. The patient factors such as the extremes of age, obesity, and various co-morbidities like the cardiovascular, renal, liver or other major organ dysfunction can potentiate the effects of the drug used. Some of the rare causes are myxoedema coma, drug toxicity and Addison's disease. However the delayed recovery due to anesthetic causes, excluding hypoxia, usually lasts for a few hours to days."


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5187622/

Probably because he was so healthy, right..?
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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #70 on: September 04, 2019, 06:55:19 PM »
He said EVERYTHING was good ..kidneys heart ect
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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #71 on: September 04, 2019, 06:57:21 PM »
Agreed. And while people like Dave Palumbo consistently cite genetics, McCarver's case was simply too ridiculous to deny being caused by excessive use of performance enhancing drugs.

Question:

Do you think had McCarver stopped all PEDs after his onstage incident 4-5 months prior to his death and immediately started a medical program to reduce his blood pressure in addition to dropping body weight, would be still be with us, or was the damage already done?

I think McCarver was an addict and probably did not stop the drugs, maybe just reduced them, but like others have said the damage was done at that point his days were numbered by then.

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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #72 on: September 04, 2019, 10:18:25 PM »
I think McCarver was an addict and probably did not stop the drugs, maybe just reduced them, but like others have said the damage was done at that point his days were numbered by then.

Must suck, eating a piece of chicken, having a heart attack, choking and dying in a matter of minutes. All at 26 years old

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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #73 on: September 04, 2019, 11:52:42 PM »
Hmmm.... a healthy young man staying in coma following surgery - usually happens for a reason...

"Delayed recovery from anesthesia or coma after anesthesia is a major anesthetic complication. The causes for delayed recovery from anesthesia are many. They are patient, surgical, anesthetic, and pharmacological factors. The pharmacological factors include the use of various anesthetic and adjuvant drugs, and their interactions with other drugs, known or unknown. This depends upon the pharmacokinetics, pharmacodynamics, context sensitive half-lives, amount of drug administered, accidental administration, co-administration with other drugs etc. The patient factors such as the extremes of age, obesity, and various co-morbidities like the cardiovascular, renal, liver or other major organ dysfunction can potentiate the effects of the drug used. Some of the rare causes are myxoedema coma, drug toxicity and Addison's disease. However the delayed recovery due to anesthetic causes, excluding hypoxia, usually lasts for a few hours to days."


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5187622/

Probably because he was so healthy, right..?

Completely and utterly missed the point, the original issue (tumor) was genetic and not related to AAS usage. Were following complications exacerbated by AAS usage? Possible, even likely - sure, but the original issue of the tumor has no link to AAS. Had he not been genetically predisposed to the tumor growth, the coma wouldn't have happened.

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Re: Josh Lenartowicz - health issues
« Reply #74 on: September 05, 2019, 12:24:57 AM »
Agreed. And while people like Dave Palumbo consistently cite genetics, McCarver's case was simply too ridiculous to deny being caused by excessive use of performance enhancing drugs.

Question:

Do you think had McCarver stopped all PEDs after his onstage incident 4-5 months prior to his death and immediately started a medical program to reduce his blood pressure in addition to dropping body weight, would be still be with us, or was the damage already done?

Yes.

The cause of death was "severe concentric left ventricular hypertrophy with coronary artery disease (severe in the LAD)".  Losing a great deal of weight will lead to left ventricular hypertrophic regression or shrinking of the left ventricle and heart. The electrocardiograph he had met minimal voltage criteria for LVH. That finding will typically lead to an echocardiogram to further explore that issue and confirm LVH.

He still had a widow maker brewing in the LAD but with LVH good Dr's also take a look at the arteries. Also you're at high risk for arrhythmia's and thrombus formation with LVH so blood thinners are prescribed and those reduce the chances for a catastrophic blockage.