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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2019, 12:43:21 PM »
Yes the shrinking cream is very important, it works almost too well so you have to ensure none gets on the muscles you’d like to remain large and obviously no masturbation after application of the cream without washing the hands thoroughly first

Makes me think if Ronnie ever mixed-up the shrinking cream and his shampoo back in his competitive days. It would explain the big gut and his overall behaviour.

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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2019, 12:49:19 PM »
something that is never factored in:

will power/mind of matter


will power example
-Cederick could be Mr O or top 3 - if he would get in shape - he lacks the will power to diet and do the cardio. someone else name a few lazy bodybuilders. many lack execution.

mind over matter
-Arnold was the best since he believed he was the best. yes it is some happy horseshit but many bodybuilders have low self worth, lack the champion mindset.

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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2019, 01:26:34 PM »
something that is never factored in:

will power/mind of matter


will power example
-Cederick could be Mr O or top 3 - if he would get in shape - he lacks the will power to diet and do the cardio. someone else name a few lazy bodybuilders. many lack execution.

mind over matter
-Arnold was the best since he believed he was the best. yes it is some happy horseshit but many bodybuilders have low self worth, lack the champion mindset.


There is truth here but you also have to factor in the iffb politics.  There are multiple times where the best bodybuilder didn't win the show, despite what everyone will tell you otherwise (case in point Yates won an Olympia with one arm).

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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2019, 01:39:02 PM »
There is truth here but you also have to factor in the iffb politics.  There are multiple times where the best bodybuilder didn't win the show, despite what everyone will tell you otherwise (case in point Yates won an Olympia with one arm).

totally agree on political - it is a beauty contest/popularity contest.  that is why I used to say Calum would have become classic Mr O or top #3.... the IFBB wants handsome men who have "it" factor be on top..

so many lazy bbers have genetics, access to diet coaches, PEDs, gyms are on every corner, can spend 30 minutes day posing but they do not actually do the work.  execution is everything.

and the low self worth/mindset of a champion. one of my old training partners - amazing bber but he didnt believe in himself, low self worth and just sort of hung up the posing trunks due to his mindset over anything else.


Jay Cutler always believed in himself and he knew he was a champion so he would train like he was the champ, eat like he was the champ and not some chump. Jay was handsome too which helped but he had the edge with the mind game.

I learned about the mind game from a professional tennis coach a few years back and it finally "sunk in"

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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2019, 02:23:42 PM »
If say genetics are actually more important than drugs.  Without the right genetics, drugs mean nothing.

Genetics: 55%
Drugs: 40%
Diet: 2.5%
Training: 2.5



Really !!!!!, Viagra & Co., contradict that  ;D

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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2019, 02:25:52 PM »
Getting in fighting shape is key. Not a starved bbers body who has useless mobility from maybe too much meat and roids. I could move well at 330 fat


Falcon is dreaming about fighting Stipe  ;D

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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2019, 02:27:30 PM »
SF1900 is Shawn Rhodes? WTF ???


Nope, his real name is Manly Beach  ;)

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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2019, 03:46:47 PM »
Drugs & Genes: 70%
Flexing in the mirror: 29%
Diet: .5%
Proper Sleep: .5%


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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2019, 03:57:09 PM »
If say genetics are actually more important than drugs.  Without the right genetics, drugs mean nothing.

Genetics: 55%
Drugs: 40%
Diet: 2.5%
Training: 2.5



Not many people outside this insular world actually care what bodybuilding is. Therefore you should spend your time investing in real estate or writing apps.

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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2019, 04:14:25 PM »
There is truth here but you also have to factor in the iffb politics.  There are multiple times where the best bodybuilder didn't win the show, despite what everyone will tell you otherwise (case in point Yates won an Olympia with one arm).

Yes multiple cases.
Or Ronnie with bad Gyno & while pregnant also with half a back & tricep
Franco with bad gyno & zero leg Condition/ separation
Dickerson with a monkey head / pointy elbows / No Arms - let alone just one / droopy pecs
Cheath With An Alien Trying to escape his pregnant belly / width of a 12yr old.

Yep politics & bad eyesight not a good combination.

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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2019, 04:14:45 PM »
Not many people outside this insular world actually care what bodybuilding is. Therefore you should spend your time investing in real estate or writing apps.

I’d rather look at muscled men.
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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #36 on: August 23, 2019, 09:09:28 AM »
Training?

Paul Dillet trained light pump sets with bad form and was probably one of the biggest bodybuilders.

'The Ultimate Warrior' from WWF used to mostly do 20 rep sets as well.

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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #37 on: August 23, 2019, 03:24:35 PM »
Training?

biceps supinator machinery build all muscles  ;D

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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #38 on: August 23, 2019, 03:27:46 PM »
Paul Dillet trained light pump sets with bad form and was probably one of the biggest bodybuilders.

'The Ultimate Warrior' from WWF used to mostly do 20 rep sets as well.

Gironda: 5X5, 8X8 ,.......... ;)

Pavel: 5 reps

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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #39 on: August 23, 2019, 03:31:52 PM »
Paul Dillet trained light pump sets with bad form and was probably one of the biggest bodybuilders.

'The Ultimate Warrior' from WWF used to mostly do 20 rep sets as well.

Because pro bodybuilding is all drugs.
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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2019, 10:18:53 AM »
Yes the shrinking cream is very important, it works almost too well so you have to ensure none gets on the muscles you’d like to remain large and obviously no masturbation after application of the cream without washing the hands thoroughly first
Fucks sake. That’s where I’ve been going wrong!  >:(

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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2019, 10:35:17 AM »
In checking, I think I might have accidentally masturbated with shrinking cream residue on my hands. Does anyone know of an enlarging cream I might use?  ;D

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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2019, 11:41:04 AM »
The more I read these posts on getbig, the more I realize that competitive bodybuilding is purely a chemical warfare.

It’s sad that bodybuilding has turned into addicts.
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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2019, 12:45:41 PM »
The more I read these posts the more I realize most on here train like fat soccer mom's.

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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2019, 02:24:45 PM »
I think it’s more helpful to break down each factor as “how close it alone can get you to your goal”, if you max it out. For instance:

Looking jacked/aesthetic on the beach to normies:
- Genetics: 100% (because a person with perfect genetics can just do this by default)
- Training: 90% (even with perfect training, you'll only get 90% of the way there if you have zero genetics, diet, or gear)
- Diet: 8%
- Steroids: 8% (might give people with below average genetics the advantage they need to hit 100%)

Looking huge in the gym for other gymrats:
- Genetics: 90%
- Steroids: 85%
- Training: 70%
- Diet: 40%

On a pro bodybuilding stage:
- Steroids: 45%
- Genetics: 40%
- Diet: 5%
- Politics: 5%
- Water retention/day of show regiment: 5%
- Training: <1%

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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #45 on: August 24, 2019, 02:34:29 PM »
The more I read these posts on getbig, the more I realize that competitive bodybuilding is purely a chemical warfare.

It’s sad that bodybuilding has turned into addicts.


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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #46 on: August 24, 2019, 04:11:51 PM »
The more I read these posts the more I realize most on here train like fat soccer mom's.

At least they're training! For a long time that wasn't the case.

If they get their diets in check they will start looking like bodybuilders!

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Re: Breakdown for bodybuilding success?
« Reply #47 on: August 24, 2019, 05:51:40 PM »
Genetics
Training
Diet
Gear